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"death-locked" another genius addition to a game claiming to be about civilization & parenting

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@Ilka

the game should contain features which reward players for their constructive way to play it - this is what i am preaching since months, actually since i started here in forum, a year ago !

as long constructive gameplay, which is eg teaching new players, is not being rewarded but just taken for granted, the actual violent gameplay will win the upper hand !
to kill & grief is easier to make & if orchestrated as group per discord it can be even more fun

where is the fun of playing constructively ? the feeling of being a good hearted human being ? lol
i don't need a game to make me feel that way, lol

& really, i have nothing against the inclusion of war into OHOL, i did accept murder weapons in OHOL since beginning but the violence has to be the exception & not the rule ! a peaceful life has to be the rule, the basis & not constantly killing each other
if i want to play a game where i kill others & get killed, the gaming market is filled with games like that, so why play this in a game that claims to be about civilization
what has killing each other to do with civilization ?

but since Jason mentions Rust as his current model for OHOL, so what is to be expected how this game will play in the future ?

i wish Jason would model OHOL along The Sims, but this is never going to happen
cause The Sims is not a "real game", as all the "real gamers", the "hardcore gamers" know, the "hardcore gamers" who all use a zoom mod to grief easier, to find their way around all the garbage easier, to find iron easier, to get away from wolves easier, who use the awbz to either kill the "fertile females" or quit because there are "no fertile females" around, lol

the only thing OHOL manages so far is to show clearly the polarization in gaming
i stated that also months ago already - in OHOL clash two sorts of players - simulations players & city builders with roleplayers & FPS-players
those two sorts of gamers don't fit & since Jason prefers clearly the second, so the game is being developed towards violence while the first group of players is thinned out systematically update after update
i persevered through decay, apocalypse 1, being healed by others only, temperature but the fences, the war sword, races & artificial language barriers are just too much while the peaceful life is still just barely getting by on a hunger ration of Jasons will to support it

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by introducing the war sword before the baby sling ? lol

burden after burden is put into the game
where is the rewarding OHOL gameplay if you're not a masochist or a griefer ?

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YES

& again YES !!!

exactly such is a description of players which i call EGOTISTIC since months now, SINCE MONTHS !!!

the player base is tiny
& the aggressive, violent gameplay invites & retains increasingly only players who are NOT IN THE LEAST interested in cooperation or communication
all updates since the stacking carrots updates made the gameplay worse !!!

& that's also why i don't play anymore !

i am not about to ruin my day by a game & that's what was happening run after run in the last couple of months

i wrote, i suggested - NOBODY FUCKING CARED, Jason just adds his crap on crap

yes, toxic ...

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yeah

would i be playing this game still, then i would have prefered to be a boy as well
being female in OHOL sucks
interrupted constantly, prefered to be killed, boring fertile years

where is the upsite to being a female in this game again ?
with Eves is the same
noobs just want try to found a lineage, cause that's the only goal in OHOL next to killing for fun
everything else turns quickly to a rinse & repeat grind

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great, i wished for that, still ...

are there ANY plans in the near future for some substantial additions to the peaceful side of life ?

or do OHOL players have to wait through another series of high tech, radical changes to basics & more killing objects
until all constructive players left for good ?

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@futurebird

the feature changes made with the last couple of updates, since the fences update are only the last straw for me, tipping the wobbly enjoyment i still had now out of balance
it's not like the game before those updates was great to play for me, i complained enough about the garbage, the egotists, the lack of organization tools, lack of features rewarding constructive gameplay, rinse & repeat grind building a settlement, lack of features for different life design, powerless Eves, boring exploitative female lives, mods skewing gameplay, those problems are still present in the game, the last changes didn't improve anything about that, didn't they ? rather the opposite, isn't it ?

months ago, Jason talked about how he wanted this game to become popular, as popular as minecraft
i really cannot imagine how this can ever happen if the game is just punishing players for even playing it while rewards those who grief
& minecraft doesn't boast as being about building civilization & parenting, isn't it ? it's an open world 3D sandbox multiplayer & that's it, freedom, modding & griefing
OHOL on the other hand doesn't allow a player even to defend themselves against being killed with one hit while it hands over another weapon to be killed with, lol

yeah, Jason has first to even out the negative results of the last couple of updates with several really tremendously positive features & tools, before i come back playing

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depends if Jason wants this game to go somewhere or just deteriorate

just because there are wars slaughters now doesn't mean that this is the end of development
we all know by now pretty well, Jason loves radical changes

i make suggestions & wait till there are updates that would be worth me spending time in the game again
atm, OHOL is not worth it
i make suggestions to make it worth it for me to play again
Jason is oc absolutely free not to consider them

