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Been there, done that.
People come and grief constructions like those. I appreciate the effort, though. Good job
Dear Morti,
Thank you for your heart-warming answer. I am happy to hear that you are doing well.
Living in nature, especially with all those restrictions since 2020, sounds like an ingenious way to enjoy life.
I hope that you stay well!
Yours sincerely,
Kilian
Dear Morti:
I wanted to reach to you to hear how you are doing.
Since I did any other less-public attempt to reach out to you were not successful, I hope to get a hold of you this way.
You can contact me on Discord, in case you feel more comfortable doing so.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian
To be fair, PHEX's font allows to see a difference between the lower case "L" and the upper case "I". The "I" is bigger than the "L".
Because I know that trick, noticing that wasn't as difficult. But otherwise, yes, it might be difficult to spot the slight difference in the length of the vertical line in the two letters.
My "favourite" names are (f... female; m... male):
[f] ABCDE
[m] THE
[f,m] CHILD
[f] CHILDNOTNAMED
[m] SON
[m] BOY
[m] MAN
[f] GIRL
Those are so ... just why are the eligible? x'D
But my real favourite is, as many might know, "Kilian".
That being said, I agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with killing extra adult sheep. They are not needed for reproduction, unless the mouflon is missing or dead, and it is usually better to produce more sheep, rather than feeding adults when making fleece, since it provides food at no additional cost.
In fact, slaughtering sheep is an important task for the village shepherd. The mouflon should be spared because of the free babies, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is ALWAYS griefing when someone kills the mouflon. I think it is frequently done out of ignorance about the mouflon's special role in sheep production.
We agree here, completely.
The way that sheep care works in OHOL is far from intuitive. I can't blame people for messing it up on accident. I once encountered a new player trying to stab a wild horse with a knife. I noticed him killing the sheep, so I sheared a few to stop him from killing all of them. Then he started chasing the horse around, trying to stab it. The horse was penned in with the sheep, because our village was pretty low tech and we didn't have anywhere to hitch it. I asked him what he was doing and he explained that he wanted to eat the horse. I explained that horse were for riding, not eating. Then I asked if he wanted to learn how to bake mutton pies and got him away from our surviving sheep before he stabbed them all.
Sigh ... noobs.
This story is actually pretty cute.
If the mouflon is still alive, you haven't killed all the sheep, now have you?
The domestic mouflon is not a sheep - but it can be used for making new sheep.
I was pointing out that difference because I was cursed yesterday from a player just for constantly killing the sheep for making sheep skins for the town's naked inhabitants, even though I explained said player that the domestic mouflon is making free lambs. The player ran away directly after the curse (kinda bad manners, whatever).
Killing all sheep is not griefing, killing the domestic mouflon might be and is in most situations.
Dear Jason,
Great to have you back!
Everyone needs every now and then time to take care of more pressing matters
I wouldn't mind Fish to get banned after their unprovoked insult to Methman, and the slur towards me by calling me a kid.
At least you left behind my lucky hat when you griefed our town.
You welcomed me into your town, gave me clothing, trusted me, and I misused that trust.
You had invested a lot of time into your town, the fancy colourful clothing and the huge amount of kerosene - and I destroyed by making it inaccessible for no good reason. I am sincerely sorry for having treated you that way.
Why do people always blame me for things Yikes does, I shit talked you but I wasn't playing then
I am sorry, I amended the post accordingly.
Dear all,
In the first two weeks of June, I started a series of griefing which wreacked havoc on the main server as well as in several low-pop-server towns. In the following I would like to explain what caused me to get so angry and afterwards apologise for the harm which I have done.
My usual goal when playing OHOL
Usually, I just want to play some lives, have a nice time with others, every now and then roleplaying as the nice child of my mom and raising kids (mostly when I play a female model), sometimes invent something unseen or make gardens.
At that time, another important goal was to distract me from the Corona pandemic and my personal problems, which comprised living during said pandemic alone in a foreign country and having made first, ofc unsuccessfull, experiments with the stock market. Playing OHOL was the only calming constant for me.
What was the incident?
Oftentimes, for some reason even stronger in May and early June, excessive berry bush planting was plaguing the towns on the main server. At that time, I saw other players, probably some of the other more experienced ones, trying to fix the farms by removing berry bushes, and therefore decided to lend a helping hand in that effort. After a while, though, I got kind of tired of repeatedly fixing the berry bush farms. On 04. June 2020 some nice, innocent random dude was helping me in removing those berry bushes, after someone else made a small, neat berry farm nearby to the sheep pen. After those unneeded berry bushes had been removed, I decided to explicitly not provide the by me produced kindling to the town, but demonstratively burn it down.
This action caught Yikes' attention. Without hesitation, they issued an order to the town to curse me, which more than 5 people immediately followed. Moreover, my model got attacked with a knife, directly after receiving those curses. The nice, innocent dude who was helping me in fixing the farm, healed my character model. Instead of talking to us, Yikes and their companion attacked in turn the innocent guy. This infuriated me extremly. Of course my model got stabbed for a second time, while I was standing there and trying to talk to Yikes. Due to the at that time present settings of the game, 5-10 curses were enough to end up in DT (if there were not a very recently by Jason introduced bug at that time, see below), classifying me as a griefer like Bobo Bill - which personally hurt me quite a bit. But what made me even angrier, was the attack on the random dude who healed me, not understanding what all this beef was about.
What stayed was the anger and the prospect that I would as soon as Jason fixed that bug, not being able to play OHOL on the main server during my usual play times anymore.
