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I can agree that communication does play a big role, a lot more so than the actual action I think. The simple action of swapping clothes with a baby because they have better gear shouldn't be a trigger for curses, by any means. Neither should getting angry at being confronted about it. It's an overreaction- not just on their end, but both ends.

I think a majority of the people who responded on the topic of baby clothes swapping, were solely talking about that- which nobody is going to get upset over. In the original case of "he took my apron, I was a baby, reeeee cursed" then they'll probably take the side of the person who took the apron. Because they were older and could use the gear better. The fact that they took your apron isn't justification to waste not just one but multiple curse tokens on.

Of course, that opinion can change when they hear more of the story. The guy was an ass about it, started cussing in response, etc. They could've acted better in that scenario. But is that still justification for purposely going after them with curses? Ranting about their action for the rest of that life, enticing more curses at them?  It's overreactions like this that make me hate some of the playerbase. People will throw that shit at the first person who looks at them funny, because "ree u hurt my feewings" suddenly equals "I am justified in my actions. Begone demon!"

I've talked down people who've tried to stab me over miscommunications- rather than stab them in retaliation, I took their knife when they dropped it and put it in my bag. Me and several other villagers then explained to him why I stabbed his 'wife' as she'd been going after girls in town and had already killed a couple. He realized his mistake and apologized, but I gave the knife to a calmer player. He caused no other issues that life, and I'm glad it ended peacefully.

I've also explained to people that I'm using something and to please not just grab it when it's already in use by another player. To some degree, baby clothes can apply to this- yeah I suppose if you're an asshole about it, you can eventually bring retaliation. But overreacting doesn't help. Complaining about him to your children and grandchildren does nothing. Maybe if he was an actual griefer, but all I've heard was "he took my apron and then said stfu so curses all around"

Overall I just wish people would chill a bit when it comes to cursing. Just because someone hurt your precious feelings, doesn't automatically mean you should go around getting people to curse them so they go to Donkey Town. Curses should be saved for the worse players, the people who go out of their way to grief- killing others, ruining creations, being aggressive and racist.

And as far as swapping clothes with a baby, I'll never argue against it, even if someone does it to me. Without context, the action alone is completely neutral, and definitely doesn't incite being cursed for. I'm most definitely not going to pass down the story to my children, of the time an older player stole my apron. It's not worth it.

PS: The comment on killing angry mothers/children was sincere. I'm not afraid to stab someone who refuses to let things go and becomes a threat. I've been stabbed in the back enough times by petty players who got upset over something stupidly small, smaller than taking an apron from a baby. I don't risk shit. If they're throwing a hissy fit and I feel they might go after me, I won't hesitate to defend myself.

Because first off, they're a fucking baby. They just joined the game less than 5 minutes ago, and have yet to prove themselves to be capable, let alone a productive player. If there's an adult that's been working in the town for the last 20 minutes and could actually use the apron/backpack, then they should get priority over some 2 year old entitled brat that mommy decided to stack with the best clothes in town.

Second, if it's the 'only piece a toddler is wearing' then they don't lose anything. It's swapping, not undressing. The adult has been working and could really use an extra pocket- they can use it better than the 5 year old in the berry field, so they swap their seal skin coat for it. No loss or gain on the child's end.

Manners and communication is a given, but I think people here are more bothered by the fact that you literally tried to get someone exiled to Donkey Town solely because they took an apron from a 5 year old, that mommy thought would be better on a child than a working adult.

Tough luck. You're 5, and adults get the priority for backpacks and aprons. As you said, there's plenty of other clothing around. You have plenty more time than the adults to go make your own apron, or you can put on whatever's around camp. Nobody here cares much about the poor princess who got their apron swapped with a rabbit shawl. They shouldn't have cursed at you, I agree, but that's little reason to send them to Donkey Town.

