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I mean pigments in the skin adapting to heat or cold isn't a big of a stretch. but it's hard to make significant to be important enough but not more important than other things.

They made INL and it is fun but since some of the mechanics are just reductant, like having babies is actually annoying. the playerbase there is more hardcore since it needs a better rig and more knowledge and another payment. and the age is limiting you from doing things while you are born on the same place anyway. so all in all being a baby is bad, and starting as an adult is good.

so no reason fixing Jasons nightmare updates, just scrap it, the game can have a new identity with new mechanics that make sense, good reward and punishment systems that aren't too complex and just make sense.

@selalov734 the way Jasus did the characters, their head positions or hairs are completely different positions so they aren't interswappable, I tried it. I even made a working, decently looking character but it's a pin doing it. the eyes are also way too low resolution, 9 pixels are already huge, kind of the same as the biggest one, and so it can only be black and white.

yeah the engine limitations are crap, we could make nice looking mods that are easy to install but can't fix the crap ui and can't add stamina or hp then can't really make it any better.

checks the 8x8 for temperature, the player is top left of middle tiles. walls limit the 8x8 to smaller size. walls and floors add insulation values. overly complex for like 0.05 bonus when a fire is already almost perfect

actually 2 fires with 2 free space create 4 perfect zones in L shape both top and bottom, also 5x1 room with a fire on one edge makes perfect temperature on the other edge.

turn it into a gen z snowflake game even more.

when idiots could be killed the game was way better. honestly if you suck at it you deserve to be harassed. if you can't even reflect on mistakes or get butthurt by legit claims then the problem is you. if you can't ignore bullshit the problem is with you.
being offended doesn't mean you are right
everything is your fault, either you allow it or attract it in your life.

you could stop any time

I play YAH on emulator, I'm slower than usual and got to work side to side when combining. has the spiral and the old good mechanics, and some quality of life changes. most players are dog water tho, as you can imagine. there is a mechanic that you mark a town for your spawn so you get back if someone buries your bones and you play 10 minutes meanwhile. it's not 100% to get back but it's still fun to continue your town and sometimes play with others.

I would. that's why I killed people who were intentionally ruining things. But slowly the community turned into gen z idiots who got offended by anything and everything and in all the wrong categories. For all the things Jason was going against the majority he choose the killing to be removed for a magical bullshit system where noobs are your leaders who can't even understand some basics. The meme score is not a guarantee they would able to be an Eve and make a working city, and the requirements are way too random for it.

Like people do not care about the location and advancement just to have their clothes and can fuck around. If you would be wearing clothes, they would accuse you of random bullshit just because they are envious, even if you made all the clothes yourself.

The name doesn't affect anything, it's certainly not something that ruins a city. Might ruin an rp baby life, they might die early if they get a troll name, but it's certainly not something anyone should curse for. And a bunch of people curse for this dumb reasons, meanwhile their contribution toward the town is negative.

There are people who overdo things, and ruin a bunch of stuff without asking, it's like they not bad, they fast enough to survive and produce things, they just don't have a sense of what is needed and how much. In YAH I met one of those, and I was pissed. So I just said 'why didn't you do the tutorial dumbass', as at least they got a tutorial. The ohol tutorial is dead. Like 80% of people can't Eve, can't help an Eve and do all the wrong things in all levels of camps. Like double fire, filling plates with eggs and making graveyards. You can't even ask them to get branches for tool making. And before you could do the important things, they got grandiose plans they will never finish. And a bunch of people side with the griefer just because they are their ingame mom/grandma/sister or whatever.

one time I tested, was griefing the town over and over, making Newcomen bases to block things, converting oven to kiln or destroying it, hiding tools, like bellows or axe, fire tools, burning food, filling stuff with seeds, wheels, repeating over and over with some variety. I usually didn't grief towns, especially good ones, maybe some shitty camps where someone pissed me off, but like just a few troll things, not completely destroying it. it just was a test that what would piss off others that much to get killed.

well turns out that most of the new and medium new people didn't care. they were annoyed but they just assumed that I'm new and I don't know any better. I was naked the whole time.

what eventually got me killed was the one time I named one baby some medium troll name, not even something rude. so they don't care until you mess up their dumb rp. a bunch of people are fine doing nothing for hours but don't dare to say anything negative to them.

