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#1 Re: Main Forum » Memorable spoonwood quotes? » 2021-01-10 18:30:12

gamatron332 wrote:

Speaking of spoon where is he? I haven’t seen him around much... and I kinda miss the dash of illogical logic he gives

I thought I saw him in-game last night.

#2 Re: Main Forum » Welcome Bakafeck! :) » 2021-01-10 00:26:33

DestinyCall wrote:

Yeah, that is frequently how crafting goes in this game.   It usually makes sense in hindsight, but can be devilishly hard to work out by trial and error.

DestinyCall wrote:

On the upside, when you finally work out all the steps, you will know how to craft arrows really well.   And dozens of ways to NOT make arrows.

Yeah, by the time I've fiddled with everything for long enough it really sticks haha. I used to forget tons of recipes in Minecraft, but I didn't have to fight so hard for it. I had a dream of making a fire bow drill because of how much effort it took haha


Cogito wrote:

Oh, there is also a crafting help in-game - type /thing to see the recipe for how to make thing. Tab through the options to see different steps (the steps show up in the bottom right).

I do know about this, but I have a terrible memory. By the time I found what I was looking for in it, I need to re-find why I was even looking for it. I've nearly starved to death fiddling with the damn thing multiple times. I remember much better by doing than reading and hoping I latch onto the info long enough to use it, but thanks anyways.

#3 Re: Main Forum » Welcome Bakafeck! :) » 2021-01-09 05:44:01

DestinyCall wrote:

The making of stone tools by chipping or flaking is called flint-knapping, if that gives you a hint.    To make a sharp arrowhead, you want to use rock that will flake or chip off to create a sharp edge.   The best rock is somewhat brittle and uniform in texture and structure, lacking frost fractures, inclusions, or other flaws. This type of rock is very fine grained or non-grained.

Ahhh ok. There's so many steps to some things that I often find myself surrounded by enough stuff to build a hut just finding out how to make fire. Flint against flint was apparently not how that was done haha
I kept smashing rocks and crap against each other and against sticks until it worked, but it was the type of stick that eluded me the most. I had no idea how to get a skewer. I stripped so many kinds of branches and played with them haha

#4 Re: Main Forum » Welcome Bakafeck! :) » 2021-01-09 01:45:42

Cogito wrote:

You've probably seen it already, but if you haven't, the first stop in your healing-the-head tour should be onetech.info

The game is designed to have an inordinate number (hah!) of crafting recipes, so a searchable database is extremely useful.

Sweet man! Thanks! I've got it bookmarked for when the time comes. I just recently finally tried the end of the tutorial where one survives on their own and boy was the ground littered with every stick and rock imaginable, but I did figure out how to make an arrow.



OneOfMany wrote:

Pressing the ESC key, while playing, will bring up a menu of  / commands, like /joy, /leader and /fam.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is explained anywhere in the game. When it should be next to the drawing of the mouse on the game log in screen.  Just a little "press (esc) for / commands", maybe with a hand-drawn escape key.

That's probably how people got those little heart emojis, eh? Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out, I had no idea

#5 Re: Main Forum » To Ha aa » 2021-01-09 01:39:56

Beautiful, man. I like the lives and stories that make a person feel fulfilled or inspired at the end. Those who take the time to teach give opportunity and wonder to those willing to learn. It's really cool

#6 Re: Main Forum » Welcome Bakafeck! :) » 2021-01-07 02:46:28

Oh my heck a whole-ass welcome mat just for me? I feel like a king!

OneOfMany wrote:

Welcome to the forums. I love your enthusiasm. The first few lives are a real doozy. I remember those days fondly. If you need anything just ask and I'm sure someone will be here to help. FYI, the forums can get a bit snippy. Just ignore Spoonwood and you'll be fine.

If you'd like a profile pic, let me know what you want and I'll make you one. Have fun, my friend and remember to yum.

