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#26 Re: Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-07 21:36:26
Hey y'all I'm the griefer-killer. I was the lady who killed him and I knew it from the start pretty much that he was trying to grief town but there was so little I could do to go against it. At first I tried to take over the smith by force making tools but I could tell he was determined to make more knives since he made a second hammer as soon as I took it away for a minute.
I do remember a lady stealing the hammer from me, and me having to make one more lol
I also took all the knives laying around and put em into a box closed just to see him grab em and lay on ground again.
I also do remember that. I wanted to create more temptations of someone else griefing. I didn't realize why all those knives kept disapearing 
Then the murder happened and I was done with it. I grabbed one of the knives and starred at the forge for a minute. As soon as I saw him make another blade blank I looked at him said "okay" then stabbed him. Then was standing still explaining that he made like 10 knives to grief town but a lady jumped on the avenge train and stabbed me immediately. Stood still continuing to explain and whishing them luck. I got cursed few times? idk. It didn't matter because I did good and I barely ever get cursed so I didn't and wouldn't end up in donkey town. After reading this though, killers are fine it spices things up but low profile griefers that I spot everyday are the worst, especially after reading his motives.
yea i do admit it absolutely wasn't a good thing to do. And kudos to you for being the only player with a brain. Nobody else ever suspected i was griefing other than you.
Anyways my apologies to you, and hopefully all this hate they gave me make you feel a bit better 
#27 Re: Main Forum » Okay I've had it for now . . . 3 games, 3 griefers » 2018-12-07 21:14:49
Griefing an eve camp is definitely a big dick move. I've never seen that happen before. Griefers usually do that to big cities.
Hopefully that shovel spammer wasn't inspired by my earlier post. I feel like you got pretty unlucky, i don't encounter griefers that often.
#28 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 19:24:18
You can be rolling in food but still starving for baskets, and having mutton cluttering everything because people are spamming compost for milkweed farm or whatever. It's not about the food. Baking bread and cooking mutton is about clearing the clutter. Lack of open space in work areas makes you take longer walks to do anything, which adds up to a lot of time lost. Calories are not the most valuable resource in OHOL, seconds are.
I mean the end objective of the game is probably to create the best future you can for future generations, so they survive too. Leaving a tons of food in theory is a good way to do that. Because in theory (and really, in theory), people aren't supposed to die of starvation in a town with food everywhere in it.
#29 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 18:48:55
Btw guys i actually think you are both right in a way. Dogs IS a feature of the game and calling someone a griefer just because he built a part of the tech tree isn't very fair. But lionon is also right that dogs are purely just a way to hurt the town and a really good way to grief in a twisted way. The best solution to this issue is for Jason to create some uses for the dogs.
#30 Re: Main Forum » Cannot kill constantly moving killers . . . » 2018-12-07 17:59:12
That happened to me once. I was a griefer and killed some old guy. He ran to the nursery, got fixed up, and ran after me. But then, i was dancing between 2 tiles and he couldn't kill me. Eventually he gave his knife to another person and that other person managed to kill me. I think that if the griefer dance perfectly, you simply can't kill him, you need him to make a mistake.
#31 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 17:23:23
No, seriously there is *no* legitimate use of dogs in the game on the one hand and a major griefers tool on the other hand. There is no balance, if e.g. chihuahuas would at least be a permanent decorative entity, but no they need to be fed to continue their life cycle. The difference is, I don't mind anybody doing bonsais...
If Jason wants them to be something for good intentioned town folk, either remove mean pit bulls or put in a good use that balances out the danger. If all they actually do is being there for griefers, because griefers are supposed to be part of the game to make it interesting, I'll assume you are one the moment you feed mutton to a wolf.. and apply my anti-griefing reactions... made it the more "interesting"?
The sociopaths are infact the griefers that get a power kick by seeing a village/town fall due to their action.
I think its not a bad idea for jason to add an use to dogs.
Pit Bull: Protection against bears
Poodle: Goose hunting, can bring back some goose in town.
Chihuahua:
Dachshund: Brings back rabbits
Airedale: Protection against wild animals, except bears.
