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Yeah it's very clearly not working at all. If they do happen to get stuck in DT they just suicide until an available mother in the rift pops up so they can avoid the punishment all together. Needless to say the curse system needs reworked again as its once more in a state of uselessness.

For proof search the hash which shows their abuse of suicide to get out of DT, and the curse log shows 120 curses. This of course isn't the highest amount of curses but clear abuse can be shown.

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http://publicdata.onehouronelife.com/pu … turday.txt

http://publicdata.onehouronelife.com/pu … turday.txt

Both players were spawning during the open Eve windows during Saturday/Sunday and attacking people so clearly the system is either very undertuned even with a 7 day ban period or doesn't work and I obviously can't test something like this on the main server without asking everyone everywhere to curse me.

So who knows it's either useless, broken, or both. Pick your choice.

Then there's no reason to limit cursing besides protecting trolls. Might as well get one each life since there's a curse cut off after someone has been dead for five+ minutes.

While this is true you can only see the other person attacking you if you happen to be running directly at them from when they're at max range. Lowering the range will make it so whoever is attempting to attack you will already need to basically be on your screen which should automatically be a red flag if someone is armed with a bow in the middle of town.

Yes and no. The range is always going to be 10 in case of attacking from left, right, north. South side has an additional tile due to how the grid around the player works (this is the same way for the players heat grid.)

From the maximum range of 7 you can click an additional three tiles behind the target if attacking the player from the north side OR you can click an additional four tiles instead of coming from someones south side. Both left and right sides functional the same when bow range is accounted (you can only attack a player three tiles further behind them from left or right side.)

Refer to the limestone/iron picture to see the extra attackable tiles. North side of the baby is extra tiles you can click when attacking someone from the south.

Have you ever seen the issue where a player is walking with one item in their hand but it suddenly changes to another item when you get closer? This is what is occurring during this exact moment and situation.

You load the player moving around but haven't fulled loaded them. (Example: You can load players but not what they're wearing so this is why you see people zooming around on a horse, babies who poof into adults, or players holding an item which then turns into another item.)

So on a base level they're loaded but what they're holding isn't. This means when inputting a kill command you'll just see them walk over to you and once they get within range of the attack the bow will suddenly load as they come to a stop (which is when the kill command goes through.)

Why does the game not load stuff properly? I have no idea but people others can attest to these issues occurring in game (especially items switching in players hands and invisible horses.)

The main issue is the fact you are able to attack someone from such a range that is possible for the player to not be loaded upon another players client. This makes it possible for someone to appear nonthreatening in the first place (which makes both the growl feature or any sound feature in general) completely useless as until they do their next input they'll be completely friendly looking then boom. You're stabbed/shot as the kill command goes off when they come to a stop.

This can be seen in one of Twisted videos or in general when a player comes from off screen (things such as what looks like speed hacks when an unloaded horse is being ridden by a player, or players showing up as babies suddenly being poofed into an adult form.) So regardless if you want a delay or not none of these things would help in the first place.

Emotes, sounds, or anything else is absolutely useless when the attacking player is basically stealthed which the actual root of this problem. The exact issue at hand can be seen discussed here:

https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7564

Morti has another player on horse (the black Eve) who is not loaded properly running around looking like she is speed hacking when in fact she's actually also riding a horse around. Instead of a horse like in his example we have a player with a loaded weapon shooting someone from such a range off screen that they are always appearing as a naked Eve.

This is a side effect of having the attack range being so large that you can attack someone from two screens away from a northern/southern part where on the right and left sides of the screens you can only attack a few units further than the default FoV.

So the main complaint:

Due to the ridiculous range of the kill command input it is possible to attack someone while unloaded for the player being attacked. This means no audio cues or visible cues are given to the player attacked. This is caused due to the how far away you can attack someone with and should be remedied by moving the kill command size from 7 (this is two screens away from the north/south side of a screen and 1.5 screens away from the left or right side) down to four (this is within view from the left/right side of the screen while still only being slightly off the north/south side.)