With a horse is way different gameplay. Distance would be an issue normally, so those  numbers aren't that good. If you plant the milkweed you already waste the uses, the other thing is the stones which add up over time. Either too many or too little. I usually dig the closest big stones so they don't make sharp stones all the time. Flint works on wheat or reed, don't take a sharp stone to the swamp just to lose it. The other thing is the jackpots, there is a small chance that all items become a jackpot so if you find one burdock, flint or sapling there gonna be more next to it, so that really helps with finding things.

You can take a stake and round stone in your pack, a shovel and 3 fences. Make fences around renewable resources or groups of resources. I already did this after like 100 hours but rarely saw anyone doing it. You can do fences in the city too. 2-3 tiles next to wells, compost (because they usually too lazy to take where it's needed), next to kiln, oven, or just empty locations. This way you can group things like dropping items needed for smithing, cooking, cutting boards, etc.

You wouldn't normally stop for a sharp stone or some logs, but with a horse you got space and save time picking them up. So it's a bit of time setting fences but saves a lot for others after you. Also might help them to find the city if they lost. You can hit a straight and a diamond stake pointing to the city from the fence too. If you don't have a fence, horses are biome locked, so a tiny biome holds them in place. You can also get down next to a tree and stand on the other side, it's first movement will be toward the tree and will be blocked. You can also cut off some tiles he can run to by placing 5? (might be 8) items in a row or a wall to a connected biome he could run to.

You can build a cistern near wild soil. if there is like 6-8 or more pits, it's worth it. you can also disassemble it and relocate, you only lose a limestone really. it's rare but some cities got like a decent cactus farm and the city is far from water but close to soil, it's viable, but needs a bit of different tech ordering. you rush buckets, cistern and you can get a bunch of water using 4 buckets in a cart. Reversly you can make compost near ponds and use it up for milkweed or wheat.

not sure if this works, someone should check it. it works in yah. make a fnece under a stump and the goose stays on stump and won't decay.

Well, you are comparing games that aren't in same league.
Games can entertain people for long periods, like Mount and Blade, Football Manager, Stronghold Crusader, Crusader kings, I got tons of hours in them. Ofc is single player mostly, but with right mechanics they could be good multiplayer too. Stronghold was hard and multi is fun too. Maybe Factorio or ONI can be compared to it.  The others had a bunch of mods that made it better.

it's not a first person shooter or a sports game or esport or moba and those parts suck anyway. the one thing is good at is the strategical top down view, so first of all the screen size could be bigger, I don't mind if he intends to have it more personal but like allow players with more hours to change that setting.

When you look at the big picture, the tech tree should make sense, and it doesn't, because it's not a tree, it's more like saplings stacking out of the ground. Barely anything has a higher level, and things coexist on all levels, only tools and bucket and a few other things are required by other things and provide some quality of life changes. He focused on adding more things instead of adding a few things that can be combined many different ways, and the things don't even change based on the circumstances, no wonder that the players choose a few things that worth it and ignore the rest. If option A and B and C or D would exist, people would still do one or the other but would try out the rest too. But he instead split the content and players can do even less than before.

I just really don't get it, he makes it artificially harder for people to play, but most of those things aren't affecting new players, but if he would actually make it easier then more people would play and enjoy, veterans would get bored of it but they are already. If there are more people there could be different modes like easy and hard.

The rpg side isn't really shining, I mean you already got the premise to deny the persistent characters, so you can rp but will be over and you start over. Plenty of people enjoy talking and messing around, that's fine but since it's a game it should have a better (or in this case any at all) scoring system, better goals.

Not sure if people would pay for dlc, it's not like you can add dlc to online games where aren't even enough players.

But cosmetics could work, like new characters but for some money. You don't have to buy if you don't care. Or like observer mode, more stats and stuff like that.

there are no towns, the game doesn't know whats a town, there are people and there are items grouped that you call a town

non renewing resources are still bad
resources don't scale with players and activity doesn't really converts into resources.
race restrictions are still bad
trade doesnt exist without currency
giving things for other things would be role playing
stealing things you can access is not only viable but kind of necessary, and Jason did everything he could to enforce it and allow it
people giving things is charity, not trade
people giving you dumb things you don't need it's also not trade
people who can't do things, won't do things, it's not the language gap, I had 2 translators and the ginger chick still didn't understood why she is needed to do it for us, it's bad mechanics, they don't understand in plain english, why would they understand in klingon

the average player doesn't even leave the 30x30 area of the kiln
travelling more than 20 minutes is dumb, how does it makes sense to go that far when you can die and get somewhere else?
also the map is all the same and cities are all the same
single iron and single oil killed the map variety. having more water or iron creates different lives. well, when they don't regenerate, they are fixed and they are always worth the same, then there isn't much to think about it, you could probably calculate for how long is enough. also you can't help but feel when others waste it, it just shortens your time.

players should be always valuable, the more the better. but with non renewing resources mistakes are unrevocable, losing time is like losing resources but lot of activities can't convert time into resources. only composting was somewhat infinite, not really now.

