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Yeah, not planning to shorten it artificially.

But it's nice that it's shorter naturally.

That's one of the core theses of this game:  that this one difference (having babies vs. not) is responsible for the vast majority of social differences between men and women.

In other words, why women get on the lifeboats first.

This game only has that one difference, and we can already see a difference in life expectancy as a result.

Well, it's either that, or the mental impact of running around with a peen sprite....

Nomenclature aside, is there a real problem here?  8 fams alive, and one skin tone was actually missing?

One way to tell, for sure, is not to get born over and over, but go touch the Expert stone for that skin tone.  It will tell you straight-up if there is no expert around.

Curious... I wonder what the life expectancy of the different genders is in the game, currently... will measure, just a sec.

I'll tweak those numbers again before the next reset.

Actually, looking at "normal" times, like right now, I see:

1588627530.81 nid:2966695 fam:4 mom:11 bb:6 plr:48 eve:1 avAge:27.76

I.e., total pop of 48, with 6 babies and 11 moms.  That's 0.54 bb per mom, and 8 adults per baby (0.125 bb per adult).

I currently have the max BB/mom ratio set to 2.0, and the max bb per adult set to 2.0.

Those numbers are probably STILL way too high, but it only comes into affect after a server restart.

I will turn them both down to 1.0 now, and we'll see how the next restart feels.

There should be 2x as many Eves as usual.

Antking, I really like the thinking there.

There is already a DING when a visitor comes to your fence, so something similar could work here.

The solo kill idea idea is a really nice one..... but there's a small problem.  The game doesn't currently "know" about property, in terms of what's inside and what's outside.  A fence is just an unbreakable wall.  A gate is just a tile that limits who can use it.  You can use those things to make property, but there is no "property" in the game.

Now, there could be something where passing through a gate owned by someone makes you vulnerable to solo kills by them, and passing back through it again makes you not vulnerable again.  That would work for most simple property layouts with one gate, but you could imagine it getting confusing for more complicated layouts.

All that said, I think there are other reasons people aren't making property beyond just these factors that make it hard to use..... property just isn't needed.  They aren't using leadership either, right?  And leadership has even been made somewhat automatic (your mother is your default leader, etc).

In the rift, property was needed, and everybody used it for a while there.

You think making and maintaining a gate is too much of a pain?

Have you ever tried making a diesel engine?  Yet every town eventually has one of those, right?  Because it's necessary.

Players are very quick to sort out the optimal, necessary things (no matter how complex or hard to use) from the sub-optimal, unnecessary things (no matter how simple they are to use).

I think that some of the recent food changes have made access control more necessary than it used to be, but perhaps not quite necessary enough.

I would really like to see a village layout with two guys in charge of farming a tightly-controlled patch of berries and carrots, and they deliver the results to the shepherds and bakers, who also tightly control their areas.  The shepherd delivers wool to the clothing makers and mutton to the bakers, and returns dung to the berry growers.

If you're hungry, you will need to go to the "output window" of the bakery, and NOT wander through the berry/carrot fields helping yourself to a terribly inefficient snack.

Furthermore, each of these areas would "train up" apprentices to inherit them and keep them going for the next generation.

Also, some stats yesterday:  there were 9 kills total.  5 group kills, and 4 solo wilderness kills.

Legs, I've been killed by a posse many times myself (when I'm playing as Jason), so it seems to be working....

However, it's true that killing is very rare now.  Yesterday, there were 9 kills total.  5 group kills, 4 solo kills.

I'm making posses stronger and easier to use (see update).

Something like 25% of players were the victim of murder each day before.... that was pretty high, and getting murdered was a core part of the experience for a lot of people, especially new players.

And very few people were saved by healing.

http://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=9090

I hear you on chasing someone who's on a horse.  Obviously, the force drop would have to happen ONLY if the required posse size was formed against you.  Otherwise, idiots could make you force-drop stuff at will just by targeting you.

But can you not re-pick-up something while targeted?  Too scared to grab anything?  So to stop a thief, you just need to form the right size posse, and they drop what they are holding and can't steal it?

And yeah, posse members won't auto-drop in bad biome (if they are part of a big enough posse).  I'll change that.

Will also do the DING thing if you are targeted by one person, letting you know how many are needed (the would-be killer gets a ding only, currently).

It's either hard to kill people, or easy to kill people.

You want it to be hard for griefers to kill people, but easy for good people to kill people.

You can't have it both ways.

What is the actual problem here?

Overwhelmed mothers?  That can be adjusted.

Also, is there a problem (still) with Eves getting swamped with babies?  This may be a bug in the code.

I just lived a life where neither my mother nor I were overwhelmed with babies.

I don't necessarily see fences as a way to prevent griefing, because griefing is rare enough that it's not worth it.  Fences have a cost, of course.

However, I do see fences as a solution to otherwise costly management issues.

In a game today, I started planting milkweed to make a lasso, and then my cousin took over when I was away.  When I came back and started helping, he told me not to touch/pick it, because he was saving some for seeds, and had a plan for the rope.

He had different ideas for the milkweed than I did, and there was a wasteful (time-wise) communication exchange there, where we had to negotiate about the milkweed.  In the end, I kinda just ignored his wishes and took what I needed to make the lasso.

If it had been fenced by me or by him, there would have been more clarity about the milkweed.

The question, of course, is whether the cost of fencing is worth it.

Another example is late-stage village life, where pretty much none of the berries should be eaten directly, but they still need to be grown in order to make more advanced foods.  Or you're making popcorn and tortilla chips and tacos, and hungry players are eating the corn directly.

So you have this big berry field sitting there.... it's tempting.

Eating the berries directly isn't griefing.  It's classic tragedy of the commons.

In terms of the cost of making a fence, that could be lowered somewhat (faster cure time, since the shaky phase is easy enough to chop down).  It's pretty easy to click a curing fence by accident and cause the whole thing to start over again.  Then again, there's the theory of homesteading to consider.  BUT, shaky fences fulfil that theory well enough.

In terms of maintenance, those times could be increased too (elder fence removal is a thing, and the gate dies with the owner anyway).

In terms of the burden of passing ownership, "YOU OWN THIS" is easy enough to type, and you don't need to spell their name.

Maintaining family ownership is harder, but you generally wouldn't need/want to do that for management purposes.  You'd do that (supposedly) to prevent griefers or to fence a whole town.  But if you're trying to manage internal resources, and compartmentalize, and specialize, then you'd want only a few owners for each compartment.