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Yeah that's true, ultimately population death likelihood is proportional to (birth rate / lineages).   

That said, the question isn't what fixes it, that's extremely obvious: you just stop spawning eves at a certain point, runaway girls can cause issues but only so much, and I'm sure there's ways of detecting and dealing with that.  The question is why isn't it done? 

The answer I think can only be that jason believes city life is boring and "fixing" this issue means people play in a boring setting more often.  IMO the answer there is just making city life more interesting by giving murder griefers more leeway to do as they will, so if your city fails it's not due to some unstoppable metagame it's due to your own city's incompetence.  Additionally, right now, the game balance "difficulty" is weighted so the more advanced your civ, the easier it is.  There's no reason it has to be this way, it can be reversed in a number of ways, although that is a more time consuming issue to solve.

I guess another reason might be the lineage ban: Eve is the only answer to someone that /dies out of everything, so "just stop spawning eves" is tricky for this case.  Personally, I think the answer is just allowing people to choose the family they want if they weren't murdered, but most people think that's heresy.  The alternative might be just not giving a lineage ban on /die, and only allow Eves if someone died of old age or there is no fertile females.   The reason most people chain /die many times is either trying to get to a family, trying to get to a city, or playing Eve.  If Eve is no longer a possibility, they will stop doing it.

Right now, this really sucks in a number of ways.  Want to know the best way of griefing an entire server right now?  Make successful eves and runaway girls exclusively every single life and /die until female.  This A) drains females from large towns.  B) increases lineages.
You will kill every single lineage at any time of day.  By yourself.  Want to know the best way to help your family if you're born a male and that family has a well run town with plenty of iron?  /die and stop playing for an hour and a half (or I guess just die before 30).  Not even kidding.  Think about it.

The current system is a real monstrosity that needs to be solved eventually.  I think the game would have been a lot easier to manage if it were less ambitious and there was only one city and one family at a time, but it is what it is

Well like, I said, for me as the game gets harder it just gets easier.  It's a full time task getting the branches, soil, carrots, and wheat that your partners will not do.  And it's not enough to get enough ingredients for a few tools and compost, a town doesn't really thrive until it has a dozen compost piles so it can have milkweed or a few redudandant tools so people aren't running around yelling "where's the hoe?" This is mostly a small village issue. Gen 2/3-10.

Eve and to some degree offspring of eve is slightly different and in a decent spot.  You have a lot of tough decisions, # of babies, spot choice, etc and a lot of them are settlement specific.  Like sometimes you wanna go for iron straight away like if there's 10,000 bananas nearby, other times you wanna focus on bushes, etc.  And you can fail, you're making a lot of decisions and doing a lot of different tasks at least.

Well my thoughts are more that less people should have to take that bullet, ya know?  Games are supposed to be fun. It's nice to want to make a game that's "hard because survival is hard"  but difficulty doesn't translate well into multiplayer cooperative games.  It usually just ends up making it more difficult in the "office guy who does the work his coworkers won't do" way.  It's worse here, because lack of experience in a very complex game means a lot of people don't even realize they're forcing another player to do all of the boring work to keep a town running. 

Yeah, advances to early age tech could help, but honestly just making it easier so we can have more fun with the early tech era would be great.  How many early games have you seen where people have had little tribal wars with bow and arrows or people having fun making less meta food, like burritos?  Almost zero.  You can only do that if you have at least two or three good maintainers.

Edit: To be clear here, I'm not annoyed by having to fill a variety of roles.  I'm annoyed by having to fill the core foundation exclusively (carrots, wheat, soil fetcher, branch fetcher) resulting in extreme monotony, if I care about the town survival.  And it's only just until recently that I've realized I used to be one of those dudes that wasn't doing what was needed to keep the town running, the town just "mysteriously" dies out while I'm working on the next tech level like carts or pumps, doing something like baking or smithing because I (mistakenly) think I'm the only one who can do it, or just having fun.  Which as I've said, mostly just makes me want to /die out of there so I can experience the better parts of the game, as higher tech that already have horse carts and pumps are more efficient and already require less foundation work. Just straight up having a less hardcore game would mean less "maintainers" which would mean you would only have to pick up these roles occasionally.