The issue there was you listening to who says it and not what he says. That post made no logical sense, not then not now. There is an order of things and how you should proceed to reach them. The only situations would of been useful,  the main issue is how to filter out people who should be able to make such decisions for everyone.

Sounds more like an issue with the game not giving enough help and tools to see the problems. But also that the 'problem' is always the same: water, iron, and you even made them more linked so the water problem is really an iron problem, and the iron problem is a water problem. Which makes it repetitive, boring, and unfun, to suffer from the same problem, to be forced to fix the same issue.

Also the problem that lives are too cheap. You said that yourself, then you made it even cheaper. With a fixed resource count and fixed values the resources can be converted into time and time can not be converted to resources if they don't recharge and recycle. People eat, use water and soil, use iron, iron has a water value, food has a water value, soil has a water value. Probably 90% of people were using water ineffectively and they don't provide enough resources for their upkeep, so all in all, others are forced to produce the rest of those resources, and it can usually make others even more useless as people aren't motivated to do the chores when others do it for them. So you think you made the game harder when you removed the recharging of resources, but it's for all the wrong reasons.
Because some players still would do the chores and convert their time into resources but they can't because the distance is too far or the actions to do so are too complicated so they can't without fully committing to it. So you blocked that, but you still didn't do anything about the people stealing things and the issues of ownership and the engine stealing was the pinnacle of that, when people could just take the most expensive item to ruin a town and make theirs jump tech in seconds.

I can imagine that the whole area gets reduced to bare lands and the engine moving is legit, but then still should be a harder way of doing so, those situations are rare and the person who removes it should have enough game and map knowledge to do so. But if people can make a new one then there is no reason of removing well or iron pit engines. But then the problem is still the same, that removes quite a lot of resources from nearby.

You don't know what the next generation will do. But the players should not worry about what they undo. Because quite some of the people are really good at repurposing things they haven't made and wasting the resources others left for them. So if someone spent his time making something valuable, others should be able to destroy it in a few seconds intentionally or unintentionally.

You introduced quite a few (bad) magical solutions to things, despite refusing the (good) early suggestions.
First of all there is no TOWN. There is no territory belonging to a town and a line where it doesn't belong anymore to that town. It's a bunch of items thrown on the ground so where the garbage ends people turn back and go to bushes and eat a few more berries to check the other directions the garbage ends. Land is not valuable, you can't own it, you can't really clean it up and upgrade it's worth much. All the mechanics were belonging to players, families. That woman in that family gets a kid first then the other woman in the other family gets another then the 2nd woman in this gets the next. There is nothing about towns, it's about people. Also why the issues happen with all the leadership rules because there are no official satellite towns or splitting. I guess the iron and water is linked to a family and a spot but not much about other things. Like I would like to know what tools this town has so I don't have to go around it. I might be able to do the check but some people don't and I'm pretty sure that's why they do some dumb choices which then affect everyone.

Also quite bad that everyone is short sighted so they don't even see the town from above to see the structures. So planning is hard to do when people can't even see more than 7x7. Like how they plan things if they need like 100 hours of experience and a modded client to even understand why things are there where they are and why others intended that way.

There is no communication because you don't provide an easy way that people of the town can talk. No town chat, you got to walk next to them and they might miss half of it. Also making letters is longer than making food for everyone so you can write either write 5 letters on a board or their names on their graves. This balancing feels quite off, some actions take more time then their rewards provide. Is it something that is necessary for survival? does it take longer than doing something for survival? when all is centered around food, and food costs resources it's kind of weird that those things that are for just the rp costs so much too. 3 others starve while you bury one person. Graveyard simulator. Most people don't even see that. Since the interface doesn't really help them track it.

The game doesn't have a good retention. So people don't like the interface or the learning curve. So the ones that are able to handle that would be powerful agents to helping new people. So yes, you should make a game that is fun to play for long time. I think it's possible to be original still. Or you can feel that it's unique but it's not. We are quite far from the start of gaming, there are a lot of less known games that did something but nobody really knows about it. It's just the question of 'is it the right solution?' because half ass solutions aren't good. When an issue needs to be tackled, needs a good well planned solution that most people agree with. I mean if 90% of the playerbase hates something and you still force it on them then it's not a good solution. You can always add a twist to the elements borrowed from other games. The combinations of mechanics are still quite unique even if the elements aren't on their own.

