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Do read my post again.
The discussion is with people who say new players should be taught and the game provides all the tools to build a village with said new players in mind.
Same people go into full salt mode when their secluded heaven is "infested" by new player "noobs" and have no solution or way of handling them and suffer heavy losses.

I do have a solution, I've presented it many times before, just like others - this is not what this is about.
This is about showing the true face of the people saying that the the problem lies within the players. I could have been in their shoes, I've made plenty of mistakes - everybody does.

If I merely wanted to cause drama and "bait" - I could have said names here. That's not what this is about, this isn't personal, it's about finding the best way on moving forward.

If I have to repeat myself fine - the solution is fixing the game code, not the players.
I'm not saying this has to happen right now, or how exactly it has to happen (though I've supplied possible fixes I personally think would be adequate either as temp or permanent solutions) - it can even happen via a mod - the point is to make more people recognize or at least consider that that this is not a problem caused by "new players".
Why? Because it's derailing discussion on a completely meaningless tangent.
New players are not a problem, they are the life-force of games. They are the blood. Fighting against them is suicide.

What am I baiting? I'm just illustrating that a bunch of people on here predominantly care about how they are perceived by others, and people should beware as this type of behavior is very negative.
If you don't want to discuss that it's fine. I've redacted any names, as this should allow open discussion without pointing fingers and putting blame.

Putting on unacceptably high expectations on new players and then calling them bad names, whenever it's convenient, is the wrong way of doing things and it makes the game and community uninviting.
If the game doesn't get new players it's going to die out eventually - is that what you're trying to accomplish?

You skipped the most important rule:

RULE 0: There are no rules. Stab people saying otherwise.

You mean I should be the one building the sandcastle, so the "others" can have fun stepping all over it? Nah I am the one who steps.

Yeah this update is aids. I tried make it work, but everyone seems to be giving up, so I did like the others and just made sure I grief every milkweed, convert every berry to seeds, dig and eat every carrot that's seeding and make 100 bone needles.

Was already too easy to grief, too hard to cooperate, now it's absolutely unplayable.

In ancient times people were foragers and gatherers migrating from place to place, until they learned to cultivate crops and animals basically to be able to stay in the same place.

This game makes no sense from a realistic standpoint, as clay/ceramics had a much greater role, after which came bone tools, after which came bronze tools, after which came iron tools, after which came steel tools.
(P.S. I skipped flint as it's somewhat included)

Furthermore cultivating crops and animals isn't a simple task. Wild varieties of crops are usually highly inefficient, you have to go trough a lot of generations to get it genetically modified to work as a cultivated crop. Same goes with animals.
There's much more crops than carrots and wheat. There were dogs. Hunting was much more common (hunting is a waste of time for the most part in OHOL).

I don't think people made "backpacks" in ancient time (though it's hard to tell things about materials that decay), likely saddlebags were much more common. Furthermore they were able to carry things on horses via saddlebags, not simply carts.

In the real world there's also rivers, oceans, lakes, fishing and stuff. A well tapped into an underwater river shouldn't really dry up, unless an earthquake causes the flow to shift. There's also rain and rainwater and rain wells. All we have in OHOL are ponds and useless wells that don't really do much.

There's also commerce - which is impossible/meaningless in OHOL because there's no real steady civilization and insufficient things to produce.

Doesn't make sense to compare, as there's not much common ground to draw between OHOL and real life.

I can prolly keep going. TL:DR this game is as far from RL as possible. DST is probably more realistic.

If you use the launcher 3rd party thing you can clearly see the server being 0/200 after losing connection. It's server-side and it drops EVERYONE on a server.

I thought we were already at v76, at least I remember doing a client update. Didn't know server updates are pushed later, that sounds kinda weird. Thanks for the info!

That's not simple at all.

How does the game detect if you're being spawned in a "large village"? It doesn't. This would require significant development time and additional features.

Simple examples: You kill, but you also kill yourself; Killing feature is permanently removed, as it's a meaningless feature that doesn't add value and causes problems; Leave it as it is (or temporarily disable it), then improve contextually in future content releases.

In order to solve the problem, you need to know what the problem is first. So the main questions to ask are : why is killing/griefing currently a problem? When is it not and why?

That's not how it works at all. Crowns are just a visual item. A successful long-term villages needs a couple of experienced players spawning there on purpose often. Ideal scenario if you want to tryhard is to get a bunch of reliable people from different timezones on discord with voice chat and control spawns, so nobody else gets in your village besides these people. Unknown people are just a problem. You need a minimum of two people who know what they're doing and never sleep and you have a perfect village. It's not a cooperative game, it's just a game full of gimmicks that deter in-game (rather than metagame) cooperation for no meaningful reason.