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SpiritBomb32 wrote:

Testo, you would need a few friends or just god teir communication.I think that is a huge part of making the game from survival to society. I think that's why murder chains happen, the real story gets drowned by the other comments. I think that making a government will be very hard to do without UI, given that rules even if everyone understands in the first place, will be gone by the next generation. Rip sorry if I ramble

I think just normal organization for the engine is enough. Obvioulsy a previous plan and setup, maybe some practice. But not that much really. What you really need is people that understand each step, a.k.a. people that can make the engine alone. I´m pretty confident in my analysis, maybe it is not 5 minutes, maybe it´s 7 idk. But I can guarantee it can be done in less than 10 minutes (from steel though). The point is, newcomen specialization is suboptimal compared to task specialization (And also newcomen specialization requires some level of coordination too).

The only part where newcomen specialization (each newcomen with a different attachment) is faster is in the tool change. Maybe if you had infinite resources and a factory level of continuous  production (and this is a BIG maybe). Like having 10 newcomen engines working non stop (remember each tool has a different ratio of use). But that would mean 10 people making engines (so you would need at least 20 people looking for iron to make it continuous. And at least 20 people making steel/ charcoal at the same time (wich is by far more time consuming). And 20 people feeding kindiling for charcoal. And 10 people feeding those 4 levels. That is 80 people working for an hour. And you would make like 2 engines every minute. Wich would make 120 engines in an hour. For a 600 max people server. So you would have an engine for each person in 6 hours and then some....

~rambling.

It doesn't take long to switch attachments. Why build four newcomens?

ollj wrote:

Léonard wrote:

That's fine and all until you realize that, oh gee I don't know, maybe you don't start a war in the first place and avoid any casualty at all?

this is not how the tragedy-of-the-commons and tits-for-tats work.

you either have an item for foreign-only warfare, or its substitution; sabotage gallore.
and the sabotage alternative comes with a fuckton of paranoya, and wastes much more time.

No.  I'm not arguing against defense.  I am arguing against starting wars.  Anytime you start a war, you can anticipate casualties.  And one single casualty hurts your genetic score more than none, so starting wars has NO logic in the game.  Simply put, if you're starting wars, you're trying to make things more difficult on other players, INCLUDING those of your families.  So, if you're starting a war, then you're a griefer.

RodneyC86 wrote:

HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

Well excuse ME but we are having a civilized and european discussion fit only for gentlemen here, W0WMA.

Wait what, I'm not European and your insinuation only Europeans can hold a civilized discussion offends me

I'm offended that you got so offended. And if that offends you, well sir, that offends me.

RodneyC86 wrote:

AdelaSkarupa wrote:

What is YaH?

You are Hope - Chinese mobile bootleg of OHOL - supposingly has much more content and stuff to craft since it's not a one man project. Was made using same source code since this game is open source

Oh yeah, did not register the acronym. I have that game but it just doesn't have the social dynamic of the real game. I don't care what you can craft if nobody is actually doing good for the town (And EVERYONE plays on the beginner server; slower hunger, no killing).

RodneyC86 wrote:

HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

4 tied long shafts + a rope for it to be made, i agree to this

Don't you dare even jynx this beautiful thing

Plus an adze for extra good luck? Imagine a town where every wall is a window

RodneyC86 wrote:

FulmenTheFinn wrote:

Bigger workforce and more food = counterproductive? Gee, what planet do you live on?

Believe it or not, I think actually as female in a new family (gen 2) it can be detrimental to have a population explosion early on when the first plot of gooseberries and carrots just started to mature.

The farm should mostly be done within gen 1, if not entirely. With a few kids helping, you should be wholly capable of getting sheep as well, before dying as Eve.

Anyway, we're talking about yum chaining here, i.e. not Eve camps, where most of the time you can't yum very high.

In a town with at least a completed farm and an oven, there's really no excuse not to yum chain. And if everybody in the town did it, you'd probably almost halve your collective food consumption, leaving much more time to pursue other things than e.g. constantly maintaining the berry farm.

jasonrohrer wrote:

Yes, this is a plan at some point.  They will mostly just look nice.  Walls are too short for them to functional.  I mean, they will be transparent, but....

Walls are a lot taller than baskets of pretty much anything. Couldn't it be used to set out a basket of pies or something? In fact, it seems like a basket falls about in the middle of a tile. If the window is placed correctly, couldn't it just fall where it normally would if it were a ground tile?

@JonySky

The concept would be easy but levelling up could take multiple generations depending on what it is.

Then you pass down the skill to future generations.

At some point kids from future generations will be born with the skill their parents had and will naturally tend to go in one direction if they want to.

Yes you could do everything but being rookie you will waste more ressources which will be a problem late game with limited ressources.

You can imagine a lot of problems that could be solved but right now there is no trade, so what do you suggest to make trade a reality if everyone can do everything?

AdelaSkarupa wrote:

Grim_Arbiter wrote:

We used to make windows on greeps server by using the first two blocks of a bell tower base. It kinda worked, but would be impractical in game because people would just add blocks to them.

How does that affect building insulation? I've also seen the carts that run in and out of a wall cutout.

No idea, we built them before the temp overhaul x)