Thank you so much, dude! I think most of this game's "charm" is going to be from learning through experience, so I'll smash my head into a tree for a while longer first. I'll keep that in mind though, a lot of people offer to help and that's awesome.

Oh no worries about the profile pic! I'm just lazy. I'm a dirty weeb artist, so rest assured, I'll just opt to embarrass myself instead.
Twice now I've been hand-slapped mom-style for eating too much of the same thing, so I think I'm set, haha. Hopefully we meet in game sometime!


gamatron332 wrote:

I feel left out hmm lol, Welcome bakafeck! Watch out for the opposite of fork, they bite when you tell them that you have an opinion. He’s cool though, fun to watch.

Aww *pats* Well, I'm glad you're here XD Thanks for having me!
Butthurts are butthurts, I won't worry too much. Sometimes I'll humour a time or two but I don't really have that kind of patience anymore. I'll learn piece by piece.

#7 Re: Main Forum » User Story: Ch.3 Bitha Full - The Life of a Mother » 2021-01-07 02:33:55

antking:]# wrote:

well these were fun, I hope I mete you in the danger zone, you seem like a fun person

Danger zone? Shit man, I'm a puss as wimp, you don't want that haha. Thank you though! You and quite a few others seem to be like great people. I'm glad I'm here

#8 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-06 08:51:14

Dodge wrote:

Dont waste your time with spoonwood he never gets it...

DestinyCall wrote:

I like to try occasionally, just to see if anything has changed.

Not sure if it is hope or insanity at this point.  Perhaps a little of each.

Oh well ...

I am beginning to see that. There's certainly some reaches, and I had considered they were a troll, but wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. Didn't even bother to explain how two player reproduction would actually increase communication, they just said it would. I'm not going to bother to go to the other thread, I think I'm out, haha.

#9 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-06 06:15:04

Spoonwood wrote:

It's 3 years old.  That's why I said above:

Okay... still exists, still encourages at least some level of teamwork.

Spoonwood wrote:

It seems like you missed where I said in another thread that the solution to the single parent model was either two mothers, a mom and a dad, or two fathers.

I didn't miss it, I forgot. Still, the essence of the argument stands - it does sound like you want a couple-based system for the sake of having a couple-based system. It doesn't fix anything, you just want it. Which, as I said, is fine to want - I'm just not seeing any strong arguments for it.

Spoonwood wrote:

It's accurate for the game from the ground up.  In other words, if a family starts with nothing, the parental model will be single-player based.

The family tree structure clearly indicates a single-player based parental model.

The actual gameplay has only eves as the clear single parents - that's it. There's far less of them, and they're just stubs to get the ball rolling. For all the reasons I'd listed in my previous reply, it would not be accurate to sum it up as single-player based. It leans more on community or team-based, rather than family or parent-based. A start isn't the whole. I'm not going to tell people that HunterXHunter was sunshine and rainbows all the way through just because the start was a tad more on the chipper side.

As for the family tree, the difference between adding a couple or not is simply what it indicates under the picture. Maybe it'll say husband or wife or something, but the tree won't truly change much... you know, unless it succeeds in making everything harder and there's so few kids that family trees just die out faster.


My experience is much like DestinyCall. You'll see loners, sure, but there's so much community focus, that it really does function like a multiplayer co-op game.

#10 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-06 03:15:21

Spoonwood wrote:

And it still stands that parental model is single-player based.  It's all "you can do it all yourself" and "you don't need anyone else".  It discourages teamwork and precludes the possibility of teamwork.  The game has problems with teamwork, because of that parental model.


...No one can move as a baby though. No one can interact with some important tools as a child. Everyone needs care for like... 5 minutes at least. Then one relies on what their predecessors built, adding and tending to it. Even if the parental roles aren't typical, they're still there in a way. Even with unlimited eves, chances are a person is born needing others, and are accepted for relying on them if they help out in return. I haven't seen teamwork discouraged at all. Social things, like celebrations and such, are tossed aside for a lack of time, not lack of teamwork (minus the kid who asked me to help them bury their mother, so we had a mini funeral, we just made time for that anyway).