I've killed people caught in the act of griefing, but I've also killed people that've simply acted too sketchy for me to trust. Go with your gut, but also think for a minute and discuss with your fellow players if that action is necessary. Learn to recognize names and faces around you- chances are if you've been working with a Bob for the last 30 minutes, he didn't suddenly snap and decide to stab everyone.

Well, provided he's not Pein, anyways.

I once held an experiment in a large town. When nobody was looking, I snagged the straight shaft off the sheep pen someone had stupidly made with horizontal fence posts. Nobody saw me do it, and someone fixed it before all the sheep got out- though I would've lured a sheep back in later on if needed.

I wander back into town and watch as the baker gets blamed and killed before anyone could lift a finger, solely because he had a straight shaft next to him- the firebrand the town'd been using for generations.

That same life, in a larger city that was connected to the town by roadway, I dispatched two serial killers that had gone after the townsfolk. Most of the players had already been aware of the problem people, and fed me while I was on cooldown, though I didn't really need it. Except there was one person who hadn't heard the screams or been there during the explainations, and rashly decided I was a griefer rather than someone helping.

He picked up the bloody knife of one of the serial killers I'd taken down, moments after my murder cooldown ended, and ran at me. I ran towards the middle of the city with him on my trail and danced around the forge for a little bit til he dropped his knife, which I quickly grabbed and stowed in my bag.

He yelled at me for killing someone [his wife or something, fuckin roleplayers] and me + several townsfolk patiently explained that the person I'd killed was a griefer, someone who'd been stabbing girls. It took a little bit but he finally understood his mistake and apologized. I didn't give his knife back ofc, because there's no way in hell I'd trust someone who just tried to stab me, but he didn't cause any other issues that life.

The last time I had to kill someone who hadn't griefed, but was acting particularly suspicious, was on an Eve run. I told all three of my children at the time that I was working on a bow and arrow for a goose, as we had a snake problem and were rushing a knife. My youngest, a son, wordlessly runs off into the woods when he's grown. I followed him uncertainly and watched as he started to collect things to make a bow himself- ignoring me and his sisters when we try to get his attention or talk to him.

After a brief discussion with my older daughters, we decide it's not safe to let him continue. I finish the arrow I needed, load my bow, and shot him. I then patiently explained to him why we had to kill him- he was acting too sketchy, off building a bow in the woods knowing someone was already working on one.

There are situations when you might have to act before something happens. Best I can advise is to at least discuss it with other players, and reach an agreement. Making snap decisions just because "WELL SOMEONE HAS TO BE PUNISHED!!!" is ridiculous. Witch hunts often end with more innocents being killed than truly guilty. Keep an eye on other players in your vicinity while you work.

Also, if you do see someone grief or kill for no reason, talk to the townsfolk and explain to them the situation before pulling out your knife. Give them a name, explain to them that x person did y action and that they should watch out for them. It helps a LOT with preventing revenge-stabbings from people who don't know the situation.

Personally I don't think the heat meter quite matches what I'd expect irl.

Grassland, Rocky, Swamp and Prairie are all the same temp, being rather cold. Snow is frigid. Desert is hot.

-I'd expect the Prairie to be warmer, as it reminds me a bit more of an African Savannah than anything- but if it's truly a prairie, it'd probably be a bit on the colder side.
-I'd expect the Rocky biomes, which remind me of mountains, to be a bit colder than average.
-I'd imagine Swamps to be quite a bit warmer, as they often bring to mind warm, lush, humid places [like the Everglades] for me. Also, an article I found states that swamps in general average between 15-35C [60-95F] in temp worldwide.

Since there's no day-night cycle in this, and no seasonal changes, this is mostly based on what a certain biome brings to mind when thought of, and also in general daytime temperatures. Of course, this is mostly opinion based. While I think of the lush, humid Everglades when I hear 'swamp' someone else might think of something entirely different.

Outside of making sure my eve camp is set up near a desert so I can raise kids more efficiently, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to heat in-game. Finding a good eve camp is probably the most it affects on my gameplay experience, as it can take quite a lot longer to find a good balance of desert, swamps with ponds, and lots of grassland to provide resources. Otherwise, while I gladly accept clothes early on to make the impact on food loss a bit less extreme, I don't give it much mind.