Beagle: Can eat bones remains from old graves, as well as sheep bones
Collie: Will bring baby animals close to your home marker
German Shepherd: Will attack anyone that kills someone from your lineage, except lineage members.
Schnauser: Creates "dog dung" which has same use as sheep dung.
#32 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 17:12:17
There is no reason to run out of plates. Make more plates!
Mutton growing faster than spend is people doing too much berries and not enough baking.
When i am the shepherd, i can literally INFEST the town of mutton meat everywhere. Its nearly impossible to bake faster than i can produce meat (and even if you fast enough, you would run out of plates). When i am the baker, the issue is i quickly run out of plates. But tbh once you have 20+ mutton pies stored up, the correct thing to do isn't to produce more plates, its to do more useful things, such as creating a nursery, making more roads, adding horse carts, creating clothes, etc.
#33 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 17:08:06
Bread is better than mutton pie because it uses more grain per plate. If you're running out of plates and there's a ton of mutton and wheat, you're better off making bread and roast mutton than pies. That and mutton generally accumulates faster than it's spent, so trying to pie it all is a Sisyphean task. And leaving it just laying around cluttering tiles reduces efficiency of everything.
Bread is essentially 8x8 food, for 64 total. 4 mutton pies is 4x4x15, for 240 total. Same amount of wheat used. Now assuming you cooked those 4 raw mutton for 4x12, that still means 48+64 = 112 vs 240, very ineffective. Now about the argument that you are "saving plates"... Well 4 breads is 256 food and 4 mutton pie is 240 food, so that doesn't feel like a big plate saving there. And tbh its not necessary to have this many pies at the same time.
#34 Re: Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-07 16:28:39
I'd just recommend killing yourself if you get OP's surname. It's not worth playing with trolls and certainly not worth passing down their lines.
Tbh just to clarify, i am not someone that is trolling every games. I did it maybe 2-3 times out of 200+ hours of play. I didn't realize it was such a bad thing since it seems to be intended by the dev (donkey town, etc).
The intent of this post wasn't to get everyone to hate me, its more to raise awareness that hey, don't always insta curse a murderer, listen to his story, because sometimes he has a good reason.
#35 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 16:19:25
I taught knives are indestructible.
Oh i could be wrong about that. But even then, 4 mutton pies > 1 bread.
#36 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 16:17:21
Oh yes, people throwing a flat rock on the fire you just made to roast a rabbit/goose are terrible. The bread thing can have one exception if the berry farm is currently broken (out of whatever reason) *one* bread for kids and elder is reasonable even if you have mutton. Or yes people that think it's a good idea to maintain two large fires at the same time...
Other thing:
* Eating carrots.
Just to clarify, i'm talking about towns where there is so much raw mutton that they will never run out of it. In this case, mutton pies are just SO MUCH BETTER than bread its not close. Its essentially 1 bread vs 4 mutton pies. Bread also use up your knives.
#37 Re: Main Forum » my dontdothisorelse list » 2018-12-07 16:06:57
* When you are about to smith, and you position like 3 separate big rocks, and then they stack the 3 big rocks together -_-
* When you are about to put dough on plates, so you position 4 separate plates, and they stack them together -_-
* When you don't have rabbit bones yet, so you make a secondary fire to cook the rabbit on hot coals, and they either make it a second big fire, or put a big rock on it really fast as soon as its hot coals.
* When you bring berries to make them into seeds, and they eat the berries
* People who ask for "job?" but don't know how to do anything, so even if you do give them a job they won't be able to do it.
* People who stand there watching you work for extended period of time.
* People who waste time chatting about useless shit.
* People who abandon their kids and force you to feed them, without asking for it first.
* People who make bread or carrot pies when we have like 50 raw muttons sitting there.
#38 Main Forum » Server 1 vs Server 3 » 2018-12-07 15:36:47
- Floofy
- Replies: 1
So far, i had never touched the configs of the game. Yesterday, i decided to try out playing on server 3. I am not sure if i got lucky, but i noticed a SIGNIFICANTLY higher level of play.
