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#1 Re: Main Forum » VirtualBox image with Ubuntu and OHOL test server pre-installed » 2018-11-21 20:54:43
When I did the tab it just says server/ do I still add the OneLifeServer after that?
Ah, yes. Each time you hit tab, it will only autocomplete the next "section" (up until the slash). So if you're at "server/" you'd type "O" or "On", then hit tab again to have it autocomplete to "server/OneHourOneLife". You can also type it out manually, but this limits typos.
#2 Re: Main Forum » VirtualBox image with Ubuntu and OHOL test server pre-installed » 2018-11-20 18:08:16
When I type in CD OneLife/server./OneLifeServer it says no such file or directory. What am I doing wrong?
There's no period in "server", I believe.
Also, if you type a few letters in the name of a path, then hit tab (like you type "cd OneLife/s" then hit tab) the terminal will try to complete that command with options from the folder. (So the terminal would complete your command to "cd OneLife/server/" after you hit tab. If it gives you something else starting with s, hit tab until you see the correct option.) This can be a good way to make sure you have the directory name(s) spelled correctly.
#3 Re: Main Forum » Why is it so difficult for you? » 2018-11-19 20:38:14
Blanket thanks to everyone who responded. This definitely clears up why and when to leave berries on bushes. I'd started making a point of exhausting domestic bushes with a single berry left, if there were a lot of full bushes around, but I wasn't 100% sure I was doing the right thing.
#4 Re: Main Forum » Why is it so difficult for you? » 2018-11-19 19:25:33
Sorry if this is off-topic, but on the subject of noobs and berries, when should we take all the berries off a single bush? I believe I've heard that domestic bushes should be exhausted and one last berry kept on wild bushes to keep the timer from being reset to 30 mins, but I'm not 100% sure on that...
#5 Re: Main Forum » Baby Crisis » 2018-11-19 18:23:42
gabal wrote:It makes you appreciate it when you get a competent mom who is caring for you.
I have been searching for videos of people playing for the first time and they feel genuine joy and awe when they get born to a player who knows how to play and takes good care of you.
Took the words right out of my keyboard! I remember being new and feeling frustrated over being abandoned over and over. Yes, it can be frustrating. Especially if you are playing with the mentality of "This is a game therefore I must feel complete JOY during my entire play experience."
This game is more of a society and civilization simulator and you are supposed to feel a mixture of all of the emotions while playing it. The good lives make the bad ones feel so worth it.
When I finally found my first mother who kept me, raised me, took the time to actually teach me a few things.. Oh boy was I super excited! After cycling through several moms who couldn't keep me, it felt really special to finally be kept and cared for.
So far OHOL is a pretty damn spot on society and civilization simulator when you really really think about it. Not many babies (or mothers) survived back in the caveman days and early civilization.
That's just my two potatoes.
As a Steam player who was initially totally overwhelmed, I'm coming along to this point of view.
It was definitely initially frustrating to be abandoned over and over, or to have to abandon babies over and over. But as I've played, I've learned why mothers abandon me, and I've done the things mentioned upthread to show that I am a competent player, which has definitely upped my chances of being picked for survival. I've done this to babies as well -- I've fed babies I was going to abandon, who follow me to food sources and make sure I can pick them up as necessary and do the other things I need from a baby. So I definitely agree that some of this can be mitigated with some experience. And even when I do starve to death, I know enough now to realize that it likely wouldn't have worked out anyway. Better to die at 0 or 1 then waste time and resources dying at 5.
And on the subject of appreciation -- oh man. Last night I got the best mother. I was the only daughter to the Queen of a dying village (http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=1750286). She showed me around, outfitted me well, involved me in family RP, and was just generally amazing. I felt genuine appreciation to this person for spending so much time making sure I was doing well, so I focused on being the best, most dutiful daughter I could. It ended up being an amazingly bittersweet playthrough and one of my favorites. I'm sure I would not have appreciated it as much if I hadn't spend so many lives clawing for survival as the youngest son of 5 or whatever.
Which is to say, this game is very odd. It is definitely more of a civilization simulator than a traditional game, so playing it with the mentality of immediate and consistent reward is a road to frustration. As I've focused more on playing out whatever situation I've been given, regardless of what that may be, I've definitely found the game more rewarding. It just takes some patience and humility, which isn't generally what one expects to bring to a computer game.
#6 Re: Main Forum » Bear Town - Toogood, Sorrows, Zee Families [UPDATE] » 2018-11-17 03:30:01
I wasn't part of this, but thanks for sharing the story of your town! What a wild ride. 
