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Currently on wondibles map there's 1577 loose iron and 123 piles of some amount of iron sitting around.

While I don't think the goal of the thread is to make iron more annoying Forman is asking for iron unlocks not to be used up until the Eve or someone digs the first well since you can technically steal your moms iron if you focus on running somewhere else and setting up stones.

The only thing I find concerning is there's only a total of 9 kerosene mining rig (7 without tips, 2 with). If he goal is to use oil for iron things would probably need to be less forgiving. I'd almost go the other way though because currently the only way a family can move and get iron is to steal from dead towns or use the rig and the rig is way too expensive for an old family to move. Game mechanics will kill a family that moves without  proper setup so unlocking extra iron would still have a cost (food to mine) and I don't feel like the extra added iron would really screw with anything.

Bear caves only release one bear per server reset. This in my opinion is fine as this means you can clear caves once per week as a means to protect town. Following this I agree (and had already put in a github issue) that horses should not be invulnerable to dangerous animals.

Before you tell me all the horses are gonna get griefed this way this can already be done with snakes in the desert. If people are gonna lure bears it should either be gatekept through skill (gotta lure them without getting bit) or tech (don't let trucks and cars get damaged by dangerous animals.)

Maybe curses need to double block players? I don't know about other people but I curse people to their faces because I do not want to be born around the people I'm cursing anyways. Unfortunately curses right now aren't super effective because the most heinous members of the community already have a bunch of accounts (some using steam + vpn to get accounts cheaply). Maybe a combination of previous curse mechanics would help? What if we returned to the state where accounts with high curses would automatically appear cursed to others? The discord clearly tracks curse names and would be able to use to essentially check if an account is on the public shitlist. However, issue is people not in the discord are likely to just curse people who are showing as global donkeys.

I'm hoping the changes to gene score this week will make murder griefing to be more volatile as now if you start murdering your family it's going to smash your score as almost everyone (besides cousins) are gonna drain you score. This of course means a bunch of idiots dying are going to dunk your score but if you truly care about your gene score you gotta actually help in the case of trolls.

Returning to bears - It's incredibly easy to bear proof a building by setting up sheep pen styled airlocks on buildings. Of course the trade off is your basically make the inside of the building easy to boar bomb. In the spirit of Jason I would say you could always fence a town up to prevent bears but I think we all know how much of a pain that is. Also I hadn't thought of this before the tapout on gates but is it even possible to make a grief proof town gate? If you put something that blocks in front of the gate someone will block the tiles directly north and south of the tile now you can't actually leave your town. If you put the gate the other way someone can just build another gate to bust your gate. Basically trolls made it impossible to use a gate for its actual use by making gates into walls.

Unfortunately as stated: The best thing to do is literally not play when trolls are playing. You can't effectively curse them (account sharing of a bunch of bought accounts), You can't build fences around towns to stop them (they'll lock you in), and you can't kill them (either they have high score due to afking accounts or not effected by trolling due to gene score.)

Do you try to empower those who are dealing with griefers? If you remove /die restriction from posse it allows the good guys to basically quickly spawn in to an area to help struggling towns deal with trolls. However, this enables the problem that got it restricted in the first place - Trolls will communicate which town to spawn into and kill them. Do you reenable twin/groups to be able to join posses? This makes dealing with a solo troll quickly as a twin group can exile/kill (if high gene score) without consulting or dealing with gathering a group. Of course this makes it even easier for troll groups to do the same.

But yeah, anything you do to combat trolls is also a weapon for the trolls.

I think this just calls back to the  age old struggle of trying to keep things around long enough to cherish them and fresh enough to enjoy starting to build something from scratch. The problem with the latter is that the game can never go back to being 4 different Eve villages starting up fresh and slowly progressing up the tech tree. Five years into ohol and the players who have stuck around are too good to be stuck in an endless loop of constant Eve villages. The only time this occurs is with player booms when s1 is active.

I think Jason needs to look at allowing iron to be harvested from multiple mines to at least attempt to allow players to break away from villages to build their own outposts. With iron already being an easy enough to gather resource either from dead towns or just getting it in general there's not really an excuse to limit veins popped. Kerosene is the major bottleneck and we still see these giant kerosene runs being made by vets.

The apocalypse also needs to be doable. Current iteration has only ever occurred through bug abuse (bear cave exploit) and only nearly went off due to abusing gates. I'm not sure whether the time should be cut in half as a 12 hour session would be much more doable for a small group or it needs to be changed to be more resource intensive instead of time intensive.

I really don't think there should be one family per server even if he reenabled babies being born different races I believe it would be boring. Without going through all the hub bub of talking racial restrictions I believe there should at least a few different families. The game is properly balanced (imo) around 10-15 people per family, not too much struggling and not too much to worry about. When we've seen 30+ people in a family things get chaotic which I mean is cool but it becomes difficult to actually teach people.

If no racial restrictions the game should probably spit out an Eve for every 15 players on the server which would lead to an average of 4-5 families when peak times. I'm honestly at the point that I believe if people can run around and constantly supply kerosene then iron should be unlockable just like multiple wells. Kerosene is the what determines whether or not an area is livable, there's too many dead families producing iron or whatever.

Letting iron be produced like wells would allow people to run off and start new areas which is both good and bad. Good because people can stop complaining about resettling, bad because pip food decay will kill anyone trying to do this without the skillset to actually produce yum quickly.

Hard disagree. This would screw with low population by making people needing to login to the game once a day or two to prevent culling.

Kerosene works as a natural deterrent to resettling as eventually you don't have people bringing you oil to continue living somewhere, and people shouldn't be punished for putting in the effort to keep a place running.

This has literally always been a thing in this game.

The issue in my opinion is that because Jason changed iron to only be unlocked once people who would prefer to play in either a new area or start a new village are screwed over because they cannot know if their iron has been used or not.

People who want to return to their previous villages can do so since people build highways which just lets the players easily resettle the old villages regardless if it's viable to do so or not.

Both sides have negatives as playing as a pretend Eve will kill the family branch due to generational food decay and people migrating east will make it difficult for the server be stable due to families getting further and further apart.

The apocalypse in it's current form is undoable hence why we've not seen it done in the last 415 days or so due to a combination of lack of knowledge on the goofballs making them, and the skill difference of the players who stop them. The apocalypse shouldn't be a time based trigger but something that requires a large amount of resources and a group of people so it's more of a group decision to wipe the server.

Original client no longer supports Mac support. You've got to play through a modded client.

https://github.com/Awbz/OneLife

Sounds like the game is working as intended then.

As with most systems in the game it was added at a time where it made "sense" in a means of deterring people from having mixed race families but now due to the fact people can never remain close enough to actually learn the system it's busted.

I really have disdain for systems that encourage players to just avoid the language system entirely. Obviously previous to this people used phex chat to get around the dumb language barrier and without it vet groups just go to different towns and do all the stuff anyways. We just end up getting into these dumb cycles where Jason introduces something then fixes it followed by him breaking it again by not thinking about what was previously put in place which is the exact cycle of how languages worked.

Introduce people speaking gibberish, add in learning languages, then make it so you can't actually learn by making people not be near each other. Good work.

Can y'all just be friendly and stop name calling each other. Thanks.

Game can't really handle that sort of thing.

Jason would tell you to put a fence around your whole village (bad)

You can always go around and either block caves (okay)

You can always kill the bears early (better)

I would tell you to just curse people doing this but it's a known thing that anyone who unironically griefs this game has a bunch of accounts.