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The updateLog is unclear most of the time. We need something better - possibly player made.
Like "version history" page on Wiki? Would be nice. Thats where I've spent most of my time for games like Minecraft of Factorio.
Sugerowałbym unikanie zdrobnień oraz zgrubień w tłumaczeniu.
Np:
Wiadro, a nie Wiaderko
Marchew, a nie Marchewka
Oprócz tego gdy rozpoczynałem tłumaczenie, dużym problemem były dla mnie nazwy niektórych narzędzi lub ich części:
Froe?
Froe Head, Ax Head, Shovel Head, etc.
Wydaje mi się, że nie mamy odpowiednika dla "Tool Head" lub nie jest to nazwa stosowana w mowie codziennej więc nie jest mi znane to słowo.
I nominate Jorium, and support Exbeer as well.
Don't even try that Shadow. My excentric ways of relaying messages to people are not popular here.
If people like URSAMAJOR03 became mods, we could basically say goodbye to freedom of speach and intelectual talks. I'm against this nomination.
I'm fine with Rodrik, TheLimeyDragon, Commoners.
project is doomed to fail in its current form.
See, that's what the game is also about. You will try even if your statistic is telling you otherwise, it's survival...
I've said it already so many times. Jason is sadist. But we're bunch of masochists.
You come across as a particularly stupid asshole. Yet, I doubt you think yourself as part of the half of the RL population that should be shot at sight. Funny how that works.
Actually - I already consider myself a parasite of the society. Thats why I wasan't even mad when doctors told me I'll live to only to my 30s, early 40s max. I considered suicide three times in my teen ages. Yet some RL trolls kept me alive so I made it my life motto to bring as many idiots down to hell with me as I can before finish line. So its better for the future generations. I'm not going to puke candies and shit rainbows. I've seen the lowest depths and rot of the elites. I'm realist. Life if mud, blood and pain. But thats not the topic of the discussion here, right? So stop focusing on me as a person and start thinking critically about the topic at hand.
Good job getting your point across and helping what you blasted OP for!
We will see some of this more often now...
Shock therapy. You can consider me mental therapist. TheRapist. Mental, The Rapist.
Most of the things I posted are obvious and are already being done. By listing so many of them at once and adding proper message - it shows the problem better even to idiots. It makes you think even if you're not used to doing that. Otherwise we would still have mellow ****** who think "naaa, it's fine!".
Also in response to TyrantNomad @ Discord - Today at 12:54 PM
do you really think joriom's suffered through everything he's listed?
I suffered to 23 out of 30 ways I listed. With over 100 ingame hours already it wasn't so hard to stumble uppon them.
Some of them are simply new and some are very specyfic and you don't have many advanced enough civs yet to get trolled like that.
Also remember that the best way of prevennting something is to think of every possibility. Good and bad. Who and why would do something? Try to get into their mindset for a while.
It's the same in computer science field in which I'm deeply involved. Think about every possible way something can break so you can foolproof your project.
The biggest point to make is: *if we share these methods and find an effective anti-grief, it Does not matter if they use Them Then, WE EORKED TOGETHET AND FIGIRED OUT THE ANTI-GRIEF METHOD
No. There is no counter-play for those without additional game features. And those features would be against the spirit of the game. Basically - with current state of humanity, this project is doomed to fail in its current form.
I'll just drop that for you then - you might be interested. Thats one of the official servers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zB_atXQAW8
"Please submit examples of people who have griefed you, your town, or others."
Yes, very subtle - very nuanced. I can clearly see how you've completely mistaken the point of the thread.
So basically in other words: "If you got grieffed in a new, creative way that is not yet known to masses - lets share it with more people so it gets more popular". No matter how you look at it, the same shit. And you're just trying to execuste stupidity with more stupidity. Thats exactly why I believe over half of RL population should be shot at sight because of their stupidity.
So, we want to educate trolls now, do we? Ok, so lets try my brain out to make this game the living hell for everyone because dumbass decided its a good thread to start on forum! Being dumb and useless in game is not enough for you? You want to glow with your lack of inteligence on public forum too? No problem. Lets go to hell together, I'll enjoy the sights! I might even go for an autograph from my idol, Satan, made with blood on my soul.
- Stakes + Shovel. Dig up thrash pits around everything that is of use. Buildings, milkweed farms, doors of buildings, entrie villages, single tools. Oh, btw - if you place 2 thrash pits on both sides of doors - you can't open/close them anymore (if part of a wall). Since stakes are not used in most building recepies and even if they are - they're unlimited resource - THE DOOM VILLAGE.
