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+ You can light straight shafts from firing kilns/forges/ovens. These things, along with making charcoal, last 30 seconds. A firebrand will stay lit for 60 seconds. If you time things right, you can actually get to your first iron tools from a single fire, rather than wasting a bunch of kindling on rebuilding it whenever it dies.

+ You can craft baskets on the same tile as the cut tule stumps.

+ A majority of the things done with a flint chip can also be done with a knife. This might be handy in mid-late game civs, as it could spare you the annoyance of scouring the camp in search of a flint chip. Examples include:
     -Harvesting wheat and reeds
     -Making gooseberry seeds
     -Skinning animals
     -Making needles
     -Shucking corn
     -Harvesting cabbage and squash
     -Getting a cutting from saplings

+ You can now cut a lasso back into two ropes, using a flint chip or knife.

+ If you split a large rock in half, you can store the halves in carts and carry them back to your building area. Replacing the individual halves together on a tile will let you split it into the cut stones for your building. This is much faster then trying to haul the big rock or cut stones by hand.

+ Adobe, as well as baskets, can be made with the straw from wheat as well- not just tule reeds.

+ Rather than chopping up all the firewood for kindling, try shoveling up the stumps of the trees and using that instead, along with yew and curved branches.

+ Along similar lines- don't cut down cedar or yew trees in your area, unless they're inconveniently located in the middle of camp. These are valuable, renewable sources of kindling. Try to stick to cutting down the more useless trees, such as the dead desert trees and swamp trees.

+ Don't use logs for firewood. Since you only get one per tree, it's much preferable to leave those for future carts/chests/flooring rather than wasting them on keeping a fire lit.

+ Never, EVER use kindling to make a large, fast fire. This is a complete and utter waste of the kindling. A single kindling is much better used on rebuilding a fire from embers/scratch, as a regular fire made from such lasts twice the length as a large fast fire- 60 seconds vs 30 seconds.

+ Every time you cook an omelette on a hot flat rock, you're resetting its cooldown timer of 2 minutes. By timing out your cooking, you'll be able to keep the embers going for as long as you have eggs. This can be very useful in early camps, and saves on kindling usage.

Very much agree that this is just another one of those "on paper its unbalanced/broken but in actuality it doesn't affect anyone" issues. Like omelettes. And eve chaining. And ground iron prior to the nerf.  So many nonproblems getting 'fixes' because 'well muh data says' or 'but theoretically.' Should focus on problems that are actually problems, imo. Like how potatoes are so shit that people are willing to kill anyone that plants them, or bugged cows, etc.

Opened a github issue on the matter, perhaps we'll see action soon.

Tbh I'd love just a general potato-themed update. We could get a bunch of cool stuff, like:

- A new tool to harvest potatoes instead of shovel [Trowel?] or just using a hoe/shovel once on the mature plant to uncover them, then picking each individual one out by hand.
- Potato Peeler
- Potato Masher
- Mashed Potatoes
- Buttered Masted Potatoes
- Potato patties or hash browns [maybe fried on a hot flat rock, like omelettes?]
- Potato Soup of some sorts [milk, potatoes, carrots or smth like that?]

Guess what? Jason promised to do something regarding potatoes when he decided, much against the opinions of those he asked, to utterly destroy the availability of iron.

Guess what he never did? do something about the potatoes.

Thanks for your dastardly lies, Jason.

or just abuse the snowball glitch and hit them with a snowball before stabbing. The knife wound doesn't overwrite the snowball effect so you get your bloody knife and they walk away after the 10 second coldness cooldown with no other issue.

is this really an issue though? There's not really such thing as an "infinitown" atm, because no town lasts forever. You're complaining and worrying about eves abusing the respawn function in order to have a town last forever- but right now, the longest a town tends to last is maybe.. 2-3 weeks at best. And a lineage, even one in such a town where they've got pretty much everything, rarely lasts beyond mid-20's.

Is this really a bad thing, or something to worry over? Such towns are novelties atm. There's rarely more than one or two known ones at any given time, and they don't last "infinitely" like you claim. Sure, in theory they could. But they don't. They never have and they never will. The eves get bored, or stop eve running, or eventually break their eve spawn chain. The city dies. Everyone moves on. But the memories it made live on.

There's also the novelty of being born into such a giant town. A massive, sprawling city, with outpost towns dotted around for miles, roads connecting it all, labelled and organized farms, even libraries. A lot of people don't like big city life. Even I'm not a huge fan of it. But the excitement of being born into a big town on occasion, one you recognize and had heard of before ever going there- it's a very fun break from the constant string of eve-camps and early towns you're usually stuck with!

I lived a couple lives in Goosetown before it died out. It was so exciting! I remember spending an entire life trying to teleport a child into the room so that they could unlock the door from the inside, as someone had blocked the outside with boxes. I remember exploring the road from end to end, ranging through the wilderness and stumbling upon forgotten outposts. I remember paying homage to our undying goose stump, and reading stories of past families in the library.