#7 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 21:06:31
For anyone else who might be reading this: You can do nearly the same thing without having to set up a private server just by playing on one of the official-but-unpopulated servers. Most of the time you'll be free to play as Eve without anyone else spawning in. Go to http://onehouronelife.com/reflector/ser … ion=report and pick a server with a small population, then manually enter that in the Settings menu, checking the "Use Custom Server" checkbox.
This is a great suggestion! Depending on the popularity of the server chosen, I imagine it could be a good middle ground between baby explosion and being the only person alive on a private server. This might be best for my current needs, tbh.
#8 Re: Main Forum » 3 Suggestions and my experience with the game so far » 2018-11-16 20:54:05
The key to becoming good at Eve lives is knowing the exact things you need each step of the way.
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Thanks for the list -- that's really helpful! I find I spend most of my time as an Eve, because of the baby boom making excess kids an issue, so my focus is on trying to make stable Eve camps. And I'm definitely going to keep at it. This is a really fun game, despite the steep learning curve. I generally dislike multiplayer games, but this one makes it genuinely worthwhile.
#9 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 20:42:27
Most of us don't resent the influx. We WANT new players. We just want them to pay attention in the tutorial and apply a little critical thinking instead of just eating the berries and planting eight million bushes.
That's good to hear! And like I said, this is probably somewhat of a personal problem. But is is why I've been looking at tutorials and practicing -- it's genuinely more fun when you have at least some sense of what needs to happen and why. I know I have a better time when my babies know not to run around like crazy, for example.
#10 Re: Main Forum » 3 Suggestions and my experience with the game so far » 2018-11-16 20:16:16
Fewer babies and more Eves is exactly what the game needs right now - specifically, more Eves who have fewer babies and therefore have more of a chance to explore and discover and learn and practice.
As a new player, this is exactly my issue and why I had to set up a private server to practice on my own time. I have had multiple lives where I literally spawned WITH a baby. And all of my Eves have gotten killed by frantically trying to take care of kids, even when I'm disposing 2/3 of them. I hate doing that, since I know how much it sucks on the other end. It also often doesn't work, since the babies will return if I don't take them far enough away (doing so risks me starving or the camp starving while I'm gone) and other kids will feed them, even though I've said not to. It's hard psychologically to abandon a baby, even on a game.
Granted, I've only been playing since the Steam release, but the farthest I've been able to get as an Eve is making the adobe kiln, and that was with all the kids doing their job and fetching me things. We ended up dying anyway because once my daughter grew up, the influx of babies was too much to handle. Even on a private server, the game is designed so you can't advance easily without other player hepl, so I can only practice so much.
This is a really frustrating experience. It makes me feel like I am continually failing, since I literally cannot explore and learn before my feet are held to the fires of taking care of others. Of the few towns I've been born into, in all but one I spent my life fetching dirt and trying to stave off berry collapse.
I really, really like this game, but I'm already feeling like I'm hitting a plateau where I can't amass enough actual game experience to progress past the stoneage. Having to use mods or set up a private server to partially overcome difficulties is not a great path forward. And I know some of this will get better with time, as players themselves get better, but that doesn't take care of the frustration of that steep learning curve or make it easier for the next wave of noobs.
Just my two cents.
#11 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 19:52:36
Oh man. Another tangent, but if you were playing last night, I might have been the one dumping you. I kept getting 4 babies at once and panicking. If so, sorry -- I'm just also new and have a hard enough time supporting myself!
#12 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 19:50:39
I can only speak for myself, but I use the private server to practice surviving and crafting on my own, so I can figure out basic survival and camp making without being inundated with babies or messing up the plans of more experienced players.
Most Eve camps don't make it far enough to practice the more advanced skills anyway. On a private server, I just keep respawning in the same location every time I die, so it's easy to pick back up.
Also, TBH, reading the comments on this forum about how many people resent the influx of noobs makes me hesitant to try too much on the real game, or do much besides what I already know. Practicing by myself means nobody is mad when I make a mistake or waste something or whatever. But that's me. I have a real life mother who resents me, so I don't need that in my free time!
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#13 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 18:35:40
No problem! Glad I could help. 
#14 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 18:07:54
Also, it's possible you need to type 'sudo make'. It looks like the makefile can't make the new files, which might be a permissions issue.
#15 Re: Main Forum » Help Setting up a Custom Server » 2018-11-16 18:04:59
I used this guide: http://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=498
It includes virtualbox images with scripts to set up the server. It worked for me for a day and now I'm having some issues with the server crashing. Probably need to update. But it did work!
I don't know if this is relevant, but it doesn't save the server's state from run to run. Not sure if any test servers do, but it might be relevant...
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