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I'm here looking for answers to the language problem (the in-game language problem). While I don't speak much German, I can get by in at least 4 languages beside English, and fake my way through quite a few more. I've grown up in several towns with diverse (in-game) language, and most of what I see from other families is total nonsense. I understand I could learn if everyone around me spoke from birth, but players don't. They tend to speak as little as possible,usually. Everyone is busy. I've managed a kitchen with a Portuguese speaker, and we were fine. I spoke English to those around me who spoke english, translated for my partner, and they spoke Portuguese to their people.
If we were living in real time, learning language from infancy would be natural. But when one minue=one year, there isn't time to learn new languages.
This forum has been really useful for learning tips and tricks.
LOL! Yeah. Yum chain is helpful if you're going far from home, but in village it doesn't seem worth the extra mental energy.
you've come to the right place, we do at times act jerkish in the forums but mostly we try to help people learn the game
Just stay away from unhealthy yum obsession and you'll be fine
I try to tell what we need, really rarely they do it. But i met people who think they are special snowflakes and at age 3 they only care about scavenging corpses, getting weapons and anything you ask they answer : "fck you" "do it yourself", quite often they start to annoy you, grief, even kill you later on. Lot of players even set as condition that they quit on you if you don't give clothes right away.
It doesn't really work to tell when making on your own is way faster.
II met newbies who were gathering stuff i only had to assemble it, but those players will be quite good in a short time. The best players i know just learned everything trough one tech, forums and discord, not really ingame.
Wow. That is some shit and certainly a reason for frustration. I appreciate when towns have a nursery/storage area to help get me on my way, but that would be really awful to just demand it. I will admit I tend to grab knives that are just laying around because it seems to make it too easy to grief (near the kitchen or obvious work areas where it's needed I try to find the one who is most likely to need it and give it to them).
My favorite moms are the ones who give me a job right away or say what they/we need. I know quite a few recipes from YouTube and onetech.
Junkmalme wrote:It is frustrating that I ask to help or learn a trade, and the people who know are too busy to help or show how to do things.
Intellectually, I aspire to help people out. Doesn't mean I'm good at it. Making the connection is hard. Often only when I'm the mother, I try to ask my kids "Is there anything you want to learn?" Of course we can't have much of a conversation at that point, and the baby can't practice anything. And if I'm female I keep having more kids to deal with. Often we end up missing a piece - bowl, iron to smith, alum for dye, somebody has to go get food, and then we don't find each other for a while. I probably do get impatient sometimes when they don't seem to be following an example, but perhaps it's going through the hints to see for themselves.
I think there was a thread about teaching techniques a while back, but I only play once a week, and those days tend to be interspersed with lots of "no thanks" and crises to be dealt with.
I can understand the frustration of more advanced players. I really do. I understand bbs who don't try to communicate or try to help in any meaningful way. I also totally understand getting busy and don't have time.
I'm simply giving a plea to more advanced players to try to teach and be patient if they can.
I'm not even advanced, and I try to teach the newbs. But sometimes the job just needs to get done. I'm only asking that you try.
Twisted:
First. I'm a big fan. You're the one who turned me on to this game.
Second, I was using tool tips today to try to help out smithing a shovel head. We are slow and literally in the process of learning to do the things. I get that. The smith I was helping yelled at me and told me to stop and go away. I've had this same encounter a number of times because I'm not as fast as they are.
I'm not trying to be a whiney jerk. I'm genuinely asking that more experienced players be a tiny bit patient while we try to do the thing. I'm genuinely asking that if we ask, and you have time, to tell us or let us look AFK while we look at tips.
Obviously, if things are in dire need, you have to do the thing. But if you can, tell us or let us learn.
I also suggest an option to "are you new" for "s" (sort of) to mean kind of new, but know some things, instead of "y"/"n"
Now, mostly, moms hang out by the fire and keep bbs safe until they're big. I think creating training areas would be really beneficial. Bb has no choice but to hang out until they're big. It would be a great time to teach skills. Not all moms need to have super experience. Ask bb "u new?" and if they are, hang out there and teach a skill of some sort.
Maybe when towns get more advanced, we can make a habit of making a small training/practice station in the corner of the village.. Set up basic Smith area and cooking area. That way new players have a place to practice and learn without getting the main Smith and bakers frustrated and sidetracked from what they need to do.. Mothers can take their children over there to help teach them how to bake and smith.. It gives more substance to being a mother as well.
That would be fantastic, honestly. I've heard mobile gamers have training town; having a training area (sry Jason, tutorial is way behind what people actually need to learn), with people willing to teach in a corner of a village (or even training town) would be really awesome. If and when I reach an area of knowledge where I could train, I'd be happy to train while I feed bbs.
Do you used the tool tip or some other way to learn recipes?
Did you get frustrated using the current tool tip to learn recipes?
Did you think about quitting the game because the learning curve was too steep and unintuitive? or for some other reason
It would be interesting to know the perspective of a "new player".
-yes. I know recipes thanks to outside guides, but no chance to practice unless I go to wilderness. More experienced players get frustrated with me not being quick and do it instead.
-the tool tips aren't very helpful, honestly. They aren't intuitive enough, and scrolling through makes other players impatient... they just do it and leave me behind.
-I don't want to quit. I like this game and want to play. I want to learn to play well.
- I feel like I've given honest and balanced feedback.
I have about 20 hours in. I've learned the absolute basics as well as some intermediate skills, and try to be helpful. I've honestly researched different topics and do my best to be useful to my village, most people do.
I see so many players like myself who are working to learn and try.
It is frustrating that I ask to help or learn a trade, and the people who know are too busy to help or show how to do things. I've gone out in the wilderness to use skills I know how to do, but back in town players who have been at it longer are too impatient to allow me to even try. Yes, us newish players are slow. But I've ended up in several villages where only a couple of people know how to do things and the village dies out because they aren't bothering to allow newer players to learn or participate past the bare basics.
-You're trying to build a wall/car/crate/floor/etc? Ok, tell us newbs what to gather or build so you spend less energy and we learn too.
-Need supplies? Tell us to gather things for you. Then we all learn and don't have this huge divide between the experienced and newer.
-Please, I know you get frustrated with us. We aren't fast. But we are trying to learn, just like you once did. Yelling at us helps no one. This game relies on more experienced players to pick up and help out younger players.
-Everybody needs to be making compost in more advanced villages. Pick a spot and for gods sake make compost.
We can mostly all help each other out.
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