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Why does what is produced have to be poor quality? I feel like it just needs to be a "walk before you run" kind of thing. Do simpler crafts, build to more complex ones. Then you couldn't just make a plane right out the gate. You'd have to craft simpler items that the town needs first. Crafts above your skill level are just undoable (albeit for a short period of time).

I think your idea of a skill-based system is way to complicated. You're thinking of building skills associated with individual craftable items. What I imagine is that the more you cook (no matter what you cook), the more complicated things you can cook. And the more you smith (again, no matter what you smith at your current level), you will be able to craft higher level items. I don't imagine that this curve would be very steep or difficult to achieve, but would create a more realistic progression of crafting skill.

The questions about Eves is moot, since Eves are going to start out at the most basic level, regardless of what the player knows about the game. That natural progression should build their skills as the go without them noticing much difference, except when reaching higher tech tiers.

Edit: I also think this would be a good system to prevent all Eves from just rushing to the nearest abandoned city. They would have access to the items, but they would not immediately be able to take advantage of everything right away because they hadn't followed the natural skill-building progression.

I just want to say, Ollj, I haven't seen any posts from you yet that didn't frame you as a sociopath.

Imagine if a rookie baker comes into the kitchen and you have one or two skilled bakers. They're going to chase the new guy out before he can skill build. Then your bakers die of old age and a rookie comes in and bottlenecks the food supply.

Now imagine that you go to put the dough on the plate and it just makes something like "Messy dough on plate", then you have to return it to the bowl and try again. I think these little types of recoverable frustrations are enough to add a bit of a speed bump without discouraging progress and cooperation.

I think the issue you're having is that you imagine only one people will learn a particular skill. Also, I think basic things shouldn't require any skill building at all. Farming is basic and requires really no buildup. It's the more intense crafting that would require skills.

So that's really where trade comes in. Why do you or why does any person do the particular job they do? To make money and put food on the table. You didn't farm the vegetables or slaughter the animals, you traded for your basic staples. If you've spent the time building your blacksmith skill, you haven't been baking pies. You trade for pies.

I agree with what Dodge is saying. We should be forced to cooperate across generations in order to climb the tech tree. We shouldn't have a whole city built with kerosene, cars, and planes in just a couple generations. I don't fully agree that an unskilled worker should create waste though. That might discourage progress. Maybe if the waste they generated is recyclable.

I agree completely. The physical abilities are being simulated but the accumulation of knowledge is not.

I'm not saying that it's advisable to start a war. As was mentioned earlier, you may not start one but someone will. When attacks do come, if you care about your score, you will be incentivised to do whatever it takes to preserve the greatest number of relatives. Playing the role of medic is good, but then the attack continues until you have no pads. Just running away won't help because your dead relatives count against you. The score is a reason to stay and fight.

And if you die and are born into the other family, your best scoring option now is to change sides. Loyalty is a fickle thing.

The only ways to limit what an individual can accomplish is to make the task much more difficult and time consuming, or to introduce a skill system. I don't think anyone will get behind either one, so you will always see multitasking among the experienced players.

So if you're experienced, you are rich. If you're new, you're poor. The poor have nothing to offer the rich, so trade just doesn't happen there.

This would be more relevant is genetic score mattered even in the slightest. A high score will make old age easier. But most of us have gotten used to playing OHOL the way that it always was and a low score doesn't make the game any harder than what we're used to.

Roleplaying is a great way to create something deeper and more beautiful than the spreadsheet that is score counting.

A lot of culture is about art. I thought some kind of paint and canvas would be a nice addition. If we could create images on the canvas that could be saved similar to the photo server, that would be amazing. Maybe the canvas could have a long decay time but could be revived with some sort of restoration tool set. I guess a similar system could be used for some kind of sculpting. I don't know how well these ideas would play with the current engine though.

Is there some external reward in the real world for cultural identification? I think the passing on of cultural traits is based on imitation when young, then respect and fear for previous generations as one gets older. Those would be hard to simulate. The other motivator is alive and well in the game in some cases: national pride. Slap a sign on a wall with a town name and throw some swords down and you will surely have a zealous army.

I think slot boxes full of jobs or town laws are an increasingly present form of cultural expression. Whether or not future generations keep those traditions is up to them but I think that's like real life too. If you think back on human history, culture in any given country can change drastically every decade. So that means if the culture of your town lasts even close to the full sixty minutes of your life, then culture is actually progressing quite slowly.

I agree with that point. Just naming a child Hope quickly communicates the situation of the town and what their responsibility is going to be. You can say "You are Hope" or you can say "There are no fertile women left in town and you are the last girl, so have a lot of kids." I also think when you see a bustling town, to meet a woman named Hope quickly communicates that they are the one that saved the family.

I think the emergent culture of the players is a beautiful thing.