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I'll give it a try with Android!
Well.. there must be something we can do about it, right? I was there as a kid and he ran to my mom, with knife in hand, saying "give the shawl now!" so she gave it and he run away. I then chase him, saw him giving it to his 'girlfriend' I think, to her daughter, who then grew up to a child and ran away. I confront him, became a target because he then choose that he wants to kill me. Well, I'm not a easy target so i doged him and ran away, while he was chasing me.
After a couple of minutes he stopped chasing me so I told to a woman what happened- after all, I still was a child and couldn't kill him- but she dropped her knife and I was just old enough to pick it up. I run to him, see that he just killed another woman and was running slow. So I killed him. Problem was, we couldn't save the other woman but.. more bad, he just keeps on ranting. Things like 'Fucking niggars' and "Heil Hitler!'.
The problem is, we couldn't do anything else because waiting until he dies .. and its really annoying. There must be something to do about that sort of people. The only thing we can do now is giving a foul mouthed racist to another family line! Where he, no doubt, doing the same thing over and over again! This is the tird time in three days I walk into some idiot, from "Kill all black/white people!" "Allah Akhbar!" "I want to eat that dumb white guy there!" "Heil Hitler!" and so on. There must be something people can do about that kind of people, because its beyond annoying..
Well.. and then there is my post which is being ignored, lol!
I think that with the idea I had could also work. I have it better explained in my post before, but I will get an example here too.
In short: People who do good for the community- babies who suicide because of famine, the killer of griefers, baby abandon because there is a famine, people who food baby’s because they are abandoned without a famine, mothers who feed their baby’s without a famine, people who works hard his/her whole life- would get a ‘better’ grade for the next life, so that they can spawn easier in big towns and stuff.
While the people who did bad for community- baby suicide without famine, mothers who abandon babies without famine, griefers, killers without reason, food sponges, people who didn’t do anything- get an ‘bad’ grade, they would be harder to respawn in a good community.
With this grading system you could get the ‘good’ people on one side with positive things like getting more (or less?) children, born into good community, less spawn as eve/eve’s baby. The ‘bad’ people would get an larger change to spawn as eve/eve’s baby and in lesser communities because they did back. The more ‘good’ or ‘bad ‘ you was, the more influence you have in your next life; but without choosing a life yourself, you are being born random.
What if we connect the baby suicide/abandonment with killing/grieving and lineage ban?
Let say, you spawn as baby girl and your mom runs away letting you die. The game looks to your mother to see why- is she starving? So yes, comes she back?
- If she comes back and raises you, she won't be punished and neither will you.
- But, she doesn't come back. Some other man/woman picks you up or feeds you berries, works well with adopting children. You don't die so you live until your old enough to feed yourself. The woman/man gives a more positive way to the lineage ban.
Your mom in the first example gets a ‘normal’ lineage ban from three hours, because she was starving and comes back after eating so she can raise you. Her lineage ban is normal because she first let you die.
If she was starving and eat/wasn’t starving but don’t come back and let you die, she would be getting an longer lineage ban because she was an “bad mother”.
If she let you die but someone else picks you ups and feed you until your grown, that person would be an lesser lineage ban, because he/she doesn’t have to feed you- it isn’t your mom after all- but did in anyway.
Example:
You are spawned as baby and your mom picks you up soon and raises you. Her lineage ban would be lesser than three hours. She names you and feeds you until your three years older or older.
In this case, her lineage ban would be less than three hours, because she is active in letting you grow and helping you to get an good start in life.
Example:
You would be born as eve and the came ‘paused’ your fertility until you have basic stuff (bow drill, kiln, axe, some bowls/plates) and then you became fertile. You got the same rules as above, but your penalty is less heavy than when you spawn into a city, because you didn’t have enough food to feed much children. So you get less children, say three, and have to raise them or get an penalty.
Then there is the baby suicide:
The baby spawns into an start place with an Eve, or into an small/big town. It depends on the food available if and how much your penalty would be; girls and boys alike.
Griever/murderer:
When you kill someone, the game sees why; was it an griever? Someone who killed before? An adult? A baby?