One of my lives I took over making dirt specifically. The person who was harvesting wheat and then making the dirt then only had half the load of work. We both still worked hard though, so we made twice the dirt. The farm didn't know what to do with all of it. That teamwork happened naturally. We didn't even exchange words, we just depended on each other. The odd parenting model didn't make that harder to do. It sounds like you just want dads because you want dads, which is fine, but it doesn't need all of this to say it, does it?

Additionally, it may not be accurate to call the parental model we have as single-player based. Naturally, nurseries were made to accommodate mothers and their children. Other women who come in to the nursery often feed babies that aren't their own. I was born to an afk mother once, and was adopted before I could starve, since my mother afk'd in the nursery. It's not the typical mother and father, but rather a community experience, which once again, technically facilitates teamwork. Not all the time, but it happens.

#11 Re: Main Forum » User Story: Prelude and Chapter One: Ashe Atlas » 2021-01-06 02:16:27

Spoonwood wrote:

You didn't violate any unspoken rules by making three posts.  Again, your writing style is your own.  I didn't see any problem with your form of expression.

I guess, and thank you for trying to be considerate, but I would still rather not have arguments in these comment sections. It's not really the point of them, haha. There's no need to egg on someone who's already annoyed, so I'll just be letting it be.

Caprys wrote:

Love your stories.

Thank you, Caprys! I hope people like the other ones I'm writing when they're done. This is fun, and the game can be oddly touching sometimes.

#12 Re: Main Forum » User Story: Ch.3 Bitha Full - The Life of a Mother » 2021-01-05 15:29:33

Cogito wrote:

Love the stories, thank you.

If you don't know, every time you pick a kid up you use one pip of your own hunger bar, regardless of if the child is fed or not.

Thank you! I'm glad some are enjoying them.
I did figure that out, actually. And holding them keeps the baby fed without draining and such. I have two more lives written up and notes from the 6th to write it with, and it's in one of those that I learned that, so the soul for the stories learns it too.

DestinyCall wrote:

Excellent lives.    Thank you for sharing!

Thanks! I’m sure they’ll get less interesting the more I know, but so far every life has offered something new. I’ll keep writing until they stop being worth sharing.

#13 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-05 07:27:08

Spoonwood wrote:

Mating partners could get arranged by the game such that they only existed in other families, and they not be fertile if they didn't engage in some fertility ritual with the other player in the other family.

Under such a system, avoiding incest would come as a simple matter for players.

No one would be born though. It'd be too much work. There's no point to that. Magical sky babies with questionable origins works just fine. No one has to wait very long.

#14 Re: Main Forum » User Story: Prelude and Chapter One: Ashe Atlas » 2021-01-05 07:24:38

Spoonwood wrote:

Fug isn't a forum moderator.  I don't see how you violated any rule, and I thought your story in three posts was fine.

Well... maybe, but every community has preferences and unspoken rules, right? It hurts me none to hear others out, or try and change some of how I do something. I may not have violated any rules, but feedback is feedback nonetheless. I don't mind.

#15 Re: Main Forum » User Story: Prelude and Chapter One: Ashe Atlas » 2021-01-05 04:52:51

fug wrote:

This doesn't need three threads to tell a story. Don't take pointers from spoon and spam the forums for what could be contained in one post.

Ah... I used to be on a forum where each story was supposed to be a new thread, so that was what I was used to. This made it so replies and comments were about that particular story. Stories that did not stand alone were to be kept in the same thread though, with comments disabled. I didn't mean to spam, just followed a different etiquette. Another rule was to never post more than three a week when doing this - so there won't be more for a while. Sorry for the trouble.

DiscardedSlinky wrote:

I also enjoy not having to go between 3 links to read a story. Could've been 3 seperate comments

I can always edit and add links to the other chapters if that would help?

