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#26 Re: Main Forum » Just got stabbed for making berry and carrot farm for sheep » 2018-10-06 20:26:33

Booklat1 wrote:

do you realize thats waht your sister did?

Uh... How? Sis and I clear away some area for a cow pen. Another player comes along, sees newly cleared area, thinks, 'Hey, this is perfect for this other thing I want to do', and tells the two girls that did the work clearing, "Sorry girls, this spot is for my project now. If you want to do your thing, you have to clear another spot again."

How is that in any way what my sister did? We're the victims here. Like I said, I ran off and suicided. If twin  sis got some revenge before she followed my lead, good on her.

#27 Re: Main Forum » Just got stabbed for making berry and carrot farm for sheep » 2018-10-06 11:56:02

Both Suzy and I tried to talk to her. We both told her, several times in fact, that we DO NOT NEED another berry farm, and we had been clearing the space for our own project, not so she could plant berries. As far as I cared by the time I suicided, she was a griefer that was trying to sabotage efforts to improve the village. I was considering cursing her, but decided I didn't care enough to. That town has been hit by enough grief that at this point I really don't want to live there again.

#28 Re: Main Forum » Just got stabbed for making berry and carrot farm for sheep » 2018-10-06 11:11:24

I was there, and Suzy had the right of it. Suzy had cleared away some area to make another area for a cow pen. Then you came along and decided that, despite Suzy having done the work to clear (and with my help, I might add), you were going to plant more berry bushes we didn't need, a good distance from the existing 40+ berry bushes farm we already had. I was Suzy's twin, and was pretty much fed up with that town anyway, since that's where I was stabbed as an Eve. I did a lot of work on the existing sheep pen, and was actually kinda happy to see it was finished, despite the efforts of the griefer.

Anyway... The berry bushes you planted require soil and water that were needed elsewhere. The bushes were distant from the existing farm, so logistically it was a bad idea to put another berry farm there. And you stole Suzy's and my area we were going to build something that was going to be ACTUALLY useful, after we had done the work to clear the space.

I ran off and suicided, so I didn't see what Suzy did before she jumped into our next twin life. But if she killed you...

You deserved it, dude.

Next time, think about what the town actually needs and how the other person might feel about it before you commandeer someone else's pet project.

#29 Re: Main Forum » Snow Julien you stole from the wrong baby. » 2018-10-06 00:54:46

Let's throw another level of confusion on this topic. When I'm getting on to 40 and not expecting to have any more kids, I will usually give the clothes, backpack, apron, or whatever else I might be wearing or using to my next born baby. Minus any knives, of course... I either hold on to those or give them to the shepherd, cook, or trapper if I can find them and they don't already have one.

The idea that someone can take the stuff I've given off of my own back from my kid irritates me to no end. I don't care if you think it's communism, who made it, or what else is going on in your head. I've passed the torch and given my tools of my trade to my kid. If you think you deserve it more and want to take it from my kid... screw you. Those were MY gear, and I gave it to MY kid. If you wanted it so bad, you could do MY job, whatever I was doing, which I typically teach (if necessary) my kid to do and let them take over.

I've learned my lesson, though, and have started waiting until my kid is old enough or close to old enough that nobody can just swap their gear like that. After the last time an adult swapped my kid's crown with a wool hat, new backpack (with my pie and snares) with a worn backpack, and apron (with needle and thread) with a fur coat, and then stole and ran away with my cart full of baskets, I've learned not to trust ANYONE to leave my kid's gear alone.

#30 Re: News » Update: Temperature system fixed » 2018-10-06 00:24:16

WomanWizard wrote:

I was the last surviving female and there was a heartwarming reunion with my uncle later on, who had been building a camp in the hopes someone survived.

Oh my god, I think that was me! Did your uncle come back to camp carrying a cart full of a bunch of iron? I use the OLPlus mod by Awbz, so I knew someone was out there, and I was just happy that you made it back to camp and kept the family going.

#31 Re: Main Forum » Abandon Boys » 2018-10-01 04:43:45

For my part, the Onelife Plus family health window helps a lot when I'm trying to decide whether to stay as a boy or try to respawn as a girl. If I spawn as a boy and I see less than around 4 total fertile or young girls listed, I suicide and try to come back as a boy. If the family is healthy, though, I'll stick it out and get some work done. Boys can do a lot of work without having to worry about suddenly having a kid to take care of.