You're looking to take that away, for what? It might not be what you intended, but it's not like people are complaining. On the contrary, these rare and large towns are usually looked upon with excitement! There's a sense of pride and accomplishment in having a town go so far. A vast, VAST majority of eve camps simply die. We might reach gen 20, get sheep and compost and a decent forge and a small bakery. But it dies. They always do. And in most cases, that's the end.

But for the occasional town to outlive its first lineage, to grow and prosper.. that's a bad thing? It isn't in my eyes. Especially now that you have the option to lineage ban yourself from unfavorable scenarios. Everyone that might enjoy exploring such a large settlement can do so. People who don't can easily /die away and search for their preferred lives. There's little downside.

I don't know, all in all I just.. I don't see the issue. And I really don't want to lose the enjoyment I've gotten beforehand from being born to a large town that I recognize. The game would've long since stagnated for me without the occasional break from the constant push of eve camps and early towns.

Oh, you were the dumbass I was yelling at for interfering with a job I'd been doing for the past thirty minutes. Fantastic.

What you left out: I'd been handling the carrot and crop farm myself for the past 30 minutes in that life. I raised my kids near it and kept the carrots coming, to the point where we even had a bit of an overload, which I happily passed to the bakers.

I'd left the area briefly to go scrounge up a new hoe, as the one I'd been using broke. Got a bit distracted, and eventually came back to 4 rows of carrot seeds- I hadn't even watered the carrots before I left, since we had plenty around at the time.

So I picked two rows, which was plenty given our needs, and left the other two rows to despawn. Then you come busting in, shoving your face where it doesn't belong and trying to do things your way and only yours. I'd been doing my job perfectly fucking fine, thanks, for the last 30 minutes. We didn't have much room and had enough- both carrots and seeds- to last for the time being.

But oh no, you repeatedly claim "WE NEED MORE DON'T LET DESPAWN NEVER ENOUGH WE NEED AT LEAST 400" and the likes, despite me insisting I had it under control, we had plenty, we didn't need to clutter another 14 tiles with singular carrot seeds that weren't going to be used anytime soon.

Carrots are a renewable resource my dude. We already had at least a dozen seeds laying around, between what I'd planted and already picked. It only takes one of those seeds to get another 7. We didn't need even more littering the area. It's a waste of space.

As it is, I let it go the minute you finished and buggered off to go fuck up someone else's job. It was done. Whatever. I took my latest harvest and dropped off several baskets near the sheep pen, then took the rest to the bakers, and helped them work on getting rid of some of the excess rabbit we had laying around.

Lo and behold, fifteen minutes after the incident, you come popping in with a bow to shoot me for "harassment" even though I'd fucking moved on with my life already.

Tell me: who's harassing who?

- The person who's doing their job as they had for most of their life, then gets interrupted by some young upstart demanding things be done differently, and who in the end just lets it go and moves onto a different job?

- The person who rushed into someone's work, started doing things their way despite a stream of protests, then spends the next 15 minutes of their short life crafting a bow to get revenge for the 'injustices' done unto them?

I mean, even as a 5 year old and equally as a 55 year old, I've never had problems with this. Again, it's another thing that, if you know what you're what you're doing, is rarely an issue. Just like bears. All it takes common sense and not taking stupid risks, like running out into inhabitable biomes without bringing any sort of food with you.

I always use the full 32 years I get without fertility to my fullest, and almost never starve early, sans the occasional "going off to die of old age and getting sniped at 59 by hunger" scenario. I've even had multiple successful runs where I've had to migrate away from my mothers crappy pond-less site as early as I can to find a new place to settle.

It's honestly not that hard. There's food literally everywhere, especially since Jungles and bananas being added. A basket, a sharp stone, and a couple pieces of food to eat if you get low in an inhabitable biome is all it takes.

Okay let me tell you a few things from my personal experiences from playing this game for the last 4-5 months.

Every time- and I mean every SINGLE time- that there is a "Guard" or "Policeman" or "Protector" role in any village I live on, you know what happens? Either they cause unnecessary drama with their roleplaying, hoard every weapon in town, get insta-killed by the first griefer to cross their path, or most often- they spend the entire. fucking. life. running around with a loaded bow, scaring the shit out of people, and doing absolutely nothing productive whatsoever.

And on the other hand, every time I've had a successful town dealing with a griefer, you know how it was handled? By competent workers who were going about their own business and doing other jobs, but happened to have a knife on them. Myself included.

So here's some tips that I've found helps a lot more when combating griefers:

- DON'T HOARD WEAPONS. Period. Nobody needs a backpack full of knives to themselves. It's both a waste of the tool and the materials put into them. And it only takes one griefer to render that entire backpack of weapons useless.

- Pass out the weapons to other workers in your village. They're tools, not heirlooms, and the more people equipped to handle a griefer, the easier it will be to take them down. What's better- one person with 5 knives, or 5 people with one knife? Try to observe a little bit, and give them to players you notice are putting work into the village. The shepherd and baker should be priority, as they actually use the knife in their professions. Don't give them to untried youth or the elderly, and make sure to find an heir to pass your own gear to when you reach old age.

