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#2 Re: Main Forum » A Mod thing for ohol Please Put ideas here pls so i can add them to ps » 2018-09-07 15:06:50

More mods will split the community. We are already not a lot. Please, try to melt mod together. You can add your stuff on THOL.

#3 Re: Main Forum » Why do you kill twins? » 2018-09-07 14:11:07

Yeah, if you welcome a new baby as a griefer, he will not want to help you. And maybe became this griefer.

Give your own clothes to babies and they will love you.

#4 Re: Main Forum » Little things that need fixing. » 2018-09-07 13:34:30

Will be great to be able to repair broken stuff. In real life, in those time, you don't buy or craft a new tool/cart if the old is broken. You try first to repair your old tool/cart.

Will be great to do thing with horse hair.

Mammoth in ice land for making huge fur to clothes everyone. Need a trap to kill him like in stone age. And have a ton of meat. Using ivory to make stuff.

#5 Re: Main Forum » Why do you kill twins? » 2018-09-07 13:30:14

i was twin also to teach someone how to do stuff today. Our mother feed us kindly. We have help until our old age making pie and stuff.

#6 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 22:15:34

Yeah... and i think than by buying the game in the first place you accepted the game like it is. Else you will not play it.

Jason have already change the rules before you even buy the game. You don't argue about it because you are not aware of how the rules was before you take interest of the game.

So now, you have the game. If Jason decide to change rules, you should just accept it. There is rules on the game than you don't like, who are on the game since you have it, but you deal with it anyway. Like we deal actually with this painfull baby suicide.

#7 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 21:36:30

MultiLife wrote:

I have no idea what you mean with stories, you can make a story with only two players? Each life is a story and all you need is a player or two?

I talk about what is write on the background of the game :

This game is about playing one small part in a much larger story


I would love also than someone explain me why a baby as the same endurance than an adult when it's about running. They should run slower and be tired faster. Then we will able to catch them.

#8 Re: Main Forum » Oil in the arctic » 2018-09-06 20:15:07

Need hot geyser in ice area. smile

#9 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 20:09:19

If it was a minority who suicide, i will not waste my time in this thread. But it's not. It's a majority.

A place is not doomed for three days, you can make a story during three days. The server don't reset everyday. Your argument is invalid. The goal is to make big stories with a bunch of short stories. Even if the eve is dead, sometimes there is traveller who pass nearby and want to participate to the life of the village. (They have no family name, so baby will have no family name, i don't understand why. You should be able to choose a family name if you are alone. I've make baby one time, and they survive a lot but they didn't have a family name.)

You have a short window for making babies, if all those babies run away. It's less motivated. It's say than if you want to play and be sure to do some stories, you need to play in big city (Because mostly jumping baby try to respawn in big city). This is really boring.

#10 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 19:06:10

The problem is than 80% of the babies go to suicide in every gameplay configuration. At this state, if nobody want to play or eat chinese food, Jason can shutdown the server. There is not point to let this game running. I don't really understand suicide baby because it happens a lot and in every situation. It seem than people don't understand the meaning of "not trying to ruin the fun of the majority".

Anyway, it was just suggestion. Nobody says it's the best idea. There is maybe others ways to manage those suicide. It's not an easy problem. Some game have successfully manage this.

#11 Re: Main Forum » I think the lineage ban hurts branched towns. » 2018-09-06 16:51:44

VioletLily wrote:

I noticed that there weren't many people around today, at least in the lives I played. I saw 2 towns die out. There just weren't enough babies.

There was a tri-city I played in quite often. While there were always people there, there weren't nearly as many as you would expect from such a large place. No more than about 5-10 at a time. I've seen eve camps with more people. I thought that city was done for as well, but saw a newborn suicide-run past me seconds before I died of old age, so there was a girl somewhere.  She was probably the only one though. I hope the line continued.

I didn't see more than 100 people on server1 since a while. Mostly about an average of 50 this week. (Since the server is online again) One hour One life is a small community. We are not more than 100 max playing the game at the same time.

#12 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 16:26:20

This information don't give you an idea of the mind of the community. You can't learn how is a community if you don't live in it. Every life is about one hour.. so you have never the same person in the community. Yes, you can know what it was build. But you can't know who is leaving here.

The thing who is sure is than if baby suicide, there will be no civilisation at all. If people don't play, there is no game. (i've not show one example of playing the game. You just didn't understand what i've write. Or didn't even try to understand it. I'd never say than you need to make a big city or a little village. I've say than you need to play the game. Not killing the fun of everyone by going suicide by selfishness. It's a social game, if you can't handle this, just wait to be able to eat by yourself and go in the wild. No need to suicide yourself.)

The problem is than there is not only one suicidal baby... for each eve, the average of suicidal baby is about 4 on 6. (If she had 6 baby during her mum stage) You just need to play a random streaming video to see it. Even on the main page of this game, you see in the last video edited than the streamer had several running baby. Not even one have try to play... they all have run to the wild. What do you want to do when you see this ? You can't make an infinite number of babies, there will be a time where you will not be able to do babies. And when this time will happens, it will be the end of your community.
So if everyone think like you. Then, there will be no game. Because nobody try to play. They just suicide to see if the grass is more green elsewhere. This is really stupid and this need a penalty.


Anyway, SomeRandomPerson have goodly resume the problem. Ruining the fun of the other is not fun. (And i don't talk about griefing, i talk about not even try to play)

And we are talking about a baby who can't even feed himself. Don't talk me about someone who say to him what to do because he have no job yet. (And even when he will became a child, i never see people forcing other to do something. Everytime, player choose themselve what they want to do in the community. Some propose job regarding the situation. But nobody force nobody to do stuff. People are free to play the game as they prefer. Suicide is not playing the game.)

