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Sorry, but I have no empathy for you. You're crying about your right to suicide. You're crying that it takes time to suicide now, rather than having an instant suicide option. You're claiming that you're doing it because you want to be helpful to players that need you as a baby.

And now we see that you want to cause grief if you don't have your way. I have no empathy. You're throwing a tantrum and crying and threatening if you don't have your way. Yet this is the response of Jason after he's been BEGGED for a solution to all the baby suicides, the problem YOU have caused.

I have been the Eve that had one, boy, child her entire life, along with an endless string of suicide babies. I have been the lineage's last fertile girl, and watched my lineage die because every baby suicided.

I wasn't the only one. It was a problem for both large towns and small, and something needed to be done. People BEGGED Jason for an answer. This is what we got.

Baby suiciders was a HUGE problem, no matter how you think of yourselves. It literally did turn into an 'us and them' scenario, since 'they' were literally killing lineages and preventing Eve camps from getting the players they needed to survive. When the problem blew up as big as it did on these forums, there's going to be a period of unsettlement while people find a new equilibrium.

You don't like the answer. That's fair, because we didn't like having endless strings of suicide babies. At the very least, this gives me a chance to pick up my daughter and give her a name when I'm 35+ and childless, so I can curse the little miscreant that ended my lineage.

Objection! Leading question! This is also an invalid argument for multiple reasons.

1: I am a twitch streamer. That doesn't mean I get paid.

2: Even if I did get paid, that still wouldn't make me an OHOL professional.

3: The vast majority of twitch streamers have other jobs that support them. They don't stream for a living. The only professional streamers are the rare ones that stream full time and are supported by the stream. They may be supplemented by another job, but their primary profession is twitch streamer.

To my knowledge, there are no professional streamers that stream OHOL, let alone regularly. Therefore, the only OHOL professional would be Jason himself.

"Are you a twitch streamer" is therefore a leading question, leading to an invalid argument.

Sometimes I really have to wonder what some of my babies think when they pop out on me right in the middle of me working the forge. It forces me to pause my forging, feed them once, and find a place for them out of the way of my working, and then get back to the important and time sensitive process of turning iron into steel, or steel into a tool, before the forge goes out. Then I retire from the forge to take care of the new kid... Assuming they haven't suicided or been kidnapped.

But in any case, I think it's a good idea to have something like a baby sling. IMO it should be in the front, though, and take the clothing slot. No apron while wearing a baby, but that person out hunting rabbits doesn't have to leave their backpack full of traps or food or whatever they're carrying for their job behind so they can wear a baby sling in case they have a kid

Could use a double gate system to keep animals from getting out. Something like...

F=Fence
O=Open Space
G=Gate
B=Berry bush

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Enter the first gate and close it behind you. Then open the second gate and enter the pen. Livestock can't get into the gate lock because of the berry bush there. Same deal on the way out. As long as you close the gate behind you, livestock can't escape the pen.

Heck... Even do it without the bush, and you can have an area to shear a sheep and release it to be butchered outside the pen. Just stand inside the gate area, wait for the sheep to come to you, shear it, release it to the butcher, and wait for the next one. Less clutter inside the pen, and you don't need to make such a large pen to allow for sheep bones clutter until it decomposes.

Could also make a second pen attached to the first with such a gate. Shear the sheep, let it into the second pen to be slaughtered at the baker's leisure. Could attach the bakery to the second pen, too, and this would obviate the need for the Shepherd to have a knife. The baker just butchers the sheep themselves and uses the meat immediately. Then you don't need to make a pile of boxes for the meat either, or scatter it across an entire biome. Just leave the meat right where you slaughtered the sheep, or leave the sheep alive until you need the meat.

Oh, yes. SUCH fun having someone be born to you in Donkey Town. Someone that you know is a griefer or murderer, because otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Definitely must have hit a streamer or someone in view of a streamer. That's the only way I can think of that you'd overshoot the mark of 8 curse tokens by THAT much. Sheesh.

There's an area Southwest of Goose Town on Server 1 that has ice holes gone out of control. That would be probably the best place to get an example.

Also, would like to note that Goose Town has been around and active for a VERY long time. I don't think I've had a night of play over the last week that I didn't end up there, and it's only been in the last couple of days that the ice holes issue has been noticeably out of control. It might be something that only comes up if an area with ice holes is kept active for an extended period of time, or something that triggers with player interaction... Like the penguins running directly away from a player and creating a new ice hole if the direction the penguin ran doesn't put them back at their original hole? Just some guesswork here, I don't know how exhaustively you've been testing the issue

Can we please keep the quest discussion in the quests topic? It doesn't need to still over into this discussion as well.