- The same as above but with Adobe Oven Base. Place adobe, hit with rock, repeat. Done.
- Wheat seeds. They're unlimited to pluck from wheat. Take one - plant everywhere instead of carrots. It's not food, its not rope. Its useless in most cases in large quantities. They consume soil too! BINGO!
- Wells? Dry them up! 20 wells to prevent you from doing that? Build ONE adobe wall. Pick water, use on wall, wait 2 sec, repeat. Infinite water sink.
- You see Steel Ax? Chop every single tree in sight! Especially maples, junipers and all the usefull ones! No more starting fire in the willage because leaf and tinder will despawn before they get to willage. No more straight branches. No more kindling.
- Wooden roads and you can see an adze? Just run around with rightclick galore. Rebuilding them with stakes + round stone will be a pain and will take few life spans most likely!
- Domestic Berry Bushes? Pick a berry or two. No more fertile soil for an epoch. If they don't notice - even for longer. They're not around? Try picking every single berry and dont water the bush! (PRO TIP: You can collect all berries with bowl, wait just one hunger box and eat them all at once to empty the bowl)
- Milkweed farm? RIGHTCLICK! Just watch out for those fruiting ones - so you don't collect them at the correct stage by a mistake! Best stage is the first one with just leaves - so even if it changes during picking up its still flowerinng and will die.
- You can see snares and single rabbit holes? Snare them all! No more fur.
- You see a lot of thread or rope stored? Turn all ropes into bordrills or tied long shafts! That will teach them!
- Sharp stone + wild carrot plant = no more wild carrot seeds. Works perfectly with the carrot farm destruction!
- You have rope, some berry bushes and carrots? They don't have knife? Win for you! Lead lamb to the town and feed it! You can feed some offspring too! The more sheep the better. No more carrots in the area. EVER.
- Oh, did I mention that sheep mate like crazy? Dead lambs everywhere! No more free tiles around!!!
- Bear caves are your natural friend. Poke one. Poke two. Poke ten. Lead your new friends to the town! Remember you can do that even as an infant!
- You're done but they still have nice clothes around? Just put them on and die on a farmland with no room around you. No grave, no clothes back.
- Oh, btw. Dry water ponds ftw! Without water - no goose. Without goose - no steel file. Without file - no blade for knife. And lets face it - they will never hit you with a bow.
- Shovel + Berry Bush is a classic. We love them mobile plants.
- Are they usig bowls to to water plants? Put carrot, use sharp stone. No more water for village.
- Water pouches then? Just put them in basket and hind behind trees i marshes. They'll never find them anyway.
- Getting rid of hatchets and fire bows is obvious, right?
- Or just get a flint and tip every bow fire with it!
- Are they getting organised and have storage of but logs? Milion mallets incomming, just get an adze.
- But logs but no adze in sight? Bow saw is good too - make milion wooden discs! Even better - destack them!
- Flint deposit? Smash them all, move them around. No more spaces!
- Update crewed up your way to eat every single pie/carrot in town? Just put clothes on and star a big fire! You'll loose hunger 10 times faster!
- You have problem with adobe building? You need 3 tiles empty near you. Place 2 water sources and pick around you. If you have fast hands you don't need any help to tear them down!
- Remember that reeds despawn only if you pick them up. Cut 'em. Pick 'em. Leave 'em. No more reeds for baskets/fertalizer for an hour!
- Btw - just a few baskets and big carrot farm? Water them all! Some of them will seed for sure, and if they don't - just plant wheat/milkweed. Don't remember to collect milkweed later. In the wrong state. Do they need bowls? Are they just starting the kiln to dry the wet ones? Just make them all plates!
- Smith just started the forge? Litter area as much as possible and steal the flat rock. No metalworkig for him and charcoal is gone.
- You're famale and they have limited resources? Try to hog as much food as possible and breastfeed every child possible. They'll help you to eat the town out! Trust me - ignorance of noobs if your best tool!
Did I forget something? Please fill up the missing ways. Troll guidebook v1.0 will be done soon. Thats what thread autor wanted, right? RIGHT!?
Checked the timers,
All seeds despawn Except for carrots seeds, wild or domestic, its almost like the game is trying to say we need to farm XD
Almost as if someone invented those seeds to be like that.... As if they were DESIGNED to be like that... the inteligent design thing, you know? The god? AKA Jason?
Well, I just thought about a roundabout ways to make wells usefull without any "water ammount indicator" on them. Need to test it out though.
