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I like this idea better. Also a progressive challenge. But players with <10 lives should also have a cap, but with their lives hidden. Otherwise, i can just buy a new account and slash die until I get into an Eve camp. Otherwise, you can just game the system for 10 hours.

Keep the newcomers ignorant of the number of lives, give them plenty, but cap them. Ignorance is bliss.

Bump. You should upload the image again, using the IMG tag. You'll have to upload it externally first, I guess

I wouldn't put it during lives. Perhaps during very early baby years, maybe, but it would still take out of the gameplay. Maybe after the death screen? Could also be triggered by the interactions between a player and an item, so you could get relevant ideas from those who interact with some particular subparts of the game - say, for example, hunting.

Great fix, Jason.
However, wanted to highlight that some players experience life token losses during disconnects:

https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6896

You may want to look into that. Fantastic work anyway. Your thoughts on cartography, since it was proposed several times on the suggestion subreddit?

I think there are two explanations as to the lack of wars in the game, Jason. My background is in political science and in international security, so maybe I can give a bit of hindsight on that.

1. Lack of polities and political organization

First, let's take a look at the lack of war due to the lack of political societies. Three main figures in political theory - Hobbes, Rousseau, and Locke- have extensively discussed the origins of man to discuss human nature. I'll discuss each separately, and then try to say where OHOL currently stands.

Hobbes saw the life of the earliest people as ”nasty, brutish and short”, plagued by violence. This violence is due to the fact that in his world, men are inherently evil and greedy. In Hobbes' world, the state of nature - that is, the state in which individuals lived before government - was a state of war. To escape this state of war, eventually, the people chose a Leviathan - someone capable of protecting the peace of individuals through a social contract. A Hobbesian ruler would be omnipotent and rule with an iron fist: to escape this neverending cycle of violence, the people had given power to a ruler through a social contract, a set of laws to abide to. Hobbes wrote during the English Civil War, a period one could draw a parallel to the state of nature where war between all reigned. As a result, Hobbes believed that rebelling against a ruler would draw people back to a state of nature - and he believed that was the worst thing that could be done by men.

I can discuss all this at length in a separate post if some are interested because I have read those books over four years ago, but all I can tell is that OHOL is nowhere close to Hobbes' vision. We are not in a perpetual state of war because we all produce more together than alone, and perhaps because there is good between OHOL players. Ultimately, those who wish to grief are not unlike the thiefs and murderers of the earliest of times - but in OHOL, people are in my view held much more accountable and the communities live together because of how resources are distributed. The few with knives deliver justice to those who are guilty of crimes. Most people find it easy to just live their lives outside of drama.

OHOL is perhaps closer to Rousseau's view was that individuals are inherently good. While in the state of nature, according to him, there is no state of war - people live free from the oppression of society. It is private property, according to him, that tips the balance towards an undesirable state: when a man decided to dig a peremeter in the earth and declare that what was inside was his. This, in his view, bred inequality and most of the problems that derived from there, including tyranny. A will of all, based on a common good, is what drives society forward - and governments only execute this will.

Locke's view is quite the opposite of Rousseau and Hobbes. Individuals who decide to enter into society give up their natural freedom to assure the protection of their lives, liberties, and estates, all of which Locke considers property. Property is seen as a positive factor per Locke, and ultimately people consent to a ruler and can revoke consent - even rebellion is tolerated if rulers are particularly unjust and cruel. Clearly, OHOL has not reached the levels of polity yet - wearing a crown does not make one a ruler yet.

In a way, Jason, this game has not been replicating the buildup of society because murders, in my opinion, got nerfed. As a result, there is no reason to even have a ruler - someone who controls all or most of the weapons. There are no lords as a result. Politics is also currently irrelevant right now - beyond RP, the hunger chime pushes people to constantly move to keep that yum chain up and the hope of a lasting civilization running is detrimental to talking in game. I think those mechanics explain why it's hard for people to coordinate and reach a system of rule-making.

2. Lack of culture, tradition and symbolism

Let's move on to what I think could be an issue towards the consolidation of societes - there needs to be a sense of belonging.

Jason, you focus a lot on the place of the individual on the equation. Why do individuals fight in wars for their country, tribe? According to  political scientist Benedict Anderson, people fight and die because nations are imagined communities - they do not exist in reality, they are a social construct.

In my view, the lack of traditions is ultimately the reason why no factionalism has emerged in this game.

Social psychologist Robert Cialdini, for example, highlights that one of the key principles of human nature is to desire what is rare. We desire what is rare and get attached to what is rare because it is scarce, and because the loss of a scarce item would entail a loss of some degree of freedoms and privileges. As a result, we attach fictional value to items that are scarce.

Give different families unique art or items they can craft, whether it's statues or flags of sorts, and you'll help complete that missing part of the puzzle. Families will want to seize what isn't their if the items have a symbolic value, and not just a practical one. All the iron in the map could not equate to the sacred words of an eve transcribed in a book or to the statue built in the center of the town. I want to be proud to carry on a tradition that some before me have started or that I may even start myself.

If you put work in these two directions, Jason, I'm sure your game will get even more multifaceted and complete. I hope it gives you some elements that fit within your vision.

It would also be cool to see some color on those titles. Makes it much more readable, and people will go back your work more often.

Anyway, good work, keep this up!

I'm quite a visual person, so crunching numbers into graphs is nice, generally.
Keep sharing the data!

If you chat with thirdplanet, do not hesitate to reach out as well.

ALSO if anyone wants to keep making graphs, you can access the data on Google Sheet format here, which has some calculations in there too. I find the violent death rate at 19.62%, though.

The average murder rate over this period is: 3.93%

As you can see, despite the recent hike, we are still experiencing a declining pattern of murder.

EDIT: spreadsheet online here.

Hi Mom!

I distinctly remembered that your first words were about murder. I distinctly remember that you named me Victory, because you had triumphed over the killer. I carried that name proudly until I finally collapsed.

As a young boy, I had the freedom to explore, and when I asked where to hunt rabbits, you simply said "w". And you were right. It was West that the rabbits prospered. Sadly, and I didn't know it at the time, these would be the last words that we would exchange. I always wondered what had happened to you.

The far West was a resourceful, plentiful world. Another rabbit Hunter had lived there, and had even planted two berry bushes which he watered from the nearby bonds with a bowl. I stumbled upon his body and resumed the task. During my last trip to Berryheaven, I had produced a total of three backpacks for the village, a true legacy for the future.

I died West as I ventured out to seek more fur for the village, close to the berry farm. I am certain that someone must have found my backpack and my rabbits, and I am proud to have served you and the village.

You were greatly missed, and more than a few wondered where you were when I asked about your whereabouts. I am glad my small contribution helped to revive the village.

Victory.

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