- If you have a knife yourself? That's great. Maybe you'll have to use it at some point. But being a "guard" isn't an actual job in this game. Find something productive to pass your time with. Extra points if it's one that actually utilizes the knife. If there's no shepherd or baker in your town, try to fill in that gap yourself, or perhaps hand the knife to someone who can.

- e observant. Sometimes people can end up focusing too much on their task at hand, and completely disregard other players until it's too late. It doesn't hurt to stop and observe for a moment, see who's doing what. It also doesn't hurt to be wary and keep tabs on players talking to/coming near you. Personally I tend to keep a few blocks distance between me and someone who could potentially have a weapon, often when taling. Those few extra seconds can save your life if someone happens to pull a weapon.

- Communicate. This one's obvious, but actually speaking with your village-mates goes a long way. Personally I've found that warning the townsfolk of a griefer before attempting to deal with it myself has helped a lot in preventing wrongful revenge-killings. The more players know about a situation beforehand, the less impulsive they'll be in reaction, and less confused they might be if the griefer tries to spin it back on you.

- Don't jump to conclusions. Just because you see a bloody knife, doesn't instantly mean they're the bad guy. Ask around a bit, from both witnesses and the participants. Get the story. You may still make mistakes or the wrong call, but it doesn't hurt to at least sort out the situation a little before doing so, rather than leaping to the offense because of a little blood. My personal rule of thumb is that if I didn't see it myself, I try not to get involved, unless there's multiple people to verify a story.

- Don't waste your curse tokens. Cursing should be specifically for the worst of griefers, or at the very least, griefers you witness yourself in the act or can confirm preformed an act of griefing. They should not be used on the mildly annoying- roleplayers, new players, the likes. And NEVER curse someone solely because "they told you to" or "other people were doing it." Mob mentality is not a good thing to have in this game. Make your own decisions on the matter, and think it through a little before using it.

- Keep tabs on the medical supplies. It also doesn't hurt to have some stashed away in case of emergency. People often take the needle+thread from the medic station for other reasons, and griefers can easily disrupt it by scattering the pads. It doesn't hurt to stow these away nearby. And if you don't know how to heal a standard knife/bite wound, try to pick it up from someone. It's a good skill to have.

+1 to flags, but I'd be really happy [and it'd make a little more sense I think] for flags to be based off the crown symbols ingame, rather than irl countries and such. Actual country flags could cause a bit of drama in the playerbase ["Why isn't my country included!?!?" etc.]. And I have to admit it'd be really cool to have, say, a Wolf monarchy, complete with crowns and flags. Maybe even banners we can hang on walls! Solid no to the bonuses though. Jason doesn't want any magical or mystical additions to the game.

Monkeys would also be cool. I liked the idea someone had of them eating any bananas left on the ground, maybe even from baskets. Having them run up a rubber tree if shot at [and missed] would be neat. Don't agree with the chance thing, that'd just be annoying.

He'd have to make iron veins way more common than they are now in that case, alongside making it MINIMUM 5 iron pre-iron. Given the fact that you need 7 iron minimum in order to get the supplies to mine an iron vein, you'd still need at least two veins to gain the tech to mine them fully. Factor in early iron needs and...

Well.. Think about it like this:

- Your first 3 go towards the obvious: Hammer, Axe, Shovel. Three most important iron tools. You need the axe for firewood so you no longer have to range for miles to get branches for kindling to keep a fire going to forge. The shovel is your key to the compost era, which is where your civ finally steadies. Hammer is obvious.

- Your next 2 will likely go towards a hoe, so you can progress the farm, and a second shovel. Because whoops! the first one broke. Thanks Jason!

- Your next 6 now go towards tools for the iron vein. This isn't factoring in replacement tools, of course, which will probably come up- especially for shovels, and likely a hoe and/or axe. The tools you need aside from replacements are: Adze, Froe, Pickaxe, File, Chisel, Bowsaw. Without these, no stanchion kit, no iron vein.

- By that point.. what exactly do you need the iron vein for? A pair of shears? A couple knives? That takes about 4 iron, out of an average of 20. And the rest? Smelted down and stacked, until someone has a tool that needs to be replaced. Probably a lot of shovels, the occasional hoe or axe, the very rare froe or adze..

Uhhh.. that's new.

As far as I know, farming in the desert is no different from farming in any other biome. It does not take extra water, soil, etc. Basically it has no impact whatsoever on the crops- nor does farming in the arctic for that matter.

From what I've experienced and read up on over the last few months, it's actually preferred to do a majority of things on the desert. This is because you lose a lot less hunger when warm [or hot] than when cold. It saves a lot of food to work on projects in warmth, because you eat less.

The only thing you wouldn't want to do on the desert is put flooring [aside from stone roads], make buildings, put fires, and wear clothing on it. All of these actually cause you to overheat and lose hunger faster.

Unless that's changed in a recent update, it should be the same as it has been?