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Well fish, what can I say, this experience has changed me.
But in all seriousness, the new players aren't having fun when we won't feed them.
I'd rather not get into arguments here
Then don't be wrong.
I was online when this happened. The server did not shut down. No, every update does not force a wipe or a reset. I was born in a town with plenty of food. The kitchen was stocked full. By the time I died, the kitchen and the farm were both bare and babies were popping out like crazy.
The population skyrocketed to 130 and then the servers split. Now if you are on server1, yes you are on a fresh server, but bs2 was never wiped. There are people who are managing to get back to our old towns but they are stripped clean of food. All the old fams died out immediately when the wave of new players hit, about 12pm EST.
Those old towns could not handle this many new players. You will have, easily, 20 babies per life right now. No town can really handle that.
An old town someone posted to Discord.
The new update, race cars, has nothing to do with the problem right now. There was no change to Eve spawns. The game is on the front page of Steam and went on sale. Just a huge influx of new players is causing the state of the game we see now.
I think this was the life where you were white and you came to the kitchen asking me for timing belt. I figured you were making engine. You might have been dead by the time this guy was born though, idk.
to be honest out of all the towns I've been in, that town had the best yum supply
Yeesh, that town was rough.
Girl was Belle Catto. Guy was Readus Catto.
The guy you were helping was QuirkySmirkyIan I believe. Do you remember the black girl's name?
Pretty impressive. It's a madhouse out there tonight.
I think he's trolling.
>it is exactly the same as the car!
The delivery truck is way better than the car in every single way. That's the point.
People who think this won't be useful are crazy, but then again, sprinklers and plows are useful and we see how often that is used so they may have a point.
The biggest thing with griefers will be someone snatching your truck while you hop out to unload it/work. All unloading will need to be done behind property fence now, and it makes zoom mod even more important for elite players. We need to expand those leader pens a lot.
A key system could be an interesting solution to the griefer problem. Needing a "truck key" to use the truck would solve a lot of the potential problems griefers could raise with this thing, but ultimately, griefers gone grief.
We can imagine they would just pull the shirt to the side or lift it up. Women IRL do not undress when breastfeeding... It would not make much sense, especially from a gameplay perspective.
Lol, if I'm your kid, I'll do my best.
You're going to have to be the change you want to see then. Like I said, I've tried this before and people just don't use sprinklers.
I would if I saw one set up, but I've wasted my time enough setting them up only for them to be dismantled a few hours later.
Truly amazing.
I tried to make sprinklers a thing about a month ago and pretty much every veteran player has too. I have had perfect setups of 15+ sprinklers only to come back the next day and it was all gone. These were large mature towns as well.
The thing is that the average player doesn't know how to use them and doesn't see their value. The average player won't read this thread. The average player, one of the first things they learn is how to farm in 3x3 squares with hoes, so that is what they will do. For every player, this is a huge part of the game's content. Sprinklers and plows eliminate a lot of the game's content as a result. Sprinklers and plows really only provide content for the elite players, typically using zoom mod, who set up the sprinkler for the first time. After that, if the town were to actually use the sprinklers, there would be a lot less to do. Lastly, there are not very many elite players actively playing right now. Those that are have to struggle to keep the town alive from the never-ending tide of munchers and griefers. They don't have time to forge sprinklers all life and then set them up and then have no one to use them after they die.
Perhaps when we get new content that brings back more veteran players, we will see sprinklers used again, but there is another thing to consider. Sprinklers are very much like paved roads, in that, they are long objects that typically extend off screen but very easy to grief. I suspect if sprinklers actually became meta, they would just get constantly griefed and be more headache than they are worth. Not to mention that the sprinkler and plow must both be kept behind a property fence, making them another thing on the leader's plate. It's much easier to keep an eye on and much more difficult to grief the current farm meta.
Yes I came and got some of those skins and took them to Letizia fam.
I never said you shouldn't do it. I've farmed wolves before. Like I said this is the best farm I've seen of them yet.
My biggest concern was you leaving puppies behind and griefers would definitely use that but you are making sure they die, so it's pretty foolproof as well. Would be very hard for a griefer to farm pits while you're actively using it.
Don't wolves with puppies last forever? I thought you were planning on leaving pens with pups so that it could be continually farmed for future generations.
Yeah making sure the wolves die after you're dead definitely helps prevent griefing.
Like I said in game, the biggest risk is griefers using this to breed pitbulls, which is why most good players are going to immediately kill off the wolves. The one you built in Boomer town is empty already, for instance.
You could do this behind gates, but that's likely to turn even more heads if people see you doing it.
Unfortunately, pitbulls make dogs pretty much dead griefer tech. It's not worth the risk for slightly better hats.
Cool experiment though, and best wolf farm design I've seen.
So i'm gonna go burn some good ol' gasoline cya
Make sure you get a good whiff of the fumes.
Why would it not? Doesn't burning fuels made from oxygen increase oxygen levels?
Burning carbon fuels is just an oxidation reaction where O2 is being combined with carbon. CO2. So no, it consumes oxygen but the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere is tremendous, compared to the amount of CO2, and this doesn't have a major effect on the amount of oxygen, to my knowledge.
I can't be the only one who wants to see giant dragonflies, right?
Giant dragonflies need lots of oxygen and the oxygen levels are not going to increase from global warming.
The thing is, on a biological scale, this period won't last long if the PETM is anything to go by. In 100,000 years, the carbon will likely be sequestered by some biological form, likely on the bottom of the sea from gigantic algae blooms so life won't have a chance to radically evolve to a new environment and fill niches. What will happen is that there will be a great extinction event, which we are already in due to other anthropogenic influence, and the majority of modern species will die out. Once the world returns to equilibrium after we are gone, then life will evolve to fill the niche of whatever the state of the world is after we leave.
since more heat means more CO2 out of the oceans in the atmosphere.
Uh... the ocean is actually one of the great absorbers of CO2. CO2 and H2O make carbonic acid. It's what known as ocean acidification.
Here's how it works from NOAA:
Here's an article that estimates that the ocean has absorbed half of all anthropogenic CO2 produced. It also states that the we have already exhausted a total 1/3 of the ocean's potential to absorb this CO2 after which it will no longer act as a sink. This was in 2004.
It's like you dont even read the posts or try to understand how climat really works, since you're still talking about co2...
CO2 has a direct effect on global temperature as a greenhouse gas. I linked you evidence of the correlation above. CO2 goes up, temperature goes up. It's not that hard to understand.
It's almost as if the climate on earth has a way to regulate itself and adapt to change, almost like it's billions of years old, that's crazyyy
The climate on earth is not an organism that regulates itself or adapts... It reaches an equilibrium based on atmospheric composition and solar conditions. Right now the level of CO2 we are releasing is driving the equilibrium point up for global temperatures at a historic rate.
Nor does the earth care whether its equilibrium point is suitable for life. We are the ones who must adapt. We are the ones with the intelligence to comprehend what is happening. Some of us anyway...
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Well at least you accept that it is complicated.
jasonrohrer wrote:Wow, what a discussion!
If you're interested in looking at the actual smoke plume, this free satellite image service allows you to scroll through time.
dont see North Amerika, only see clouds...
The smoke plume is very obvious from around August 21st through August 26th. Appears to be thinning out yesterday. It's easier to see during daylight.
Clouds are white. The smoke is grey.