#16 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-05 04:46:40

Spoonwood wrote:

The "father of all" narrative already implies that players reproduce with their father (unless an Eve).  Thus, incest already exists and is abundant.

Or, no incest at all would exist via active player based mating mechanics (via their characters), since no real-world sex would be taking place via such mechanics.

Yes, we know it exists and that it is abundant. My comments still stand, though. It's just a game.
The game has implied incest. Add mating and the incest would be less than implied, as all the characters are closely related enough to make it difficult to avoid, forcing people to do it knowing full well what they're doing. The incest is still very there, and very fictional.

#17 Re: Main Forum » Mating Mechanics Would Mean Less Incest Not More » 2021-01-05 03:27:24

Gonna be honest man... this is a game. If I gotta fuck my sister to get shit done in it, I'm probably gonna do it. It'll be weird, and we'll laugh about it awkwardly. I like the idea of communities raising the kids, so I'm not gonna think so much about a game's short-cut to baby-making. Making mating will just add complexities and not actually reduce incest unless incest genes are a thing to watch out for, and life is too short for that probably.

DestinyCall wrote:

Why settle for just TWO parents when you could be reared by the whole village?   We already work as a team, building, gathering, farming, and exploring together, for the common goal of village survival.   There is no need to divide us up into artificial pairs when we are all on the same team already.

Pretty much this.

#18 Main Forum » User Story: Ch.3 Bitha Full - The Life of a Mother » 2021-01-05 03:18:46

Bakafeck
Replies: 5

Nika, Ria, Bia, Ron, Reagan… six babies! Of those six I reared five - three girls and two boys. Wow, did I ever pump them out!

Er… anyways, I suppose life isn’t measured by children. I don’t even like the things, and I have no idea if they survived. Only watched them become old enough to feed themselves and let them to their own devices. To the youngest went all my belongings, and before my death, my next belongings went to another’s child. Here’s how the life went:

That life was as long as the rest, though it felt longer, and far more exciting.

Once again born to a black family called Full, my mother was Chancee - and she had to chase me! Haha! As it turned out, that kind man who picked me up was actually a local baby snatcher! I thought I was just born to the wrong place and was being relocated! I thought the man so kind for helping move me somewhere, too. I had no idea I was being stolen!

With heavy breaths, my mother told me to jump, so I did. The man kept going, and mother picked me up, and I swear she stared at me with murder in her eyes. She told me sternly, “next time someone picks you up and runs, jump and run back to the nursery.” She told the others about the man who stole me. I have never seen a room so full of people curse the same man so much. His name? Luffy Full. Only after looking at the generations afterwards did I see that he was actually my uncle - something I learned after I died.

She didn’t stop there, either. She was a good mom. She slapped my hand for eating too many carrots, and taught me how to make the dirt I used in the previous life. She stuck with me until I dropped my first child, and even then, she was never far. I got such a good start in life, and laughs, too.

I went right into farm life, working as a kid right into adulthood. It would be easy to take a break from farm work, so it seemed like a good choice. It was a good idea I did that too, because I never saw the triplets coming. Yeah. My first batch that life was triplets. I was walking around a corner with another woman, getting a new basket, when it happened. At first, I assumed one was hers and one was mine, and stumped about the third… but when we got them all to the nursery, sure enough, I realized all three were mine. I named them, fed them, and dreaded the future.

I learned that, if I was too hungry, I could not breastfeed. Good to know. Luckily, the kitchen was attached to the nursery, so I was able to eat well and keep the kids fed. Eventually they sort of scurried off as they got bigger, so I never got to see them grow. The fourth child was the same way, but the fifth stuck around for a bit. When he was born, I held him close. I stripped my own clothes off and put them on him, and when he got old enough to help out, I gave him my backpack. I showed him to the farm, and he thanked me many times. What a good kid. He listened to his tired mother, and helped with the farm. That was Reagan, and I’m sure he helped others afterwards, as that was the kind of boy he was.

