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Nimue wrote:And aint so simple as far as clothing, to make a wolf hat takes total of 4 milkweed for bow, 4 milkweed for hatchet, 4 milkweed for bowdrill, 4 milkweed for snare, 2 milkweed for arrow, and 2 milkweed for thread, thats freaking 20 milkweed to make a wolf hat
When the world gives you 20 milkweed.. Its a nice feeling lol
great image that shows how insane it is to make a hat, also i could only count 19 lol
yeah lionon i know, it isnt about starving or else, it is about enjoying the experience. i agree with a sharp stone you will never be hungry but you will keep eating berries, bananas, onion, burlock, and wild carrots, belive i know its a huge improvement, when i started playing all we had was berries and carrots.
And aint so simple as far as clothing, to make a wolf hat takes total of 4 milkweed for bow, 4 milkweed for hatchet, 4 milkweed for bowdrill, 4 milkweed for snare, 2 milkweed for arrow, and 2 milkweed for thread, thats freaking 20 milkweed to make a wolf hat...and if the player dont have a bag turns insane to do it. but i hear ya, you understood my point.
thank you all for the feedback, one other thing that i did today as a wild boy was making a huge road conecting two iron veins, hehe its nice and easy
bluediamond havent heard of subreddit... whats that? and Ruana those things would be sweet!
Who doesnt love sometimes just go out and explore? live in the wild having only to work for yourslef, finding a new village, just hunting some animals, ya know? a lone wolf life.
Well i really like to do it, but i see somethings that in my opnion could improve this experience.
one thing that could improve is more piece of clothing withoud the need of needle(or other ways to make needle). Now we can only wear mouflon and seal hides, make skirts, and put put a freaking raw turkey in head. In my opnion wolf pelt should not require needle to make, and also why not make a nice jacket from bear belt? maybe a skirt from bison?
other thing that can improve is the need of knife to cut some sorts of meat and some other unavaible as wolf and bear, man you telling me if im a wild boy and hungry as hell and shot a mouflon, build myself a fire a cant freaking eat that and will starve? i would eat it raaaaw. you know... can have alternatives with disvantajes, you get less resources and stuff like that.
In a general way what im saying i think the game has only one formula to win, if you dont settle up build kiln try to make iron tools, plant everycrap, tame sheep make compost, you end up not being able to build anything, and as u see im not asking for much, simple stuff.
My last wild boy left home in early age with just a bag, went far away and build me a bow, tree arrows, and started hunting some animals, killed lot of wolfs and at somepoint decided to make a wolf hat, i was about twenty at the time.... 25 years later i had my hat... now a 45 years old man with bowdrill, snare, hachet. and needle and thread... because i wanted to put a wolf in my head... and later killed a bear, worthless, cant eat or do nothing with it except a rug, damn i wanna eat every meat.
i know its hard, in one hand people wants technology and stuff and jason can just do so much at a time, but my feeling is that now we got cars and railroads but the primitive stuff could well be improven since will be always part of the game, what is your guys opnions? ya feel me?
mulgara wrote:I like the new compost system. There was very little incentive to diversify from carrot farming before. With so many better food sources out there, a carrot farm shouldn't be the end game. A carrot farm should be a small part of a town's food production.
The compost system is cool. It's also realistic, for those into that sort of thing, although this game in general is pretty far from realism. I also agree that a carrot farm shouldn't be the only thing that feeds an entire town. But the thing is, this game is lacking in content. Why should we only be able to farm carrots, berries and wheat? Why not add the ability to farm onions (which already exist!), or tomatoes, or potatoes, or cabbage? What about other fruit and vegetables? What about eventually adding more kinds of animals? Make it so that a farm with only one kind of veggie/fruit can help kick-start a base, but in order for a larger settlement to evolve from it, people have to start farming more stuff. Ideally, they would also have a choice on what kind of stuff to farm: one town could specialize in some types of veggies/fruit, another in others. Hopefully, trade would also evolve from that. And this philosophy could also apply in animals/meat, tools, etc.
By the way, I think decay was a good idea. I supported the idea before it was implemented, and I still support it now. But the mistake was, in my opinion, that it was implemented without the ability to repair. Granted, you'd still be making the same items when repairing, but at least you'd be going through fewer steps and consuming less resources to do it. And the initial effort you put into crafting the thing would mean something. And then we'd still have this: "Proudly using your grandfather's ax, and then passing it on to your own grandchild as the end of your life nears," and this time it would be even more meaningful, because you also have to maintain the ax to keep and pass it on.
What drew me to this game was the promise of family and civilization building. The concept of crafting something that others could later use. But lately it just feels like nothing you ever create matters. You could say that passing on your knowledge is what should matter, but communication is so limited in this game, that it's close to impossible to do so. It's disheartening, and depressing, and it's far from the heartwarming experience I remember when I first started playing.
