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I'm still kind of new and I've never personally witnessed an end of a family, but I had a look at all my family trees and it seems that they have all actually died of starvation? I have previously assumed families die because there are no fertile girls to carry on the family line, but the (admittedly only 8) trees I saw all all seemed to have fertile women, they just died early, and of hunger. I know that could mean that the family was in a bad shape for other reasons, maybe griefing? Or an influx of new players? I'm just guessing, I wasn't there.
Experienced players, what do families die of? Is there any hard data on it? Why are even the longest lasting only around for a day or so? I see in "All Time Long Lines" that some have lasted over 800 generations. What was that like? What did you even do in such an advanced town?
I can't believe that on this fine Monday evening, I am excited about an upcoming digital pickling cucumbers, which I don't even like IRL.
Life is weird.
Hi, wondible, thanks, that makes a lot of sense. So, a good chance the issues will be fixed if you look in on it later, got it.
You wouldn't happen to also know why some names in the family trees are so much larger than the rest? It's not massively important, it's just bugging me. Like in that Savannah family tree - https://wondible.com/ohol-family-trees/ … id=3071804 - Hope, Patria, Sierra and Hope (again) are in these large bubbles. It's not connected to how many children they've had or how long they lived... It's not connected to me somehow, I haven't played these characters, I just can't figure it out.
Do you have to wait till the family dies out? I've been checking yesterday and I couldn't find myself on any of the family trees, however I looked again today (all of the family are dead now :-( ) and I see myself no problem.
Only loosely related, but are family trees broken? I love them but so often they don't show names and I can't tell what number I was. Or they just seem to be wrong. Like, I was in the Savannah family today, and look at this, it can't be right. https://wondible.com/ohol-family-trees/ … id=3071804 and it doesn't tell me anything :-(
Thank you, happynova, and everyone else, for taking so much time to put down these thoughts, I very much appreciate it. We seem to have the same instincts where babies and new players are concerned, so thanks for validating me there, lol. I do always try to help if I can and I know how difficult it can be. I tried being nice and teach someone how to make pies recently and the whole village damn near starved, cause it was taking way too long.
First off, feeding your baby without waiting for them to say "F" used to be decent advice, but since these days feeding them won't work unless they're starving, it's not any more.
Thank you for uncovering that mystery for me! Also, sometimes the baby won't feed cause you are "too old" and if I could change one thing about the game, I would get rid of that. So many unnecessary deaths and why? Since there is no way to know how old you are, exactly (right?) it just seems a bit cruel.
"Order, please come tell me what you see the town needs, and I'll pass it on."
This is a great idea, thanks.
Thanks also for your view on who-that-must-not-be-named (cause apparently just mentioning him means you ARE him *eyeroll*). If I inadvertedly gave him any attention on this threat, it was not my intention. I'm just trying to learn how to make stews and fancy digital hats while the world falls apart.
As far as i can remember i had up to now only one encounter with him in game where Bobo was my daughter, that was quite interesting experience, i guess if it would be every day, and if there would be no good / fair way of fighting back then it would become quite discouraging.
Currently i see the biggest problem, that many vets are getting bord / frustrated from some restricting updates and then start griefing which then leads to many noobs also being seen as griefers, since all are excpected to be so efficient. In last life one cursed some one for using too much kindling for backing.... and there where tons of kindling easy to make....
But maybe thats simple the "Zeitgeist" if i look in the world and especially in Amerika.
I guess it would be good if we all calm down little bit and exchange with each other our perception.
Yes, I think we'd all benefit from calming down, but I guess that this game just reflects life all too damn well. But I get it. Recently I was in a village that had loom and wanted to learn how to make clothes. It was a lot of work - feeding the sheep, sheering them, making yarn, and when I made cloth and wanted to actually make the clothes someone else took it. Then someone killed all the sheep. But it's kind of nice to be upset about something that doesn't matter.
My third life ever I was born someone told me I was "in a Bobo camp"? I starved pretty fast. I still don't know how people can tell it's him and not literally any other arsehole and maybe it doesn't matter. I just find this game fascinating as a social experiment? It's touching that most people choose to cooperate and teach and build for the good of everyone, even though they will not see the fruit of their work after they die. It speaks to my soul as an atheist, lol.
Fish, you can both find someone had a youtube channel dedicated to griefing and not find that very useful or want to watch those videos. I don't really care about anyway and if you find me so suspicious (I don't really see in what way, but whatever) just stop interacting with me, thanks
wondible, thanks a lot, especially for the tip about looking for clothes outside of town, that didn't occur to me!