My first game i was Eve.
http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2274667
Carl Honor died of yellow fever, but before that, he clearly knew what he was doing.
Future Honor was potentially the best daughter i ever had. She was potentially better than me. Unfortunately, after she made bows and arrows (yes, bows and arrows this early), she died to the wolf she shot.
Unfortunatly, the line died out since i only got a single girl that died...
Second game, i was a girl in gen 3
http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2276210
My uncle, Ishmael Victory, was also really good. Me and him made a bunch of rabbit/carrots pie. We also had really good teamwork at the forge (we both were good smiths).
But again, line died out since all my kids died of starvation (even tho we had mass pies and a lot of berries....)
Overall, seemes like server 3 had higher level of play, but i'm not convinced it was truly worth it since we had way less kids. But in a way, its less frustrating to lose to no babies, than to lose due to people being retarded.
#39 Re: Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-07 15:10:08
The issue is, community has to learn a bit, people are cursing to fast when they see a murder without knowing whats happening and cursing to few people who are deliberately griefing by intentional other disruptive behavior (like you massproducing knifes and hoping for the drama to unfold)
And honestly the griefers in the game already taught me to have very low tolerance. Too much already seen this "innocent" act. "What sir? Sry didn't know one isn't supposed to shear the last sheep". Only to see them do it in 2 minutes again and then again. Or like clearing deserving their knifing and then run around "curse XY he is a killer!!!".
The thing is, even BAD griefers who simply take a knife, and kill a random person in front of everyone, when YOU kill them back, its not rare for at least one person to curse you because they didn't see what happened. At least half the player base can't see the banana right next to them and die of hunger, so asking them to keep track of who did what is a lot to ask. So when you are a less obvious griefer, its very hard to convince people of it.
#40 Re: Main Forum » Question about respawning in your town » 2018-12-07 14:53:57
Floofy wrote:Tarr wrote:Eve isn't locked to a lineage as she starts it. As Eve you are able to be born to your own children so this is why you were able to spawn back to your lineage without facing the ban.
But why is it i usually can't do that? Is it the same rule if i died of old age? Its the first time i managed to be born to my own childrens.
You have to remember that there are a bunch of families and women you can be born to on a server. Old age only matters as Eve and that only goes as far to make sure you spawn into another village. Sometimes old age Eves return to the same village over and over, or other times they'll just be sent to different villages each Eve life.
Best bet is to always reach old age as Eve so you have that chance to return home and help your family.
I actually understood what happened in my shower. I was eve and 36 years old, which means i only played in that line for 22 minutes, so of course, no lineage ban. When i die of old age at 60, it seems like the lineage ban kicks in.
#41 Re: Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-07 14:48:25
Sabotaging other lineages while playing as a child of these to help "your" lineage is just terrible and a way to break the game completely as it is, should this become a trend.
I also realized that when you "murder" or get "murderered", it seems like that time doesn't count toward clearing your 90 minute lineage ban, so apparently not only was it shitty of me to do it, but it was counter intuitive. Btw i'd like to clarify i'm not a constant griefer, i rarely do that. From what i understood, its an "intended" part of the game by the devs that's why i did it.
#42 Re: Main Forum » My longest Eve line so far » 2018-12-07 14:46:27
I was there at the end of this line - I posted about it here: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4716
Yeah, getting no girls and just knowing the town is about to die sucks.
Damn that sucks. I kinda figured the line probably died for that reason, since its almost always the reason 
#43 Re: Main Forum » My longest Eve line so far » 2018-12-07 14:44:43
oh hey, I was roan, your grandson! I was the designated iron runner from the moment I could grab a basket, and brought back at least two stacks worth, before I got too old and realised I couldn't make another run. i gathered abode from the stumps that were around, but knew I couldn't finish the pen either, I was too old for even that. so I gave the bp my mother had gave me in my teens to an abandoned lil boy in town that I had fed and cared for when he had cried for food with no women around but stayed on the desert tile he was placed on, and told him my last words before running off to die to save food for the village. glad to see it made it so far! it had a good start, and you being able to return makes things awesome!
hahaha that's funny because if you look at my earlier post, i stated i made almost all the iron tools and "made a pen". Well yea, there was like 20 adobe there. Never understood why 
And there was plenty of iron. Good job
#44 Re: Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-06 21:41:38
Dishonorable. I may think twice about helping the Honor family now.