Eventually I acquired more clothes and a new backpack - off of a dead body I found. I moved any bodies I found to the graveyard, but with no shovel, I could not bury them. I left the burying to another. I noticed some were infants - grandchildren of mine, but I tried not to dwell. I hard focused farm and social life this time, and I’m glad I did.

Plus, I made so much dirt! The previous maker used to haul wheat and make the dirt, but because I took over the dirt processing, she just grabbed a cart and brought over tons of wheat. Each time, I would shave cabbage into kraut, mix it with the hay, then water it, barely getting them done before the next shipment. We were so efficient, and my life helped so many others. I was always moving. Always working.

Finally, old age came for me, and my body began to weaken. I knew it was time, and stood in the graveyard for a moment before realizing something. I could be more help if I gave my stuff to a new child, just like I did with Reagan. I went to the nursery, where a new mom placed her child down, and stripped myself. I placed every item, even my backpack-basket, on the child. Then, I told the child, “you be good to your mom now”. I overestimated myself. Not a second past by after my last words left my lips, and I was a body on the floor. I hope I didn’t scare them.

That was when I found out that I can go back and see lineages. My poor daughter Ria… she lost three children to sudden infant death. That explains the grandchildren I left in the graveyard. I wish her better luck next time.

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Previous Life: Maple Full - Graveyard Girl: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … p?id=10418

#19 Main Forum » User Story: Ch.2: Maple Full - Graveyard Girl » 2021-01-05 03:17:07

Bakafeck
Replies: 0

In my second life, I was born to a black woman named Bali, of the Full family. Many were naked and some wore masks. My mother set me down by my sister, Millie, and started to tell us about the world. Their primary jobs were cooking and farming, which she asked us to choose. I chose farming, and Millie chose cooking.

Millie asked if we were girls or boys, and our mother told us we were girls. We both groaned, and she laughed, then asked us if there was anything wrong with being a girl. I forced a chuckle as I said “I hate babies”, but never told her about the children that died in my arms. That was last life. Even if I could not forget, I should not bring that here.

While I was a child, the fire went out, and the adults began to argue. “Who let it go out?” “Where was the materials?” “There’s wood everywhere, why didn’t you use it?” I wanted so badly to be useful, so I grabbed a basket and went out into the wilderness. I should have died. It was a stupid idea… yet, I found a tree, from which I pulled kindling for a fire. I filled the basket and returned home as fast as I could, and gave them the basket. Eventually there was another fire, and everyone was warm once again. Mother seemed to watch over Millie more, maybe because of my tinder stunt. Perhaps they mistook me for capable.

I strayed away from others and spent my time in the field. I had a child in that field, and despite my care for it, it died... but this time, I learned about something new. I was told that, sometimes, babies just die. They didn’t want to be where they were, and gave up. When my next one died hastily, I chalked it up to that sudden infant death, then kept working the fields.

I did a lot of field work alone… until I met a girl with a basket. Inside the basket was a body. She looked to me, tears in her eyes, and asked if I would help her bury her mother.

I thought nothing of that before. Who buried my body when I died last time? How do I bury this body now? I told the girl I didn’t know, but that we should probably find a shovel. We searched, and eventually, we found a shovel and she buried her mother.

I don’t know why that was so amazing to me. Suddenly farming seemed to mean so little. I asked the girl if she’d like me to bury her, and she said sure, but that she still had a lot of life to her. I laughed, and wished her well.

I began to collect bodies and bring them to the graveyard south of the farm. Should I have ditched the farm life so abruptly? Probably not, but I felt like I had more purpose in the field of the dead as a gravekeeper. Anyone else could pick up farming.

Then, I had my third and final baby. A boy who I named Frank. I fully expected this child to die as well, but… he didn’t. He even started walking around. I took off my shirt and gave it to him, and he took to the world like it was his to own. I finally contributed someone to the world, someone who wanted to be there.