That said, I don't think that boys should be completely discounted as viable in an eve camp. I had a son (bless his heart) that made sure that the nursing mothers had enough food lying around. Burdock roots, eggs, wild carrots, and onions. And it made me realize... that's something I can and should be doing as a boy in an eve camp: Providing for the mothers!

On the other side of things, I'm getting better at caring for a kid while I'm working... assuming the kid wants to be taken care of. I've started to decide, "I just ain't got the time to chase after runaway babies". But I've had a few kids that I've taken care of while still managing to gather a full cart of rabbits.... with the assistance of the pie I stuffed in my backpack, haha.

In any case, a well played boy is as much an asset to a camp as a birthing girl. I understand wanting to preserve the family line, but boys shouldn't be abandoned just because they're boys. If you have a few fertile girls, keeping a boy could mean the difference between starving or not... as long as that boy is smart enough to help provide!

Which comes back to communication, I guess. Especially in an eve camp, you need to communicate needs. Nursing mothers need food. Send someone to get food.

#32 Re: Main Forum » Do Dogs STILL not decay? » 2018-09-29 01:49:17

So are dogs STILL broken

It took Jason three months to fix pig bones/teleporters we're just hoping to not see another three months of corpses laying around from a meme animal.

All I hear here is "Fix it! Fix it now!". And I may be new here, but I do know that Jason is a one man crew, doing this game on his own. He's not part of a large programming team. If there's a bug, he has to track it down and fix it by himself.

My point is pestering him for fixes or updates is not helpful. The attitude "It's been X long and this bug STILL hasn't been fixed?" implies that you think Jason's #1 priority above everything else is to fix the bug YOU told him about. There might be dozens of others that he's trying to fix, and fixing bugs has this annoying tendency to sometimes cause other bugs which were hidden before to crop up, or it might create new bugs. Debugging isn't a fast process, and you STILL want him to add new content as well.

Cut him some slack. This kind of topic is not helpful, and that's what I was trying to portray in my first, very sarcastic, retort.

#33 Re: News » Update: Emotion » 2018-09-28 19:08:56

For the most part, the steam users aren't aware that there are forums anywhere outside of steam and don't go looking for them. A sticky topic in the steam community would alleviate that problem.

For my part, if there are forums outside of steam, I will preferentially go to them. Because for the most part, the people in the forums in the steam communities are at least one of: Toxic, Idiotic, Rude. It's hard to have a discussion about anything that's broken or try to pin bugs without someone coming in, trying to be "helpful" by posting their workaround... and then they get offended when you tell them you're not looking for workarounds, you're trying to pin down where exactly the bug is so it can be reported and fixed. Every so often, someone will go through the oldest of the forum posts they can find and start responding to them, necroing post after post, annoying the hell out of the community. If you post an opinion, be prepared to have someone be offended by the existence of your opinion, and try to start a flame war with you.

The steam community is... well... not a good place, and to be quite honest I'd be glad if the toxic elements of the steam community forum stayed in the steam community forum.

#34 Main Forum » Forum suggestions » 2018-09-28 18:53:11

ShadouFireborn
Replies: 4

I have a few suggestions to expand the forum a bit and prepare it for the growth that will come when the game hits steam.

Rename User Stories and User Fan Art to Featured Stories and Featured Fan Art. Create two new subforums under Main Forum for User Stories and Fan Art, and make them open to post in.

Create a new forum under Support named Suggestions, for where people can post their suggestions related to the game.

Currently, having Main Forum as a catch all for all three of these types of postings isn't terrible, though suggestions does seem to be taking over a little, so suggestions having its own forum would be great.

As for User Stories and User Fan Art, I posted a story in the forum and was told it should have gone into the User Stories forum by someone that didn't know that forum was locked. Having a dedicated forum for user stories and fan art might be a good idea to avert that nonsense... and besides, there might be people that would want to write user stories or post fan art, but there's nowhere to put them... or after putting them in Main Forum, they just immediately get buried under other topics, so they don't see any point.

#35 Re: Main Forum » USEFUL UPDATES! » 2018-09-28 18:41:21

Raw Beef + sliced carrot (sharp rock / knife alone in bowl) + chopped onion (sharp rock / knife alone in bowl ) in crock = beef vegetable stew.