Actually most of the time when I get abandoned as a boy, it's because they want a girl. At least, I tend to get a lot of "come back as girl pls" or "sry need girls" which is what I was mainly addressing. Abandoning your boys doesn't affect this.

Honestly, if you don't have enough food to be able to raise one or two boys in an eve settlement, then I highly doubt you have enough to raise a bunch of girls either. Especially when those girls are either going to starve in 5 minutes, or sit around camp doing nothing but eat and make babies once they hit fertility.

Girls also take a lot more food in the longrun, especially if you consider the hunger pips they'll loose feeding babies, and the food those babies will consume- provided they don't starve as soon as you can't breastfeed them, which seems to happen in eve camps constantly.

Overall I think you need a healthy balance, and that balance might not mean an even mix. It wouldn't hurt that badly to have a couple more boys than girls- or, the way I see it, a couple more workers than breeders.

Part of what Pein said suddenly made me realize: It literally doesn't matter whether you abandon or feed the boys. Your pregnancy timer has already been reset by having him. Killing them off doesn't make a baby girl come any faster, or increase the chances of a baby girl being born, or anything of the sort.. It literally does nothing, except throw out a player that'll probably be born to someone else.

If you have 4 sons, abandoning them doesn't change the fact that you had 4 sons. It doesn't suddenly raise your likelihood of popping out a girl next. Actually, chances are they jut hit rebirth before your cooldown timer got anywhere near finished to have another baby. Chances are they're not going to come back to you, girl or otherwise- you just pushed them onto the next family.

Instead of being an old lady with 4 sons, you'll be an old lady with no kids whatsoever. Its not that much of a difference I suppose- you're fucked either way. But abandoning those four boys wouldn't have made your chances of a girl any better.

So honestly your only argument is that they take up food- but a good player, boy OR girl, provides more food for the family than they take up. Chances are if you've got a decent son, he's bringing food back to camp so you can continue to pop out babies in hopes of a girl.

I mean... The first point is pretty debatable.

Personally I have WAY more success with more boys in early camps than more girls.  My longest lineages [about 25-30 gens] have always been because of a decent balance of genders in the eve run, and not because I abandoned every boy at the start so I could get only girls.

Boys can actually commit to a task without interruption, and are very valuable in terms of progression. They can travel out of camp without having to rush back to feed a baby or abandon it on the trip, which is vital early on when you're in constant demand of resources. They can gather food, milkweed, iron, branches- whatever your early camp needs. A good boy easily provides more food than he takes up.

Meanwhile you as the eve, and any girls older than 14, are either stuck at home or on a time limit, where the penalty is another corpse on the pile. Also, this may be my personal experience, but a lot of girls I have in early camps just tend to stay at camp and never dare venture out- probably because it's been ingrained on players not to leave camp when you're an early/only girl, so as to "not put yourself in risk of dooming the camp" or some shit..

They usually end up starving because everyone else was actually focusing on progressing the camp and knew where the food was or how to find it, rather than making sure pretty little princess didn't have to take too many steps to get an omelette. It's rare that I get an actual girl in an early camp that both knows what she's doing, and knows how to survive without me coddling her for 20 minutes.

Also, if you have more than.. I'd say 3 girls at an eve camp survive into adulthood and start popping out babies, you're going to run into famine very quickly, as you're quickly going to run into a baby boom that your early eve camp just can't support. You only need so many fertile girls at any one time to continue the lineage. If you have too many girls popping out children, chances are people will start dying before any countermeasures will be ready.

TL;DR
Boys aren't "a waste" in early settlements by any means- they're a good form of population control, being able to contribute consistently without interruption. They can actually help out quite a bit as far as progression of the camp goes. A good balance of both boys and girls is key in early games.

A lot of what Pein said is pretty accurate.