I returned to the graves, proud of my accomplishment. I eventually found my mother and buried her, too. Then, I met that girl again. She and I, we just kept meeting each other… and oh, had we aged! She said it would be amazing if she could have a dew berry pie for her last meal, so we went to the kitchen. I found a berry pie, and asked her “Berry pie, or berry dew pie?”. She told me “berry pie”, and I gave it to her. I thought about the idea of a last meal, but decided against it. I had the farm to sustain me and the graveyard to tend to, and I still had time left. I ran as fast as my old legs would take me, and buried bodies. My life finally slipped from me as I was carrying the dead, only metres from the graveyard.


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Previous Life: Ashe Atlas - First Life, First Fails, First Friend: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … p?id=10417
Next Life: Bitha Full - The Life of a Mother: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … p?id=10419

#20 Main Forum » User Story: Prelude and Chapter One: Ashe Atlas » 2021-01-05 03:15:43

Bakafeck
Replies: 15

Chapter 0: Me, My Soul

I’m not sure if I’m being toyed with, and I’ll be honest, I wasn’t thinking much at the time.

For whatever reason, I found myself in a body. It had tits. Far different from what I’m used to. Not only that, but a voice in my head directed me as I moved along a path. It taught me how to eat, harvest, use sharp rocks, and make tools like a basket.

When I was cold, it taught me about fire. Then, it made me walk through freezing snow and hot land. What a dingus...

It tells me I will have this thing called a life. Maybe many of them. My hopes weren't high - what can one really accomplish in sixty years? Each year is so short… On top of that, each life might be different. I have no idea what to expect. I hate the sounds… everything looks terrible and the controls are horrible… yet… it is an interesting concept. Maybe I’ll try one.

First, the voice said I must expire this body in order to continue. A pit of rattlesnakes has been supplied for “convenience”, apparently. Here goes.

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Oh… another tutorial? Fuck off, I’m lighting the fire and jumping into the snake pit.

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Chapter 1: Ashe Atlas - First Life, First Fails, First Friend

In my first official life, I was a ginger, born to Feather of the Atlas family. My mother took me inside, fed and clothed me, named me after “a shit champion”, and then, when I no longer needed her breasts, gave me a backpack. She was a busy woman, always doing something, but she made sure I reached young adulthood just fine. She gave me a pat on my back, a good luck, I didn’t see her much after that.

What I did see were farm fields. Loads of them. Beside every string of farmland was boxes to hold the harvests. Someone pulled a carrot and placed it on the box. Then they did it again. Looked easy enough, so that’s what I did. I had no idea how to make seeds, just that I could harvest.

Then, the worst happened. I had my first child. I had no idea what to do, or how to feed it. It died in my arms, and I returned to the field. Everyone around me spoke a language I did not know. It was frustrating, and I was alone. Soon came my second child, who died the same as the first.

I was lost. I felt guilty. I could not care for the young. I could not create opportunities. I knew nothing. I met someone in the field, a friend who’s name I don’t remember, who stopped. Why did that person stop? It must have been the 20th time I asked how to do something, and that was the one person who stopped to teach me. They taught me how to prepare fields if I had the right tools, and most amazingly, how to make seeds. I no longer needed others to plant.

While working in the field I found a baby. I took it to the fire and warmed it, learned by accident how to breast feed it, and gave it a name. I wish I thought to write these names down. When the baby grew and began feeding itself, I gave it a fur to keep warm, and my backpack. I returned to the field.

That same person was there. I became old talking to them, appreciating what I learned. They told me I did good for my first life. We laughed, and eventually, they said “see you in another life”. I said “Yeah, for sure”, and went to sleep.

What a life that was. I was so confused, and just when I felt comfortable - just when I had a friend, it was all gone. The chances of meeting them again are slim, and we’ll never recognize each other, but there was a lingering feeling of fulfillment. I’m glad I lived that life. I wish I had paid more attention to it.


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Author Notes:
It's lives two and three that inspired me to start writing about them. This one was kind of plain.

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