And make onions farmable.

Alternately, use corn kernels in place of onion. Or beans.

Or just use both recipes. I mean, only having one possible stew recipe kinda sucks. Let's expand the menu!

#36 Re: Main Forum » Do Dogs STILL not decay? » 2018-09-28 18:29:06

Booklat1 wrote:
ShadouFireborn wrote:

OneTech is gospel, and we can not and should not do our own independent research to verify the integrity of the information given by OneTech.

Also, Jason does not deserve any kind of vacation and is at the mercy of the OneLife playerbase's demands for updates now, Now, NOW!

Jason just went on vacation, what even is your point?

I think you illustrate my point nicely.

#37 Re: Main Forum » Do Dogs STILL not decay? » 2018-09-28 01:22:49

OneTech is gospel, and we can not and should not do our own independent research to verify the integrity of the information given by OneTech.

Also, Jason does not deserve any kind of vacation and is at the mercy of the OneLife playerbase's demands for updates now, Now, NOW!

#38 Re: Main Forum » Pet Peeves? » 2018-09-25 21:08:17

LaughAtlantis wrote:

Stop burying people next to things.  Take three seconds, walk away from town, dump the body, walk back.

DON'T BURY IT.

It will not decay in your lifetime anyway.  It makes no difference, as long as you take the time to WALK AWAY.

FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY, MOVE BODIES AWAY FROM TOWN. THEY'RE DECOMPOSING.

Now bring your shovel back here and put it to good use by building a well or putting some dung on compost. Don't bury people.

ERGH.

Now I feel bad. I had a life where my mom was generous and caring. She made sure I was at a comfortable temperature by the fire. When she suddenly became too old to nurse me, she hand fed me berries. She clothed me off of her own back. And when I was old enough to work, she took the time (because I didn't know how) to teach me, step by step, how to make stew. Then she watched me make a batch of stew myself, and helped me when I struggled with the beans. And for the rest of her life, we farmed and made stew together. When she died, I took her remains a few steps north of our farm (note: our farm was on the North end of town) where we made stew, and buried her where she could watch over me, making the stew she taught me to make.

I'm so sorry. In my sentimentality, I didn't stop to think about how in the way the grave was. I didn't consider that the space I used for a beloved elder's grave was wasted. I only thought that it was what she would have wanted; a proper burial near our farm.

#39 Re: Main Forum » Steam: I've decided to do it » 2018-09-25 13:39:34

On 7:   

I thought it was wierd that your install file defaults to the location of the file, rather than an explicit location in program files. That could be why people are losing their install; they're looking for it in the program files directory, where it should be, but it's in their downloads folder.

#40 Re: Main Forum » (Story) The crown must pass on » 2018-09-25 13:27:58

Russames wrote:

Isint this supposed to be in the story section, I don’t mind just curious.

The user stories board is locked, as far as I can tell. As I understand it, that board has to have Jason or a mod transfer the post to it from somewhere else. I don't see any place dedicated to us writing stories.

#41 Re: Main Forum » Can we change recipe for pine panel? » 2018-09-24 17:19:54

Bean plants could have a byproduct of a Vine left behind after all the beans are picked. Braided vines can make a sturdy enough rope. So, maybe have 3 vines in a pile, use hand to make vine rope? And since vine rope has a fairly limited time before it hardens in place, you could need to use it fairly quickly before it becomes "hardened vine rope" and becomes useless, except to chop up into kindling.

#42 Re: Main Forum » Eve Pharo vs Lisa Pharo » 2018-09-24 16:44:09

You...

I...

Wow.

Ok, I can't even respond to that. And I probably shouldn't, in case a mod takes your comment accusing me of being superfun and evading his ban seriously, and decides to ban me before checking IPs. So I won't. So have fun thinking I'm superfun, I guess.

Just do me a favor, and read some of my other posts and topics before you start slinging wild accusations at me again.

#43 Main Forum » (Story) The crown must pass on » 2018-09-24 16:16:47

ShadouFireborn
Replies: 5

I began life as a shepherd. Shepherd East. My grandmother was an eve who had come into a dead town. There were no other inhabitants than my grandmother, her kids, and grandkids.