I don't think anyone wants this game to be a carrot farming simulator, nor for it to become too easy. But changing the way stuff works all the time, forcing players to relearn the same stuff every week, and then taking everything they've accomplished away and forcing them to rebuild it from scratch is no fun either. No matter how many ways you come up with to farm carrots, the end result is the same: carrots. No matter how many times I'm forced to make a steel ax, in the end of the day, it's still a steel ax. There's no novelty or variance. There's no new things to do or discover. And in the end, nothing we do or create ever matters, because it's all gonna be wiped out, and we'll have to remake it, forever stuck in a loop of an age of stone-and-a-bit-of-steel. And that, I believe, is what makes a game stagnate, and eventually die out.
(This got far longer than I expected it to, lol.)
the bird is the word! you are right dog
i would enjoy this things added, looks nice indeed
nice! this should be added to oficial
I actually want to raise my children up until they are at least eight years old, but they tend to get really squirming at the age of four and want to run around doing stuff. You actually use up a lot of extra food by going off on your own. Think about it, no matter how hungry you are you can fill all your boxes for 1 box of food if your mother breast feeds you.
I would say it is 20, perhaps even 30 times more food efficient to have your mother feed you, than to feed yourself. Think about how many carrots you have to eat between the age of 4 and 14 to feed yourself. At the same time your mother can feed you for that entire period off of only one or two carrots.
it is more efficient that is true, but your math is wrong, if a mother have a berry diet that fills 5 squares efficiency is 5-1=4 times, carrots: 8-1= 7 times... best case scenario: pie 16-1= 15 times (of course theoretically thinking that the child would never eat food that surpasses food squares limit, this would increase breastmilk effiency) and this child will be less productive since will have to be following mom and mom will be less productive since will always have to be picking child, but I agree and when possible I always give some extra mommy milk, especially if village is low on food
edit: actually it comes down how many squares does a 8 years old have, the better efficiency rate will be the number of squares minus one.
stickyflypaper wrote:I'm sorry this happened to you. It's rough when your own child turns violent against you.
Trust your instincts. Better safe then sorry when dealing with a potential murderer.Generally i kill anyone with a weapon unless i trust them, or know what they wanna do with it.
that means that from another point of view you are the crazy one with a weapon, and how can i trust you, should i kill you?
you probably murdered more sheperds cutting mutton and hunters shooting wolfes then murderers... you murderer!
ok its true, but in my opnion the best birth control is good sense, know your surroundings, every village had or will go trough it some point, if not enough food, better one or some baby dead then all dead, poping the baby isnt a choice, but raising it is, i do belive that everyone should have the right to play, but this is part of the game, already happened to me in both ends, had to starve babies and starved myself as baby, and always when my ma tells me: sorry/ no food / die you bastard / come back in five minutes... i understand is for the greater good and i do not get frustrated
ok but this is a simulation that one minute equals one year, so one should guess that are many actions implicit on every actual action, our house is decaying bellow our feet, yes, but at a rate that we can fix it and do other stuff too, you dont go to the park just to come back home to a house in ruins, im not against the decay system but it need several changes before its playable, remebering that this is a game, and the mainly objective is to be fun, balancing realism and functionality.
i like the concept of weight and overfeeding death, overweight is nice for realism but it wouldnt stop a troll from eating all carrots or pies and becoming fat and slower, but at a certain amount causing death by heartatack or something is intersting, for instance i observed that now when a baby, the hunger bar only increaces when u get hungry, if you spend all your todler years os yours ma tits you stay temporary with low hunger bar, its a relative concept where what you exercise gets improved, in my opnion it should be implemented in other aspects, as speed, and food consumption. if your character runs a lot, it develops speed, if you wait until you have low hunger to eat, your food consumption diminish, if you eat to much, get fat and lower speed, things like that i belive would add to game.
thats why Jason´s new update will be creating a psychology center, too many baby killers and killer babies in society, nice tale!
this update is making me love apocalypse, im not much of a complainer but really turned me off, i understand as have been said that Jason is testing things but this update its a massacre of joy, yes the game should be hard but not to a point that takes the fun out of it
most comum mistake i see is eves trying to keep every single baby, one could think is out of generosity but effortless when everyone ends up dead, i saw eves destroying milkweeds, passing trough nice spots withoud blinking and runing in desert, with the newest update im seriously having problems at start, i consider myself o good player, good eve also, i can hardly imagine how is to new players face the new dificulties. honestly this decay system took joy out of the game, steel tools break as if they were butter, and iron is not a regen resource, freaking round stones are scarce of so many being use to plow... just to be broken few hits later... i got off topic but man, that really turned me off... one thing i can say is that this new update bring discourd among players... people using firebrand to make tools, sharp stones and round stones as rare as gold, and sooooo little progress in each generation... too much off topic sorry, but i was just playing as eve and went all trough steel tools, made a axe and a hoe, instead of adding to next generation i saw it broke in less then five minutes... i want to have boners when playing this game again...
yes eves suck, and the sadly truth, good players let they´re babies die more often then bad ones.
Okay so the new update is just making everythign shit. I like the farming thing but the rest is pure shit. Heres some of my input on how to fix it!