The second complaint is the issue being the combat system is inferior to the previous system in almost every way possible. Due to the unbalanced nature of combat now you have one player with 900 kills in a 3-4 month period which last I checked is more kills than both of Pein's accounts over a year and even worse a second player with 1600 kills.

With the only defense in the game to an attack being to play with you zoom to max (which the game should not be designed around) and running away from someone attacking you have a much greater imbalance than the previous system. The old system punished someone for not learning to defend themselves while the new system punishes the player for not using a modded client which is honestly a worse fuck up on Jason part more than anything.

While the war sword is still overpowered when it's possible to use the bigger issue is the combat system overall. When he removed the skill from PvP system we get into the problem we have now where a couple of monkeys can constantly cause damage (one person managed 900 kills in 4~ months, another person is at 1600~ or so.) These are bigger numbers than Pein had between his two accounts which should absolutely be giant red flags.

Being able to attack someone two screens away is terrible design as someone can only take advantage of this with a zoom mod which PvP shouldn't be based around. Not to mention with something like a bow you have 52~ different tiles you can click on to send an attack trigger and with most the game will autowalk you into kill range if the other person doesn't move.

Next up we have the issue of combat always rewarding the first person to trigger kill command which is just dumb. Old combat favored those who could predict, those who could react, and those who would think through a situation. Now we have a combat "system" that rewards zooming to max range and shift clicking a tile near someone. Not even are you clicking the person at this point but a random tile around them to kill. 

Also, in the current system we lack the defense options of the previous system. No snowballs to disarm people acting in bad faith, no ability to try to dodge the shots of someone not thinking about what has occurred, nothing what so ever. Instead, what replaces this is a system where one party just runs away until the chaser starves, you starve, or they have to drop their weapon and you trade places. A shitty game of tag does not a combat system make.

So yeah, swords were shit as I proved before but the bigger issue now is that he has somewhat balanced them but left the terribly designed PvP bandage on.

Revert bow back to the stage of only firing on a confirmed hit and remove auto aim.
Make the snowball great again or add a bolas. No auto aim for these.
Swords are basically balanced in terms of use since Elders can call war/peace. Still recommend removing the auto attack feature.
Knives are fine as well imo minus the extra 9 tiles to click + autoaim.

PVP update was a sham and should just be swapped back to a place where people can actually defend themselves. No one in real life just lets themselves get murdered because someone growled at them first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4emkCe … e=youtu.be

Small explanation video. Kill command has 7 standard tiles it can be issued from with an extended three if you shoot someone by clicking their furthest away kill tile. A player has a small grid around themselves which helps determine things like heat which I assume is the same tile space used to determine kill tiles. Because of how the player grid works you have more kill tiles above a player than you do below (up to four tiles above the player model, and three tiles lower which is the same way the heat grid works.)

Auto-aim negatively effects the game due to the large amount of clickable tiles to attack someone because with a zoom client vs normal client you will be attacked from upwards to nearly two screens away (going left to right, or up and down nearly three screens away.) Of course the bow is biggest issue with such a large kill grid to click, the sword/knife only have 9 tiles to click (the attack range is a 3x3 with the player being the center piece.)

As with the murder videos I hope this explains the problem and shows why this is bad for the game.

The range is 7 due to him limiting how far away you can be from a target. Before that change you used to be able to enter the kill command from any distance (combine this with the wide area and it was even worse than what we have now.)

Tomorrow I might try to make a small clip to help illustrate the issue further as the bows range looks absolutely ridiculous when compared to a knife/sword which only has 9 clickable attack tiles vs the 52 or so different tiles you can click with the bow(but still shares the 7 tile range away from the intended target.)

Would assume cars + planes are in the same boat.

That's because the fixes haven't been pushed to live yet.

Graves do have to be fixed if they're not as that'll be what is abused next. Either that or people will start dying next to the rift to start tossing things over it/being wounded next to the rift to toss things.

Rift basically needs to block items from flying over it or things can still be abused either way.