My sister... we don't know what happened to her. She disappeared and we never saw her again. And my mother tried for more girls. But there were only us boys. And then my mom got too old to have any more kids, and we all decided to pack up and leave. Look for a new town. Pass on the crown to another worthy girl, even if she wasn't of our lineage. If we could find another Eve, we could help her build anew.

And so we travelled. We loaded up a cart with baskets of pies. We each carried a basket of pies. My mother had a backpack full of pies. And we left the dead, cursed city behind. Perhaps another Eve will be born to the city, and have lots of girls and break the curse? That would be a nice thought. But we wouldn't see it. Because we left.

And so we travelled. We were named East, so we travelled generally west. And damned if the curse from that town didn't follow us, because it didn't take long for my brother to be bit by a rattlesnake.

Mom killed the rattlesnake in retaliation, but we hadn't thought to bring any medical supplies with us, so there was nothing we could do but say goodbye. We divvied up his remaining pies between us, as many as we could carry, and moved on.

Some ways later, the cart tipped. And wouldn't you know it, it was nowhere near any grassland. We had no hope of finding milkweed anywhere near enough to make it worth fixing the tipped cart. So my uncle got off the cart, and we divided as much of the remaining pies as we could carry between the three of us.

And then disaster hit. Mother was growing very old by then, but for some reason she thought it would be a good idea to attack another rattlesnake. I still don't know if it was senility, for further revenge for my brother, or if she'd just gotten tired of travelling. We said goodbye. The crown passed to me, her only remaining son. I took her backpack and remaining pies. I couldn't bring myself to wear it. It belongs to a worthy female and I... am not. So I took it with me, in my basket. We ate the last of a pie to make room for it. And Uncle and I travelled on.

And then Uncle died. I could see it coming, he was already very old. I think he might have actually been mother's older brother. It wasn't long after mother lost her fight with the snake. I already knew that I would be finishing this trip alone. But then, I didn't know how desolate it was going to be.

I carried as many pies as I could, filled mom's backpack with them and the crown, and moved on. And I travelled. For yalms and yalms I travelled, always to the north and west, just looking for any sign of other people. I decided to live off the land as best I could as soon as the pies in my basket were gone. I made a sharp stone, and carried it in my basket. When I found carrots or bardock, I carried them in my basket until I got hungry, and ate them first. When I found berries or onions, I ate them. And so I managed to nurse my dwindling supply of pies through the more desolate stretches of land.

And so I travelled. For yalms and yalms I travelled, always to the north and west, just looking for any sign of people.

And so I travelled. For yalms and yalms I travelled, always to the north and west, just looking for any sign of people.

And so...

I found something. There are rabbit families around here, and cactuses that have fruit. I searched in a wide circle around the area. And I found...

Graves.

I found the remains of what looked like a failed Eve's outpost. There was a kiln, and some domestic berry bushes. But... there were no people. Only graves. I moved on.

And so I travelled. For yalms and yalms I travelled, always to the north and west, just looking for any sign of people.

And... I'm getting old. It's getting harder to find the energy to move on. But the crown must pass on. I must find a worthy successor to the East family lineage before I die.

And so I travelled. But my pies are running out. More and more of my time is spent on foraging, rather than travelling. And I start to feel the first pangs of despair.

Is this nothing but a desolate wasteland? Is there nobody else out there? I cry out against the wind. I curse fate, for failing to give my mother the daughter she needed. I curse myself, for the sin of having been born male.

The crown must pass on. But... there is nobody to pass it to.

Nobody at all.

I still cannot wear the crown. But I cannot continue. I stop in a little grassland. I'm surrounded by milkweed. In my despair, I can still take a moment to marvel at the sheer amount of milkweed I'm surrounded by. They're all flowering, like they were expecting me to arrive here.

Like they were expecting me to die here.

I can't go on. My energy is spent. I clutch mother's crown in my hands and cry. I curse fate once more for ending the East family lineage. And then... I lie down.

Death is... not as cold as I thought it would be. Perhaps... I tried hard enough? Am I not being punished for my failure to pass the crown?

Mother... I'm so sorry.

#44 Re: Main Forum » OHOL Discord? » 2018-09-24 02:07:39

That's not a discord invite, and doesn't take me to any active server.