It goes something like this:
SOLUTION I
Preparation: Put a well and two cisterns next to each other. Usage: Before taking water from well, always fill it up to brim from cisterns so you know exactly how much water is left in well. Collect up to half (or 2/3) od well water suply and put it in cisterns. Deep wells are better because you can collect more and leave them for longer to refill. Water farms only from cisterns.
SOLUTION II
Preparation: Build well (or few of them) next to a pond. Usage: Collect water from well always at the same time when you pick it up from pond. Pond collects water at the same rate so it will be the well indicator. Deep wells get water at the same rate but are less prone to getting dry due to higher water ammount.
SOLUTION III (mix of I and II)
Put wells next to ponds. Before collecting water, refill wells from ponds up to full.
Cons:
Easy to troll well dry killing entire settlement.
Any interference from outside can be deadly.Assumptions:
You can't overfill the well like a pond.
LOL, Jorium you savage!
Give me the wolf crown for I am the Savage
Give rosden the carrot crown for he is the dunce.
From someones calculation - it would take around 17 real life years to reach the end of map while going by foot.
the community is already working on the map problem so I dont see it as being implemented into the game at all. A compass might though.
Compass? In a top down game when north is always up? Yeah. Good idea. Genius.
First of all, I don't like that way you structured the list. "DONT: 1) ... 2)... 3)..." can easily be missread if someone missed the "DONT" - and he will basically proceed to DO all those things. For the sake of making sure idiots read that correctly you could have used: "DONT: 1) DONT x 2) DONT y 3) DONT z" etc. And yes - IMHO most of the current RL world population is idiots who deserve nothing but bullet.
Not to the points:
DON'T (crucial):
- Eat berries in case of other food source (or leave at least 4 berries, so a bowl can be filled). -> Used in composting and cooking.W O O D C U T T I N G DON'T (crucial):
- Chop down all trees. -> Prevent depletion. Chop down far away trees or ones you have many of. For firewood, the swamp trees seem best. Added bonus: some don't give a butt log you have to deal with.C O O K I N G DON'T (crucial):
- Take all the berries for cooking. -> Make sure some are used for making compost.H U N T I N G DON'T (crucial):
- Snare a rabbit hole without babies. -> Rabbits won't come back. [need confirmation]
Now you need full bush of 6 berries - so eat NONE of them - or if in dire situation - try to eat from bush that is already missing some.
Never chop usefull trees. Your camp will expand faster than you think and you will need those trees sooner or later. Look for pines and swampland trees. Also: you have something inverted with butt logs - they are the most usefull part of the tree. You need them for carts, buckets, wooden floors, etc.
Taking berries for cooking is a crime. ALWAYS. Just dont do that or you'll get stabbed. Berries are for compost. Not for pies. Go get them rabbits/carrots if you really need to kill your village with pies.
Snared rabbits without family do not come back. You're left with abandoned rabbit hole. Thats confirmed.
Check out out village. Maybe you'll get some good ideas. Its not perfect but was a lot of fun to build and works well for us.
https://youtu.be/7zB_atXQAW8
UPDATE: Dry wells regain water after 10 hours. So just build enough of them so you're never screwed totaly if you screw up the measurement on few of them.
The only purpose for Sheep eating your carrots from rows is... need to contain the Sheep. Otherwise people would have 30 Sheeps running around the town because that would be easier than use time and resources to build the pen. When you have real threat of them griefieng though - you contain them. Just like in real life.
Maps are for sure going to be implement in the future. We're not at that technology point yet though. If you want to help others (and yourself in the future) to find your settlements - build roads in all directions, leave landmarks or deforest big areas of marshes so its clear that some advanced civilization is nearby.
Joriom wrote:Or.... just simply use boxes as replacement for fences so you can store items there (dead lambs, flece, feeding stuff, etc). On the North/South wall it even looks nice as part of the fencing.
Until some unscrupulous cousin's mouth starts watering at the prospect of their own easy handcart! And then poof, there goes your north fence. It's a good idea, but very risky.
They can still deconstruct the fence just byl right clickig on it to get long staight shaft - to start fire, make pine frame, make tool, to troll or simply by ignorange. So risks are the same. Btw, just make sure you have like 50 hand carts available everywhere.
Or.... just simply use boxes as replacement for fences so you can store items there (dead lambs, flece, feeding stuff, etc). On the North/South wall it even looks nice as part of the fencing.
Nop.
From God's mouth to our ears.
Sounds like you make Jasons Prophet out of me. Please don't
... experienced players should have no trouble finding another suitable area to create a new "city/town" as in real-life.
As already tested in Server 11 history - One Night One Town.