An eve's primary focus should be setting up for the next generation. A lot of this relies on food, but also location and a few other things you can get done in your lifetime. Picking a good spot and getting the farm started is your main goal.

For the most part the people worth sticking around will do so if you have a decent location picked out. The best location has a desert, a lot of ponds nearby, and a good sized grassland close by. You'll need the grassland for a lot of supplies and food, the ponds for watering your future farm, and a desert to stay warm and lose hunger less quickly.

I tend to grab a sharp stone, a basket, and a couple things of rope as I search. It'll help you settle quite a bit faster, as you won't have to search for these things in the future.

Temp-running also helps a lot. When you stand still on a tile, it locks your temperature in until the next time you stand still. If you stand on a good, mid-temp tile, then move away and don't stop moving, you'll remain warm and consume less hunger as you go.

Rush the kiln and fire when you find a decent place to settle. I'd suggest about 4-6 plates, 2-3 bowls and a clay nozzle for your first batch at the kiln. The plates will come in handy pretty early for omelettes [and later for pies], the bowls for farming, and the nozzle for iron tools. Personally I also like to snag an extra adobe and make charcoal when I finish firing the clay, so the next gen can get to iron tools faster.

The sooner you establish a reliable food supply, the better. I'd usually suggest a 3x3 or 3x4 plot of berries to start with, planted as soon as you've got a bowl. Skewers, cut from wild saplings, work well for tilling your early farm- a basket of two or three usually does the trick for me. No need to waste milkweed on a stone hoe, you'll need it for more important things later.

They'll take awhile to grow, so once that's done you should focus on gathering other foods. Omelettes are great early food- easy to make and almost always fills up your food bar. Cactus Fruit is a great wild food if you have cacti nearby, berry bowls will last you and your kids a decent while, and burdock/onion are okay. You could also plant a few rows of carrots if you have a nearby savannah, as they grow fairly quickly and can help a bit.

If you get a decent amount of food prepared and the berry bushes grow in early, you may be able to help with the first iron tools as well. For me this is usually gathering some iron from any nearby badlands, so my kids and grandkids won't have to stray far for it. It could also mean snaring a rabbit if you've got the time, and assembling the bellows if you're able to.

In the end, a lot depends on how competent your children are. New players often will end up starving once they're too big to breastfeed, or just sit around clueless, unsure how to progress. If you're lucky, you may have some experienced players though- they're usually easy to recognize, as they don't meander or hang around a whole lot. If you do, they might be enough to eventually upgrade your eve camp into a town.

And remember, if you as the eve set a home marker and die of old age, you'll have a  good chance of respawning in that location the next time you spawn as an eve. This helps a lot with creating these advanced cities you speak of- as a lot of it wasn't done by just one eve's family, but a multitude of them.

More stacks yes please ;w; So far the last few updates legit the most thing I've been excited for have been new stacks. Yeah tree farming, dogs, etc. are cool... but stacks though???

"Married to ..." would be a cool addition.

So would "Adopted by ..." [ie: if someone from a different family names you]. Gets confusing when, say, the Rainbow Family suddenly turns into the Jones Family at generation 13, and you have no idea how to find the right Jones Family that converted them..

Except that's wrong, it's actually easier to grief a fence pen. Legit all you need to do is click on any fence in the pen and boom, the straight shaft is in your hands and there's a gap for the sheep to run through. Legit takes 2 seconds and renders your entire argument void lmao.

Sure trash pits don't look anywhere near as nice. But why would anyone spend several generations and a ton of straight shafts into a fence pen when it's one click away from being griefed? When they could finish a less griefable pen in a fraction of the time and with a fraction of the resources?

Until Jason decides to either nerf trash pits or make fences cheaper and less griefable, nobody's going to stop building them.

Because that doesn't solve the problem. There's a button right there to be reborn, and five minutes later you're killing people again. Cursing, and Donkey Town, is a way to punish griefers in an actual meaningful way lmao. Now you have to do your time elsewhere before you can rejoin the societies you want so badly to destroy.