Number 1 -
Make things decay much, much slower. Let's say I have a basket, right now baskets decay every 30 minutes and then they regenerate. Baskets and tools should decay after 60 - 90 years of use. As to not ruin organization and farming every 30 minutes.
Number 2 -
Make the items repearable. You can't do anything with broken items at the moment. Not even throw them in the pit. This makes huge amounts of trash that we cant get rid of. To prevent this items should be fixeable. Maybe add a toolbox that when combined with an item fixes it.
Number 3 -
STOP BREAKING OUR TOOLS AFTER LIKE 30 USES! I WOULD HAVE TO GO TROUGH 4 AXES AND 4 SHOVELS TO CLEAR A SWAMP FROM TREES!
I dont understand why Jason keeps making the game harder and harder even though everyone on the forum is telling him that it's absolutely not what we want! We want (at least most of us) small roleplaying trinkets, new animals, signs, adams and dads, and like a million other things that dont involve making the game almost unplayable because its so hard!
I am really salty about this, I just wanna have some roleplay fun and marry my brother but instead I have to survive as an eve every fuckign game trying to get to the bell of the same dying civilazation with rotting tools and a hardened farm every fucking game!
i agree with you, decay is fun at some point, the game cant be about just that as have turned, indeed the most fun of the game is small roleplays scenes that get scarce when there is no time otherwise things stop functioning in society, new animals and signs would be awesome, how many time and nerves could one spare just by having a sign "SEEDS" over a crop, its nice when things are organized and this new decay system is turning everything into chaos.
when i am a Eve I always name myself Star, and my first born Alpha, sometimes the second beta, but it changes for betina, so i get creative at this point altough Hope almost ever comes to a girl since hope in this game is the strongest thing you can have and most needed.
yeah, decay is to freaking fast, baskets sucks now, where once made everything pretty and organized makes only mess, poberty, real state devalue and chaos!
the town with two bells? lived like seven lifes there, i build a house next to the monument and some schmuck placed a pine wall where is suposed to be a door, now the cathedral is favela like.
this all so sweet, im crying guys... what could be more romantic or realistic then divorce?
I am a chinese.
My English is awful.
This comes from Google Translate.XD
I was born. You had nothing at the time, but you did not abandon me.
You didn't give me a name.You just say fucking connection lost.I say me too!
However, we found a food-rich land.
We started from scratch and gradually grew step by step.
We have carrot, we have fires, we have rabbits.
When I was amazed after a busy moment, I was already bald and you were already bald.
I stopped,say "oh you are old"
you say "i am olllllllllld"
Then you said a lot, I only understood a few.
You said I was the best son.
But do you know? You are the best mother.
You also said that next time we want to develop better.
The legacy you gave me was only a backpack, but I was very touched and I carried it on my death.
Do you know?
After you died, there was a woman and a child.
I told her that it was all for them. And she promised me that she will continue to develop.
I introduced you to her and told her that when I die, I must be buried with you.
Before I died, there was probably one adult woman and three children who could work.
I believe they can develop very well.
I don't know if you can see what I wrote.
But I will always remember you.
：）
aaaawwwn i want a chinese baby too! so sweet, im from brazil
it would me nice to have a healing herb or so that if u use in the 15 seconds u can heal up, most of the times the person would still end up dead, but dont know, i think it would be nice adition but have my doubts since jerks could use to kill entire villages and be unpunished
this cult is so much better then the last i was! there some that belive that jason is a god, and are naming every child Jason, so i figured i end that tirany and named my girl future and my boy hero... they indeed were the future, my girl was really clever and was the only grandchildren of my mother jason to survive, and finally was giving other names as my gran daughter jessie... but unfortenly when i was on water run with the only three pouches of our humble village i was killed by a rattle snake behind a tree! but then... i respawned from future herself! giving me hope of telling such a bad tale to my daughter/mother and restoring the pouches and hope for us... just to be ignored... and died of hunger... my hopes didnt ended I tried again! choose respawn and... godamit! my new mother named me Jason, maybe Jason is a god afterall and this was a big lesson... Future if you read this im sorry! hope u finded those pouches and continued our beutfull sotry! dont listen to false profets my beutyfull daughter/awfulmother.
oh yeah... i love triping on shrooms
i cant complain i never had so much fun playing a game... it creates epic scenes, there i was a mother explaning about the worms to compost to the last girl in the village a little away from town in the wormy deposit when sunddely i turn old and had to run back so the legacy continue, I MADE IT, then this guy says: we have to keep this one alive at all costs 3 seconds later everything starts getting bright and brighter... you died APOCALIPSE! LOVED IT! Really enjoied the grind after of starting from zero too!
Nimue wrote:i tried that a bunch of times it didnt work, but nevermind im convinced that my pc is the problem, thanks
Just place the game folder on your Desktop... It's written there on the second paragraph of the first question.
indeed already tried that a bunch of times in two different pcs
edit: tried vladesch's solution and it worked finally
i tried that a bunch of times it didnt work, but nevermind im convinced that my pc is the problem, thanks