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i'd say ... again

stop to fixate on griefing

change the gameplay in a positive way - fundamentally

add more options for positive gameplay

reward positive, constructive gameplay

reinforce positive gameplay

stop running after the last griefing option occuring

be proactive
stop being only reactive !!!

if you would - every addition to the game would get a chance to shine & not just be another option for greifers to harrass other players

in a multiplayer is griefing inevitable
but the devs have always options to encourage & reward positive, constructive gameplay
fixing the holes griefers exploit is not making any game better, you can try it, but people are smart & people love sport, so greifing will always be there
in the end it's not a question if griefing is there but if greifing is taking over
& griefing is always taking over if positive, constructive gameplay is not rewarded, often because the devs concentrate not enough to make the game more attractive to players who are not playing games to grief

all my suggestions made are about that - reinforcing positive, constructive gameplay
here my fundamental change suggestion : https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6595

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yes, but ...

those students are still living middle in a society filled with options, even if those options are not directly accessible to those people, they are a prospect, a perspective to live towards, those can become goals

those students who have chosen to refuse the daily chore of normality & went a la Walden are the society's bloom, they can indeed afford it because there is that normal background still going on

all that is missing in OHOL

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Maslow in comparison to OHOL :

lowest tier - physiological needs - are hampered by the game's main objective - survival game, you are in constant danger to starve, your mother abandons you, there's a 50% chance nobody cares for you while you're a wee kid, you are naked, abandoned, bored & set out to survive on your own, often because the life as an adult is not that much better
you are beaten to tech up asap, you are frantically running between food source & securing the next food source, securing the backpack, the basket, the stone
you are in a constant stress situation, would this be RL, people would have fled, well ... many players have in fact !
OHOL's life is a life in constant artificial distress

second tier - security - for a year we had two mighty weapons able to kill with just one blow, after many fights Jason was willing to succumb to a feable option of being healed by others, there is no freedom in OHOL to heal yourself or to prevent being killed, you just can't do anything about if someone sets out to kill you - to kill is fun (if you like to play violent games) to survive is not
now we have a third mighty weapon & we have racism newly added to the game
there is NO SECURITY in OHOL
OHOL's life falters on this tier already - you are not only not safe to live in OHOL's settlements, no, you have a very high chance to be killed whereever you go, whereever you're born, even if you flee
cause even if you have the chance to find a spot without murderers & foes, you will still encounter the danger of the biomes, the temperature killing you, the animals there mainly with one goal programmed - to kill you
& then people are asking why players don't leave the settlement, there is nothing interesting out there but lots of additional distress to the first tier distress added, so that's why

3rd tier - love & belonging - i said that meantime ad nauseam - OHOL is filled with egotistic players who play a singleplayer middle in a multiplayer game - yes, there are nice players still left, but the game is not in the least programmed to support what it claims to offer - civilization & parenting
the game's main focus is on technology, mods (even if they skew the gameplay towards domination), cumbersome crafting & violence
females are there because, well, it happens kids come IRL out of a womb, so OHOL has females, but that's all there is about feminine options, most players still present in game are MALE pretending to play female, Jason is oc, a male programmer thinking he knows what female needs are
did your kid die ? who cares - did you kill your mother ? who cares - do your bones disappear ? who cares - is your work wiped out ? who cares
OHOL is made around the notion that you are a tiny bit of working unit in a sea of work, so that's the best belonging you get
are you Eve ? - bad for you, cause your lineage won't survive, you have no power to name the spot you've chosen, nobody will ever remember you, let alone honor you, the best you get is a page outside the game where you can look up how far your murderous descendes succeeded to withstand death

4th tier - esteem
OHOL's freedom lies in killing
you have no freedom unless you mix up freedom with the skill to kill before you get killed
your reward is to have wiped out lineages
your reward is to have your murdering deed advertized with the red color & a death scream of your victim
your reward is to collect curses & end up in Donkey Town
your reward is to practice killings
that's the esteem of OHOL, everything else will decay or will be wiped out with some update or just by the low number of players still playing
now you still wonder why the players retention is low ? why should anybody play OHOL at all ? where is the reward to do so ? are you a masochist or a sadist, then you will be able to gain some esteem from OHOL, otherwise it's normal to not play it anymore, the game doesn't reward you for your time spend with it, it's even set out to punish you for that, lol

5th tier - self actualization
if you like to murder, then that's the best you can get in OHOL about that,
everything else is programmed to turn to nothing
because Jason thinks that makes a good game many people long to play, yeah ...

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this game becomes increasing unsympathetic

you won't meet me in game anymore
but who cares, right ?

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are the Multipurpose Newcomen Engines finally moveable now ?

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