Isn't that the point? Start an eve camp, and hopefully build something that will last for generations on end? You only live for one hour, so you really have to depend on your descendants to carry on the work you do. If you're only playing alone and you die for any reason other than old age, you're most likely never going to find that camp again. Yes, playing on another server, you don't have to worry about the hassle of dealing with babies getting in the way of what you wanted to do... but if you want to work uninterrupted, you could always live out a life as a man. I'm sorry, but playing on an empty server, unless you're doing it with a group other people, just isn't a viable alternative. There's just too much risk of dying to starvation and losing your camp forever.

To call it ego, or selfishness, to want to build something and have your descendants carry on your legacy... didn't you just describe the human condition? Isn't that what we all want in life? Is it really selfish to want to have a family, build a settlement together, and see it thrive before you pass on? And OneLife allows for an opportunity we don't have in real life: some hours later, we can try to come back and see how our family and settlement has grown! We can actually see the legacy we left... if we're lucky and it hasn't died out.

And this is what makes baby suiciders so painful. It's lineage breaking. So many times, your family dies out simply because people don't want to play the life they're given. They don't want to build a new town. They don't want to learn. They don't want challenge. They just want to live in a big town and do the same things they've always done; make pies, take care of livestock, or tend to the berry farm or stew farm in a village that's already well built and established.

And for some of that, it's not actually their fault. For a couple of lives a couple of nights ago, I spent my time in a small outpost a little ways from Goose Town. We had a forge, a sheep pen, and a small stew farm. I convinced my mom to follow me there one life I was born in Goose Town. She didn't end up staying there, but there was another baby that was abandoned down there that I rescued. She didn't know how to make stew, or tend sheep, or work the forge. So I started teaching her, as well as I could with our limited supplies... and as I worked, and built, our supplies became less limited. Imagine that.

Then, I died of old age, and was born to her. By then, there were a few other brothers and sisters running around. I think most of them made their way over to Goose Town. I went back to work, trying to make the place self-sufficient, and actually managed to get the carrot/berry + livestock compost cycle started, since at that point we were still living off what we could find in natural fertile dirt deposits. Mother died of starvation while I was trying to keep the berry farm going and working on getting compost... which was unfortunate because we DID have stew.

My sister did survive our little berry famine, though, and for most of my life I taught her. I taught her how to make compost. I taught her how to make stew. I taught her how to make pie crusts... apparently she already knew how to turn them into pies and cook them, but nobody had ever shown her how the pie crusts are made. I told her the basics of how to keep and care for sheep, with and without a mouflon. And then I was considering teaching her how to work the forge, but by then my hour was almost up. And she was happy to learn all these things that apparently nobody else had taken the time to show her. I'm sad that I didn't have the time to gather a bunch of wool and teach her how to make clothes, too. She had so much still to learn, and was happy to learn it, but was suffering for want of a teacher.

And sorry to have taken a long meandering track to get to my point here - My point is that for players like these two that I taught... these two that were newer players that didn't know how to make compost, didn't know how to take care of livestock, didn't know how to make stew, didn't know how to make pie, and probably didn't know how to build or use a forge... these players would not have been a help to an Eve camp. An Eve camp doesn't have the resources like I had in my little outpost to teach them. It doesn't have an established sheep pen. It doesn't have tools. It doesn't have a farm. It only has what the Eve has managed to make around taking care of her kids, and whatever those kids have the skills and knowledge to make. These two NEEDED the time spent in an area with an established town, established resources, and an experienced teacher, to teach them what they'll need to know in future lives. If these two showed up in an Eve camp now... well, even with my instruction, it's still not enough. They would still not be a help to the camp. They need to learn how to build new farms. They need to learn how to build basic tools. They'd be a drain on the camp's food and resources, unless someone took the time to teach them something they could do to help. And for these two... I think they would do it. They would take whatever instruction they're given, and do the work that's needed. But in an Eve camp... who has the time to teach? Who would be able to give them that instruction?

For baby suiciders that run from eves and eve camps, it's not really their fault that they don't know what they need to do to help an eve camp, and it's not their fault that nobody in an eve camp has the time to teach them what they need to do to help. And it's better for them to spend some time in a large town or an outpost of a large town, in the hopes of finding a willing instructor that has the time and patience to teach them new things (even as rare as that seems to be).

I'm not going to even talk about baby suiciders that run from dying or recovering towns or lineages. It pisses me off too much, I've had way too many lives, even eve lives where I started in a town, where most or all my kids have suicided and my line died off. It's why, even though I've had a good number of eve lifes in towns, you've never seen any Errington lines running around. The lineage has always died in its infancy due to baby suiciders.

I was born there yesterday, twice. The second time the Willow Family that was there was self-destructing, with a family of griefers sacrificing children to appease the goose. I ran away from that nonsense, and got caught up in the griefer hunt.

When all was said and done, it was me and one other girl that hid herself away that were able to repopulate. I only had one daughter, because suicide babies. I hope my daughter had better luck with kids.

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