#13 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 15:36:28

You don't need to play one hour. Half hour is already a lot, you can reach adult state in half hour. and make a lot of stuff. We will not complain those who don't want to play 30 minutes in the game. It's a wrong argument. Nobody force anyone to login. (We talk about baby suicide, not adult suicide even if Eve suicide is a pain in the ass.)

A baby who login want to play. Else, why he is login? The game is about surviving in community. Passing the fire to the next generation. You can also live alone if you want. I don't see why people will not want to play with us. As a baby, you don't even have a fucking idea about how the people in your community are. You was just born 30 sc ago. You don't even have see the village and the area around. How you could know something about your community ? How you could know if you like or don't like the place where you was born 30 sc ago ?

#14 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 14:37:12

Some people do ALT+F4 for suicide themselves..

Great idea to name the baby during pregnancy.

#15 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 12:46:39

And people who want to join will have a 45 seconds cooldown. It avoid suicide for respawn. Because they know than they will need to wait 45 secondes if they die.

#16 Re: Main Forum » China’s social credit system » 2018-09-06 11:45:45

I always love when someone come back with a snake, boar or bear injury. It's so cute to see them in this state. To listen what they say. To see how they react to this unexpected situation. And it create some action in a quiet village.

Jason say than a bigger resolution will ask more for the server to answer. He say than the resolution is like this for a reason. But mobile have a function to unzoom the map. So, i think the server could manage this.

#17 Re: Main Forum » How to get Town Spawns as Eves. » 2018-09-06 11:38:49

And making them speak with symbol or mirror letter or color.
Make them next live for one hour more harder.

If people don't feed them because they speak weird, then, those baby will stop suicide (because they want to play, not being put in a trash everytime)

#18 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 11:34:56

Yeah... always play. You don't know. Your little settle could help someone who pass by it later. An adobe forge ready to work is really helpfull when you travel and you pass by it. And also because it seem than you can born as Eve on a abandonned village.

We really need to find a way to teach people to not suicide. A penalizing algorithm is a good idea. (But do not penalize a baby if the mother is in the wild and continue to run without going picking up her unexpected baby).

#19 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 11:25:23

Yes. It's not an easy task to manage this problem. ^^
If we success to know when there is a suicide, then, we will be able to deal with it.

I've also think about making suicide babies saying weird words like symbol when they speak.

If a baby go for child, he will have a name, you can curse him if he go suicide. It's a start.
You can't give a name to a baby who go suicide, but a child will have already a name.

#20 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 11:17:05

Yes. It's a good idea to manage this. For penalty idea, i don't have idea how to make it. The only way is see is to make life harder for the next hour. Or disable bubbles for suicide babies who have suicide two or three times.

#21 Re: Main Forum » idea: granola pouch » 2018-09-06 11:07:59

Just allow to put popcorn in water pouch then.

#22 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 11:01:05

Yes, it's not easy to find a solution. There is a bunch of games who success to avoid this lack of investment. But i have no game idea in mind. I just know than i've seen, in the past, system working really well for this cancer.

Yes, rewarding long life could be a good idea. But there is some problem with this as you describe it.

#23 Re: Main Forum » Is this rude? » 2018-09-06 10:40:56

Ask for help. There is always someone who want to teach in this game. Beginners are welcome if they want to learn something.

For the rest, there is this link who help for ressources making. The wiki is not complete : https://onetech.info/ (Spoiler alert, if you don't want to be spoiled on how to do thing, don't click on it, because there is everything inside this link)
It help me a lot.

#24 Re: Main Forum » Would you suicide as the last girl? » 2018-09-06 10:30:53

Suicide need to have a penalty (like making the next lives for one hour more harder) because suicide can ruin a village. I've see starting village where 4 or 5 baby go directly to suicide.

But it's hard to see the difference between a suicide and a natural death (Starvation, Killed by an animal, dead when trying to follow mum, ....).

The main goal of suicide is to try to respawn elsewhere. It go against the game. It make other people losing motivation. Every people should play there life entirely. Even if they are born in the wrong place. Shit happens. In real life, you don't choose where you are born. You deal with it. You still can kill yourself but you don't do it because you don't know what there will be after this.

I don't ask for something avoiding people to logging. But for something forcing them to invest a little bit in the life they have until there is a youngest woman who can take care of the next.

I am protesting stupid, overused, and uncreative names.  I am sick to death of the dumb name, and I hate being named it.  So, if you name me Hope, I will kill myself.  If people realize that naming their kid Hope is going to lead to their suicide, they might reconsider using it and instead find some creativity in their heads.

Suicide yourself for a name is dumb. It's like neolithic way of life... those word like "hope" don't even exist in this period of time. If you suicide for this, it's really stupid. Play the game dammit !

#25 Re: Main Forum » China’s social credit system » 2018-09-06 10:16:21

We have a curse function, it's enough. People should start to play and stop killing every male. A griefer is easy to manage. Sometimes, a city have a furnace and iron, they don't even try to make a knife or an arrow. They just crying because the griefer have the only bow or knife of the village.

It will be great if Jason could fix the issue where you can't hit a guy who is moving. (This is the real problem here)

Chainkill is a natural reaction. I have no problem with it. People sometimes don't search answer and make action by themself. Sometimes, they have wrong but it's the way the game is. I don't have anything against personal action (good or bad), it's part of the game.

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