I hate how difficult getting iron is, so wasting it on knives just saddens me. Poor iron runners, you guys don't deserve your iron being wasted like this.
Oh well.
lol my apologies, i do admit that wasn't nice. I actually very rarely grief, i usually try my best to help the towns.
And you are right, especially since our iron runner was pretty good.
Well at least pretty sure that town never ran out of knives
#45 Main Forum » Griefer's killer being cursed » 2018-12-06 21:19:35
- Floofy
- Replies: 16
90% of my games i'm actually a try hard that does his best to help the town, but occasionally, after dying of old age as an eve, and having to wait 90 mins to help my town, i sometimes like to troll a bit, to hopefully send more people to help my own town. Yesterday i tryed a new strategy... I was the smith, and was actually being a really efficient smith, but... i kept pretending we needed more Knives. So i made knives, after knives, after knives. After like 5 knives, someone came and said enough knives, we need an hoe. And that person kinda forced my hand and made an hoe. Atfer that he left, and i resumed to producing Knives. Then i would literally drop those knives randomly in the town, hoping someone starts griefing for me.
Finally, one mother actually killed a kid. We killed her back, to avenge the kid. A bit later, when i made like my 7th knife, one lady had enough. she took the knife and killed me, saying i was a griefer by making only knives. Then i cursed her, and ran around the town screaming she is a murderer. A bunch of people cursed her and she got killed lol
All of this being said, this civ lived on for like 15 more gens, and that little griefing didn't do much.
#46 Re: Main Forum » Racist gang war ruins town » 2018-12-06 21:02:55
asking for full on pvp war in this game, is a bit like asking counter strike devs for a hunger/farming/town building mecanics in CS GO. It makes very little sense lol
#47 Re: Main Forum » Weed and Summer family - One Pond Town and the Paradise (screenshots!) » 2018-12-06 20:26:35
How did you respawn in your old town???
#48 Re: Main Forum » Question about respawning in your town » 2018-12-06 19:36:15
Eve isn't locked to a lineage as she starts it. As Eve you are able to be born to your own children so this is why you were able to spawn back to your lineage without facing the ban.
But why is it i usually can't do that? Is it the same rule if i died of old age? Its the first time i managed to be born to my own childrens.
#49 Re: Main Forum » Question about respawning in your town » 2018-12-06 19:29:16
Floofy wrote:gabal wrote:If the server had fewer then 50 (?) people playing lineage ban doesn't work.
So playing on a server with fewer than 50 people could allow me to bypass that right? Any idea which servers usually are below 50, but not empty?
Lineage ban kicks in around 10~15 if I remember correctly more leaning towards 10. The 50 thing is related to how long the lineage ban lasts.
Basically >50 players the lineage ban is at its max (90 minutes played time iirc) while every player under that count lowers the ban timer until you finally hit <10 where the lineage doesn't come into effect even if you murder, /die, etc.
Floofy wrote:Also how do you guys explain i got a power outtage at 36, and managed to respawn in that town very shortly after. How does it work?
Was it to the same family? The only way to make it back after 30+ is for two lineages to be in the town or you to be off lineage ban.
So I'd say you were likely born to a second family line in the town but obviously I can't be for sure.
its really odd. Here is the line:
This is me as Baani (that's when i reconnected): http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2261680
This is me as Eve, i had a power outtage: http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2260808
Maybe the server had fewer than 50 and the age 36 was actually considered to not be enough to the ban???
#50 Re: Main Forum » Question about respawning in your town » 2018-12-06 19:14:26
If the server had fewer then 50 (?) people playing lineage ban doesn't work.
So playing on a server with fewer than 50 people could allow me to bypass that right? Any idea which servers usually are below 50, but not empty?
Edit: I answered my own questions: http://onehouronelife.com/reflector/ser … ion=report
So atm, it seems like none of the servers would truly allow me to do that lol