Trans gen would make sense if people can spectate or able to return later. If they don 't, then what's the point? if they keep it or ruin it, if you don't know you don't know. No point wondering about it. You can see what they left for you and wonder who might of been, and be happy or unhappy about it. It's somewhat interesting except there isn't much of a difference in how towns look. But yeah the engines at least indicate the tech they reached on their own, not stolen from somewhere else.

Your last line: actually that's the correct order, you can make a new engine using iron, and pretty sure people are able to collect water with a bit of effort, like even in the rift, they were too lazy to step like 30 tiles to get water from the ponds.
Actually the real issue is that the engine takes way too long to make, and part of  that is the setup is so bad in most towns, that building a new area to smith where people don't disturb you saves more time than to try to organize the existing setup. It's hard but not for the right reasons. Actually if people could own things and others can't interact with it unless they get permission it would solve some of those issues. But that would require ample resources so the time invested matters more not the resources and timing (that 30 sec timers are crazy annoying).

I still don't think that the 'everything runs out' model is fun or exiting or makes a good game. The resources should scale with players. And every new person should bring value, not remove more. There should be a way to solve the puzzles. The time of the players should be rewarded more. That also needs more pressure on their personal level so they need to put in the work for themselves and don't expect all from others. So punish them for not doing the chores, not for being born the wrong time (or for wrong skin color). If the iron comes back each hour than it can offset the usage. The usage can be increased over time, the production decrease and the resource becomes more scarce. But the mistakes of not using them effectively are not so severe. That would require more of the important resources not just water and iron. So like power production or the wood industry improved. So there would be different scarcity levels of resources, making them more or less important and feed each other. So the problems are also different. And the time to do the work is the important, not the resources itself. You produce 20 iron but the well needs 18 per hour you can't make enough tools. You could improve the iron production with more wood but then you can't afford wood items for example. Each production line should matter, scale up, show the progress, but the issues would shift between them. So players feel that they doing well, they got extra resources.

Btw going further and further and ruining more and more land is not fun at all. Sends the wrong message too. Things can be fixed if people care. Not sure what would be a point of a game that has the dark message of everything will be ruined anyway. Things get ruined if you don't care. Like there could be other issues, not just water and soil, but farms get ruined by natural catastrophes, other tiles become inaccessible.
Also most players don't go far from a city, there is some progression, like an Eve camp, people don't go too far until the food is produced, after the axe is made they go like 30-50 tiles and late game towns around 80-100. But a lot of players live their whole life in the same place. Whats the point if their problems got no solution within that? travelling isn't fun either. When transporting is so hard there is no point, so without resources that come back and projects that need more resources, towns are not fun. You think of them the wrong way, they are not fulfilling because you don't have a way to convert your time into useful things that the town needs. Because there are no such things. You can't combine 2 complex items into a 3rd that does something, has a bonus, does something different or does the same thing as the other but a bit faster, better, looks better. So while people would have t o go way further and don't have enough resources to add to the town, the whole thing is boring, cleaning up others mess.

We might as well get smaller maps per family, not for the entire server but each fam. People could solve the puzzle and move to next map or die before they can do that. Running or riding horses for 20 minutes or more isn't fun either. And the race restrictions are the most horrible. People will do the things they can do, they won't do things they can't, not because of their race, or language, but because they don't know the recipes for it or why others can't do the recipes themselves if they know how to, it's a confusing system. It would be okay only if they can do everything but in different ways.

Positions could be fun if there is a framework for them. Don't expect that someone would have fun sitting in a fence with a well and give water to others. This whole communist utopia fails when people don't share things. Either provide a way that we can truly own things, people could still share things if they want. positions could work if the other parts of the game are better. Like you could take a position, which would come with tasks and responsibilities, and if you fail you would need to choose something else. Also you would get rewards and bonuses based on it. If it's just roleplay and requires you half hour to explain the jist of it, it's not really a tradition. Especially if a chain breaks and everyone forgets it anyway. If the town could focus on one thing and become better at it, like producing more wood, faster than other towns that would make it a specialty. Then if that would could be used to make buildings that would make it a better choice than clay or stone. If buildings have a reason why to make them then it would make sense to build them. Like a research bench or repair station could only be placed into a 6x6 building. Then there is a reason why you do a job, why you have an apprentice.
If the resources run out and you do something excessively, then making too many of it just makes it a bad and repetitive thing that is not optimal. too many bottom level items that can't be made into something better. Like if you could make wood furniture for decoration, but also use them for profit or quests that take it away as an order, or  combine them to more valuable items later./

