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It's interesting how the no-solo update (effectively removes killing) has combined with the homeland and family specialization updates (forcing families closer together). Everyone is closer together and clumped into a handful of towns, which greatly increases the effectiveness of cursing. Meanwhile, cursing has become the only way to address any kind of grievance with another player. Without the option to kill, people curse much more frequently and it's resulted in a LOT of innocent players in donkey town. Without being able to kill a griefer however, can we really balance curses properly? Either the griefers get away free and clear, or innocent players are condemned by curse abuse. There's no middle ground in no-solo. Posses simply don't work. Consider this: if a posse-sized group of griefers wanted to, they could easily banish any individual to donkey town by all cursing them. They could do this two times an hour every hour to anyone they want without anyone ever even knowing. Isn't that great.

You know what would have saved them?
Property fences!

We have the resources we need to stop griefers.
Hide inside a fence your whole life and they can't kill you!

Recently as a young adult I had +88 food pips overflowing from a full bar. I got hungry and ate several low-value yum foods in a row to multiply the bonus. Had 3 children without eating. The food rebalance doesn't feel too drastic with yum meta and an unbreakable chain.

Unfortunately people are still also munching berries and it's worse than ever. I see half naked adults eating SEVERAL bushes at once. Even if you try to talk to them they refuse to listen. Like what, you think I'm not gonna eat berries my whole life? What is this guy, an idiot? Every town has a four square of berries around the well at least, usually more. They're constantly refreshed and you get cursed even if you do manage to dig some up. Fencing them off doesn't work either, people want the berries so they'll never keep up a fence over time.

In general pein's right, these are just nerfs across the board. There's no right way to handle it. Fences don't help because the issue is systemic.

Murder mouth was a good middle ground between no-solo and instant-kill. With the posse system killing is effectively removed from the game. It was in the game for a reason, jason added it deliberately. If someone is being a blatant nuisance you should have a way to stop them. Posse system is too complicated for it to work as intended.

Murder mouth allowed a spectrum of force. You can flash a weapon. You can make murder mouth just for a second to threaten, stopping before the timer runs out. You can chase someone around then after they escape talk and make peace. At the very least, murder mouth meant running them off. In no-solo the greifer just stands there completely unaffected until somebody has to drop what they're holding to eat, then the crowd gets bored and wanders off.

Even with the homeland update nobody really *trades* they just travel around with horse carts gifting resources to all the villages.

Let's discuss the underlying issue here. Why don't people want to play eve?

What can we do to fix eve play and make it worthwhile again?

There's a basic issue of trust here. During a lifetime, you're lucky to find one or two trustworthy people in your town. Finding them usually takes a long time. It's not until you're 30 and you've seen your cousin Dave working hard on a few projects that you can trust him. Kids just haven't been with the town long enough to ever be trustworthy. Unless it's an exception like some boy who immediately runs to the forge to work on an engine at 5 years old there's no way to know.

So, it takes a lot of time to build trust. Property ownership only lasts an hour at most. By the time you find a successor, that's probably halved. The timing just doesn't work. Even with property, you can't pass it on with confidence. Blind luck is the only realistic way to choose a successor, and that opens it up to griefing or ineptitude. It's more likely you'll pass the sheep pen off to a griefer that's going to kill them all than someone responsible who cares enough to make it his occupation. Fence off the berries and your son will be some new player that just wanders off to ignore the responsibility.

Maybe if we could bless people, so we know who we can trust between lives...

In other words: kiss ass or get cursed.

Curse testo

That falls under the category of 'passively allow them to destroy the town' unfortunately.

Who's griefing comes down to who's the better liar. The thief had her shithead griefer friend Slinky to back her up so they made you the griefer. It doesn't matter that they were wrong. They lied better. That's what matters.

Make more quivers and fill them with arrows. Distribute them to interested parties. This keeps arrows safe in their inventory. Without food storage, they must stay close to town. Even if the player is low-skill, having them hold the items and linger in town is effective bear defense. They might die fighting the bear, but the bow and arrows are still right there. Or, they might kill the bear and have a fun, thrilling experience that leaves them feeling fulfilled. It's a win-win.