After this incident, I lashed out against basically everyone at once in the OHOL-discord-chat, and stating that I would be leaving. After a question about what happened, Slinky answered as well with what I received as a taunt (my account is the one from the "Deleted User"):
This message was what pushed me over the edge. Despite it having been only 5-7 players who cursed me in that town after Yikes' order to do so, I decided to take my revenge on the whole game community for what I felt as unfair treatment. At that time, I was way too angry to calm down and see what bullshit I was going to do. My revenge was intended to show the game community what I had observed as all the different kinds of hardcore griefing, and also produce a wound on both sides which would make it impossible for me to return.
Despite 5-7 curses being usually enough to be locked in DT at that time, Jason had done some change which pushed the families far more apart than before - which allowed me to play in normal towns. I exploited this massively.
In the lives which I played after the 4th of June, I was
- cursing every experienced player which I encountered, thus preventing them from being born nearby to me during the 1 week during which I was throwing my childish temper tantrum;
- bear griefing each and every town which I could find with 5-10 bears at once; and
- stealing and destroying engines.
In one of the first towns which I killed this way, I met a person who very civilised cursed me, explaining why he did that - which gave me a very strong hunch that I actually griefed Twisted, whom I respect and like a lot. Instead of stopping, I felt that I had passed the point of no return and thus pushed forward with my stupid plan.
After the first towns had died due to my action, the families were spread out very far away apart from each other, thus making it nigh impossible to get past the deep well stage due to the lack of tires.
With this, my account had "finally" accumulated enough curses, that it was locked in DT properly, because it must have had over 20, maybe even over 30 curses.
As I had already seen that a "proper" griefer uses an alt-account, I made one for myself as well with the idiotic name "Antioholist". With that alt account, I was taunting and acting like a mere attention seeking clown, in order to play the ideal griefer, accompanying all the aforementioned actions and bragging about some of those.
After I was done on the main server by accumulating enough curses to have my OHOL-account DT-locked, the next phase started - which was the low-pop-server griefing. For that, I mainly used the same strategy with which some griefer was plaguing the nice ladies on a low pop server, I think server 12, with whom I played some time before June, but who left said server due to said griefer: Ancient wall griefing. In order to find towns, I used waystones to find currently playing Eves which allowed to find even unnamed eves (named ones can be found with the leader-system).
I had told Jason repeatedly to make ancient walls removable, but at that point I just wanted to misuse another bug for my temper tantrum.
There was no pattern, no specific persons I targeted on the low-pop-servers. The only goal was to wreack havoc and make sure that "the game community" sees that nobody is safe, hurting as many as possible in their "safe havens".
When I was done and ready to leave, I placed a shrine-like ancient wall building into the last griefed town, indicating that all of that nonsense was caused by me, and then soon after stopped to play OHOL for a while.
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Apology
First of all, I want to emphasise that I acknowledge that my anger was nothing which could justify my actions.
Secondly, I take full responsibility for my actions. It was my anger, I did not deal with it properly and conciously made the decision to led my temper out on everyone - ruining your game experience on the main server, and destroying your beautiful low-pop-towns into which you had invested a lot of your valuable time.
I know that I have caused a lot of damage which I cannot undo. The only thing, I can offer, is the promise not to repeat said behaviour. But if there's anything that I can do to make this up to you, please just ask.
Didnt realize the town was his eyy? I wonder who you thought it belonged to? I dont know what your beef is with me, but after destroying mine, meth's, and ranka's town you followed me to another low pop server, tracked me through wondible maps, and destroyed my week old town I started with four other people.
The fact you dont even acknowledge me in this apology... is just
I hope you turn over a new leaf. But realize you have ruined hundreds of hours of my work, destroyed two of my towns on different servers and i dont even get acknowledged in your apology. I get you and meth were friends, which honestly makes it 10x worse, but you hurt a lot of people with your actions.
The situation there was somewhat different, comprising many more action in addition to low-pop-griefing. I will address that in another, separate topic. The present topic was specifically addressing the actions towards Methman.
EDIT
The separate topic: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … p?id=10282
Don't apologize to such a sanctimonious lying pig. He isn't worth the apology.
That is something, which I have to decide - and obviously have done. Your insult is not welcome here.
To be fair, I would play using the vanilla client if this game was playable without zoom.
It is not.
I am playing this game without any mods and it is very well playable without them. It just takes a few lives to adjust and to accept that one is not as productive as with using the keyboard, a feature provided by the hetuw-mod.
Dear Methman,
I am deeply sorry for damaging your town.
I know that you invested a lot of time into building this town. As far as I recall, you welcomed me into your private town - and I broke your trust. Breaking your trust, especially after welcoming me so heartily, must have felt extremly saddening, maybe embarassing. I was wrong to treat you like that.
I was letting my anger about my own problems, but also being constantly accused of griefing when I just tried to help, out on your town. After witnissing you bear griefing, and me again being unjustifably having been accused of griefing and getting cursed, I went havoc on your town, as I felt unjustly treated.
This inconsiderate, egoistic behaviour has caused you so much pain - and I realise that I have to make amends for that. If there is anything sensible that I can do to make this up to you, please just ask.
From now on, I'm going to manage my own stress better, so that I don't snap at you and the rest of the game community. And, I want you to call me out if I do this again.
Yours sincerely,
Kilian
Dear Morti,
How are you doing out there in the forest?
Will we get the chance to interact with you in a future stream, once again?
Dear Morti
Thanks for the nice conversation today. You gave me a very interesting perspective.
A smiley for you
Goodbye
The eve is a lie, there is only griefing
Through griefing I gain sadness
Through sadness I gain anger
Through anger I gain hate
Through hat(e), I ... [insert your personal reaction]
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