Legs, u a tough mom! Obviously do what you want but I'd just like to say that I was answering the question "are you new" with "y" long after I knew how to feed myself and use a backpack. There is new as in playing for the first time and new as in, I've just learnt how to survive, new as in I've just learnt to farm, so on...
Fish, I bring up Bobo, cause people mentioned him to me in the game, I don't know what the deal is and googling him wasn't useful. You don't have to answer my questions obviously, but there's no need to be like that.
Karrots, thanks! Is it bad I didn't know trousers had storage? I love bp, yes, I always try to give my children bps. Back when that child demanded I give him mine, he was like "I will die without it" and I was like "same". Very useful. And thanks for explaining how the leaders get selected. I haven't really been paying attention to the gene score at all.
Thank you, Arcurus, for explaining how the leader position works. As you and voy warned me, I will not follow anyone who asks me to follow them. My last game the leader cursed someone for filling some bowls because we didn't have enough bowls? So what you say about being angry at noobs probably applied there, though everyone has been very nice to me.
Thanks Catfive for the warning! Stupid question, but does this community just call every griefer Bobo? He's just a guy who puts his griefing on youtube right, not some sort of omnipresent evil.
Thank you both for advice, especially about the leader position. Good to know I could always do nothing. The moral support idea is great, I like it when leaders do it, though it may come in hollow from someone who has no idea if the town is going to run of water in five seconds or if we are, in fact, thriving. I forgot I could curse people.
About the evil babies though, doesn't feeding them lead to evil adults who can wreack havoc on the village? Is the idea to give everyone a chance?
Hi! I’m a new player (about one very unproductive week in) and I’m in love with this game, it’s unlike anything other I’ve every played. I’m especially fascinated with the communal and role-playing aspects. I did meet one or two assholes, but the vast majority of you is so nice and helpful! And was even when I was still figuring out how to water berries.
I have about five million questions about everything, but I wanted to get your opinions specifically about the mother – child relationship etiquette and customs.
Basically, what is expected of me as a mother?
Obviously, I always try to keep my child alive and name them. I had one baby though that demanded I gave him my clothes and backpack, which seemed quite rude. Do you guys consider it your duty to give your children clothes literally off your back?
I had one baby that painstakingly spelled our a very rude word (letter by letter) the first thing they said to me. Would you guys assume that was a griefer or just someone bored? I’m afraid I quite mercilessly left that child in the jungle to die. (If that was you, sorry.)
On a positive note, I love it when my moms talk to me and tell me what’s going on in the village or my siblings. It makes the game entertaining for the first few minutes when you can’t really do anything.
What is the deal with child suicides? How do these people decide so quickly that they don’t want to stay? I find having several children die on my in the matter of moments quite sad and overhelming.
Also, I became a leader now two times, always as a baby. That is kind of mystifying to me, I definitely don’t feel comfortable enough with the game to tell other people what to do. And how am I supposed to give orders as a baby, when I can’t say anything long enough? If I become a leader, does it automatically mean everyone else is even newer than me? Can I give my crown back? Please advise.
I out maneuvered my Bobo killers today heehee. I was Boots Tracheithasejsjifjisdfis what ever the hell that long ass last name is. I was born to my mom goddess who named me an left me in the care of my cousin Max. As he fed me by the fire he was brutally attacked an cursed by the griefer pair, Autmn an eleventh cousin an Raidiance his own lil sis! They began killing us all as Autumn was our leader.
I was to lil to tell others to unfollow her. she killed everyone but me a lil toddler runnig around hiding in the sheep pen. ducking an dodging them. I had two uncles who begged me to follow them as they ran, Irving an irwin.
I stayed knowing I would be this families only hope. I stayed on the outskirts till I was fourteen. Then I came into town to birth a baby girl. Now that I had my Miracle I knew what I had to do. I ran her north to our red headed neighbors.
I wrote them a note asking for sanctuary for my baby. Willow an her mother we kind and cared for her. I went back home to keep an eye on the griefers. Sneaking in every few minutes to water the berry bushes they were trying to let die lol.Once Autumn died I became the new leader an inherited her property that she had locked all the horses an food in. Radiance ran from town an died in the wild. I went north to get my bb girl an bring her home. We began rebuilding and she gave birth to her own little girl. We survived Bobo. Suck it! UUUUUUNFORTUNATLY we had a new griefer born as my granbb an she fed her kid who she named bobo to a wild boar before she starved herself... lol
Hey, I was in that family a few generations back! My name was Ursula and I brought up 4 girls. I'm looking at the family tree right now and can see the whole story right there. Your girl Miracle lived to a ripe old age, that's nice. It's a pity that the promising town was basically ended by griefers. It seems to be the case so often.