played like 400 hours without mods, couldn't do it again xD

artificially decreasing the size of screen to make it more personal or whatever is just bad. like buildings taking away space from other things and empty squares are a luxury already. also no building or structure is useful or functional under like 7x7, I mean it's possible, it's just the centers need no walls and the edges got better efficiency per resource. doesn't really matter for the performance, I mean anything runs this game. when my old laptop died, I made it work on 2gb ram, it was horrible but with a few tricks like limiting frames to 30 (playstation 3 did the same) and dropping every second frame and dropping vsynch or things like that.

the game is actually looking good so just by letting to play bigger screen, more people would enjoy it. and the default could be still the same old 7x7. it's just jasus forcing his opinion on people. gets boring fast when you supposed to play the game for an experiment or a made up goal. I'm not even starting how much wasted potential is with the other mechanics.

the only one thing that was better at small screen is the timing of stabbing, with each different resolution the lag and timing is a bit different so you can mess up bow shots or stabs, not really an issue without killing players.

more tiles just show more stuff, if you care about the big picture. some people, even jasus plays an hour to do stuff that others could do in 5 minutes. half of the game is super easy and half of it is pointless grind. but doing things optimally still saves a bunch of time.

there isn't much skill going into it, honestly there is 0 challenge on personal level, it's more annoying that most players can't take care of themselves and the mechanics aren't helping to help them. so I don't really understand people defending the small screen. same thing, you don't need self imposed gates to the speed and organization of things, there could be actually fun mechanics that provide challenges.

that's quite improbable. if you can put one bar, you can put two or three, but if I'm wrong I would like to know why
in any case, it should, you can't really make ideas if there aren't stats to manipulate. with 2 things, you can complicate how you want, it's still a graph, can be simple or complex, it's still 2d.
temperature is like a box inside a box where the neighbors are exchanging heat and blablabbla. complex and realistic.
is it fun? no
I guess it was an exploit but before that, the map was cold and hot and you could abuse heat for better towns. it didn't really affect me, quite some time fell out while I had to eat but usually the town died out when it wasn't in a desert. after that 'fix' it had no meaning, it's a bit too hot here and there so you pay attention but also I always considered running trough savannah and ice better than caring for a few extra pips. so in that case there were combinations where the map was valuable and when is not. which made it more strategic.  sometimes it was also too hot and those who ignored it, died. the heat locking then running around was a clear exploit that had to be removed.
but actually the extremities are more fun. it could of been a completely parallel heat system with temporary bonuses to reward exploration and strategy like stand near a hot geyser for the duration of child care. that's the deal with buildings too, they block a lot and provide no visible benefit, so it's just worth it. combined with the short visibility range is actually really bad. not sure how it would be fun to check a thermometer in every tile anyway.

he said that he will not focus on other than hunger and temperature. stamina became part of the hunger which is kind of weird but okay. but having 1 hp where every injury kills you and even removing the skill based combat in favor of the 'who is more edgy and can be pissed off easier' contest and setting the best players as the highest meme score ones, which isn't really up to skill is just worse than bad. bit better than without healing but worse than right after that.

cars can't be eaten so they are bad but really, just the storage and general rewards for doing things, sometimes is so horrible that it's surprising that the first few updates actually had balancing. bunch of new things make no sense because there is no logical system behind it. I actually think in terms of value and complexity, if there wouldn't be so crazy resource based system, the complex items would be more valuable, but it still has to have a function, a goal, lock some part of the tech branching and allow an easier gameplay once unlocked. things don't have value, or no value compared to the effort you need for them. would need more expensive items, without being utterly complicated and time consuming. And probably not to let people steal or mess up others progress.
I remember when he first time ever considered fixing the 'don't do this' mechanics like burning fish and catching rabbits. It's still quite a lot of things you shouldn't do and it's not clear why for a new player. it's even hard to consider other players useful when their existence is setting others back so if they are lazy bastards then it will affect others negatively. So it's basically no rewards for a lot of activities but a punishment for everyone for not doing things the right way. I think any game should have a proper punish and reward system based on each individual, then it could be as a group but if people can agree to be a group. Players should be able to do useful things with basic resources and turning a profit just by being active. lots of time it's not the case in ohol. some activities are useless, and others are even harmful while you could consider them positive as a new player.