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So you arent going to adress the fact that co2 is only one part and that temperature where higher before although co2 was lower? OK
I did address it. CO2 is the primary cause of modern climate change, i.e. the rapid spike in global temperatures over the last 100 years.
Also the models are accurate. I'm not sure where you got that chart but it seems like more cherry-picking.
I'm also not interested in niggling over every opinion from individual scientists or politicians. The consensus is that global warming is happening at an unprecedented rate and it is anthropogenic in origin.
I hope you realize that co2 is not everything if we are talking about climate,
I realize this. I have shown however that CO2 is the predominant factor in global warming today. Not only that but that the CO2 is anthropogenic. So saying it is more complicated is hand-waving and dodging the issue because you can't address it directly.
how is that that temperatures where warmer 130'000 years ago then?
Again, you're misunderstanding. I linked you a graph showing the temperatures used to be much much higher 50 million years ago. Why not cherry pick that? 130,000 years ago is a single data point and really not relevant in the grand scheme of things. What matters is the rate of change here and the projected trend.
Same scientists a couple years ago:
I can almost guarantee you that the same scientists that wrote the article that the Globe is referencing there in 1970 are the not the same scientists that discovered global warming in the 1980s or the ones that continue to do research on it today.
Science does change and you have to update your outlook with new information which is something you seem to be unable to do.
I'm not sure why you brought up the ozone layer, but there isn't a better example of anthropogenic global atmospheric disruption that was reversed by action that was taken... It seems a self-defeating point you've made there.
From graphs it looks like we're in a period of natural global warming,
Yes, over a period of 10s of thousands of years.
but soon it would be global cooling and it would be ten times worse,
Again, soon is not the right word here unless you are a demigod. We are talking 10s of thousands of years again to reach another glacial period, if the cycle continued.
also releasing co2 to atmosphere looks like natural cycle (last graph), the highest aren't the present times yet.
CO2 does fluctuate naturally, over 10s of thousands of years, but we are well outside the levels of anything seen on the planet for the last 3 million years. What's more important than looking at nominal amounts is realizing how fast this change is occurring and how damaging that will be to global ecosystems and weather patterns.
To be fair co2 released by manmade activity is cumulative since plants, algaes can only absorb a set quantity and any excess will stay in the atmosphere
Yes and that is key to understanding the problem. You are talking about the natural carbon cycle I can only assume with your graph here. If it is accurate, then a 3.5% disruption to that cycle is MASSIVE especially over the course of a mere century.
but if you want a smaller scale than millions of years:
I criticized your graph of 400,000 years. You realize that one century is 1/4000 of such a graph correct?
And this one you've posted and analyzed... well first of all it's in F, which is annoying, but also the Eemian "spike" you're talking about was nearly 40,000 years long. It looks steep because the graph is huge.
We have only been doing this for a century. You will not see it on graphs larger than 1000s of years.
I mentioned the Paleocene Thermal Maximum because it is much more comparable. Here is what it looks like on a millions of years chart.
See that little tiny spike next to "PETM" that looks like just a blip? That's 50,000 years and it was incredibly disruptive to life on the planet. Again I will reiterate the studies I posted above, we are contributing 10x the amount of carbon that caused that little blip, today, and our trend is still upward.
Here's a much more comparable graph to today versus the Eemian.
Notice how they zoom on the last thousand years so you can get a real sense of what is going instead of trying to compare steep angles that are the difference between 100 years and 10,000. We are well outside the carbon levels that have kept us in glacial cycles for the last few million years.
Speaking of dumb logic, trying to see anthropogenic warming that has only been occurring for the past century on a graph of the last 400,000 years is pretty dumb.
This is more the time period you want to look at.
There's no doubt that man made Co2 contributes to the upwards temperature change but that contribution is a tiny droplet in a vast ocean
This is also nonsense. The scale at which we are releasing carbon is unseen in the history of the planet. The most comparable period would be the Paleocene Thermal Maximum around 55 million years ago when the temperature rose 5-8 C over 50,000 years or so. This is largely believed to be cause by volcanic expulsion of massive amounts of CO2.
This study published in Nature estimates:
that the peak rate of carbon addition was probably in the range of 0.3–1.7 Pg C yr−1, much slower than the present rate of carbon emissions.
We are currently releasing ~10 times that amount, 10 Pg of C per year.
We are the primary contributor to the reversal of the cooling trend which you linked in your original graph over the last century. If we continue at this rate, the results will be devastating.
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Gene score is a random number generator. Your great nephew will have a greater affect on your score than you will by living to 60 and keeping a town alive.
What getting on the discord gets you is the ability to know when NOT to play if you care about gene score. People who care will not spawn in if there is an Eve wave going on, only when towns are established. Likewise they won't spawn if there is a griefer active and if they do spawn in to a town with an active griefer, it is better to /die than try to live out that life. The system does not incentivize what it's supposed to, caring about your family, rather it incentivizes power play where you basically carry the town on your back while using Hetuw mod so zoomed out you don't even notice that the noob next to you is asking for help, rather you're chatting across server in Phex about active griefers and trade. It also disincentivizes some of the funnest parts of the game, essentially playing through adversity.
Speaking of discord specifically, it is not a healthy community. Most people there are extremely jaded with the game and Jason's direction and update schedule and it's pretty easy to see why. You are exactly right that joining this community is pretty much a requirement with the current game's state but that is not a good thing.
I took a break after the rift updates (which I believe is where Jason really lost his way) and came back to a game that is incomprehensible and people who knew what they were doing but had no time to stop and help me in game even though I would ask. I joined the discord because I knew that was the only way I was going to catch back up, but most people aren't going to go to that effort. They'll spawn a few times and then quit for good after being told off for berrymunching and then wandering around aimlessly without knowing what to do or anyone willing to teach them.
The game is way off from what it was originally intended to be about. It has the simultaneous problems of being impenetrable to newcomers and too stagnant for veterans and most of all, asocial without meta-gaming. This chart shows that something is wrong and that the game won't be around for much longer unless something changes. https://steamcharts.com/app/595690#All
Also, re: language, we have white people, radios and pen and paper. I think it's one of the few systems in the game right now that's interesting because it encourages SOME kind of interaction even though none of them make logical sense. Again, power users will just skirt around this with phex.