#45 Re: Main Forum » New player, loving the game » 2018-09-24 02:02:57

MultiLife wrote:

Heyo! I wonder if you were that one blonde man some days ago who was looking at people making pies, the one I ushered to place mutton on crusts so you'd get to do stuff with your own hands too. big_smile

Probably not, since I only started the game last night. I've been loving it, though. Mostly. I did get to see three murders in three lives in less than an hour and a half earlier today. That was a little disheartening to see. I don't know if it was three different murderers, or the same person that was simply getting into the same towns as me and murdering. It's a little disheartening to think that there are people that play this game that will grief and murder and otherwise just ruin things for no other reason than to destroy.

It's easier to destroy than it is to create. These people are destroying the work of generations, just because they can. One person can, in a matter of minutes, destroy what has taken dozens of people hours to build. And they don't see anything wrong with it. They like to do it even. They fiercely defend their right to destroy. They'll do whatever it takes to get around any measures in place to prevent them from doing so.

It's a rather sad statement about human nature, and what we're willing to do... even eager to do... when there are no real consequences to our actions.

#46 Main Forum » OHOL Discord? » 2018-09-24 01:50:20

ShadouFireborn
Replies: 4

I read something in one of these topics about there existing an One Hour One Life discord. However, my best efforts to find one on the site have not yielded any invite links anywhere. Is there actually an official or unofficial OHOL discord, or was I reading misinformation?

#47 Re: Main Forum » Eve Pharo vs Lisa Pharo » 2018-09-24 01:38:35

She said, she said. 'Nuff said. This isn't going anywhere, and I'm surprised it's still going and hasn't been shut down by a mod yet. They've already started handing out warnings, yet both sides are still going at it. It was two days ago. It doesn't matter anymore. Chill out and let it go.

#48 Re: Main Forum » Mobile game? » 2018-09-24 01:33:16

Stylingirl wrote:

...since OHOL is open source it's not illegal for them to do so and Jason does not mind that it exists.

Depending on the license Jason used for his open source, that may or may not be true. GPL 3.0 requires that anyone that modifies and distributes the program also does so under the GPL 3.0 license, which prohibits commercial use (must be released freely) and also requires that anyone distributing the program also make their source code available. Since Jason is the copyright holder, he can charge whatever he wants for his software and source. If it's under GPL 3.0, though, nobody else can charge anything for it and MUST provide source.

So, the question is what license Jason used?

#49 Re: Main Forum » Mobile game? » 2018-09-24 01:24:30

I see it. I have the same question. The game looks completely identical, except with some UI differences due to being on mobile. Dual Decade also has another game on the play store called "Dash or Defend", so it's very likely that it's not by Jason himself, since I haven't seen anything about Jason having another game he's working on.

So that leaves the question of: Did Jason approve his source to be modified, and used commercially on the google play store? If he didn't, this is clear copyright violation.

#50 Main Forum » New player, loving the game » 2018-09-23 11:32:24

ShadouFireborn
Replies: 12

This game is just an amazing concept. It's unfortunate that some of the community seems hell bent on ruining the experience for the rest, but trolls will troll, unfortunately.

I have been a berry farmer, and lived my life taking care of the giant sprawling berry farm constructed by generations past.

I have been a baker, taught to make mutton pies, and fed my family with said mutton pies... Until the bear got in the kitchen and I learned the hard way that waving a knife at a bear will do nothing to harm it. At least the girls got away...

I have been the daughter of an Eve, and had the misfortune of only birthing sons. At least my sister had a couple of daughters. One of them was even still alive when I was killed by a snake I didn't notice until it was too late.

I have been the oldest son of an Eve that found herself in a dying outpost. We explored the place, and found everything we could need. Farms. Bakery. Livestock. There was even a hospital. There were even a few living people there... All men. And so we moved in. I took over the bakery. One of my brothers tended the livestock. My sister kept the berry bushes. And as the last remnants of the previous lineage grew old and died, my mother's lineage picked up the fallen torch and carried it. I buried my mother when her time came, and when my own time was up I laid down next to her grave, and said goodbye to my grand nephew who I had given my hat to.

The short lives you live in this game are amazing. I've been part of such wonderful stories in the short time I've had this game, and look forward to being part of many more. I hope to see some of you in game. Maybe we can start writing our stories together.

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