If you kill a griever/killer, you won’t have an penalty.
If you kill a baby/child/adult/old person who haven’t killed before and didn’t grief, you would have an penalty. The game looks to the person you kill. Persons above the fertility have the lowest penalty, fertile woman the most.
What would this penalty means? Than can be a couple of things:
- Maybe the change to be born into an bigger city would depend on this things. So that ‘good’ persons (mothers who raised their children, people who raise abandoned babies, the murderer of an killer, people who works hard, baby suicide because there’s a famine) have more change to be born there, while the ‘bad’ people have lesser change. (Baby abandonment while there is enough food, babies suicide without a ‘reason’, killers, grievers, bad mothers) have an less change to spawn into big cities.
- The lineage ban would depend on how ‘good’ or how ‘bad’ you are; say that the default is three hours, people who did it so-so would have three hours, people who would be bad would have an lineage ban of four or five hours, while people who are good for the community have a lineage ban of one or two hours.
Yes Mama was really sweet! I keep calling her mama too, even when I get Sun and was official an father. When I was young and before you were born, I only saw mama. Alpha was always traveling far and I saw him first when I was an teenager. Mama was very sweet and nice to me, we didn't have all much time because she also was the smith, but she find always time to say something nice when she was feeding me. When I was old enough she told me to have fun and I walked away to see with what I could best help; couldn't get far though, because when I was six steps away she called after me and gives me her backpack, again telling me to have fun.
I decided to bake the pies when and old man, I thought Alex, came by. He said he was becoming old and asked who was interested in being an shepherd. I always like the sheeps, they are so calming, so I said at once I wanted to; he then called me Son and we walked to the sheep pen together. When I ran the first time to the berry bushes to get berries to feed them, mom came around and we talked. After that she keeps getting to me to see if everything was okay with me. The years flew by, by the time I was an young teen the old Shepherd was really, really old. He told me that he wanted to die with the sheeps because they were family and so he did.
Mom and me talked about Alex and how nice he was, I brought him outside the fence. Afterwards mama and me buried him just outside the pen; mom lies next to him now. Mom gets an shovel and we buried him together, afterwards mom get an head stone so we can proberly bury him, we give him the old shears so he could always shear the sheep in his next life. I was then the only shepherd and run from the pen to the food they can get more babies and fur for clothes. I had enough for an hat and made one for mom and later for me, so that we could be warmer.
The years flew by and at one moment I heard crying from the side of the berry bushes. So I went there looking for the sound, finding an little boy who was crying hard, tears streaming down. No mother in sight, nobody who could feed him or love him. I then decided he would be loved, no matter what! So I take little Sun in my arms and run to the berries, feeding him. I let him meet the sheeps and told him that he could be the next shepherd if he wanted to, or do something else. I then tend to both the sheeps and my son, letting him meet mom who was happy to have an grandson. And I was so, so happy to know that it doesn’t matter for us both that Sun didn’t get born out of me. He was my son and mama’s grandson, no matter what.
I’m so happy to know that he was part of our family and that all of us don’t look at him with the thought ‘what does he here? ‘ and for him to know that he is more than welcome. I make him an sweater and watch him, just as mom watched me to see if everything was okay. The years flew by and before I know it, mom was very old. We shared memories and food, were together as an family. It was bittersweet. I don’t want mom to die, but was happy to know that we had an strong family with bonds growing over time. I knew that mom never really would be dead, because we lived and she lived in us. That doesn’t make it easier though! I really hate the thought that she would be gone and that my heart never would leap again, because she checked on me. Then the time came she really died. I was heartbroken, but just like Joey knew it would be perfect to give her an good funeral.
So we buried her next to Alex the Shepherd, who was like a father figure for me. The years flew away to soon, tending to the farm and the sheeps, seeing more and more people dropping dead. I was becoming worried about Alpha and Joey, didn’t see them for a long time. Then Joey came back and we tried to make moms grave by marking it; we really didn’t know what was wrong or why it wouldn’t do it. Who would thought that the mallet must be new! Sun really saved the day. It was sad we couldn’t save the town, but they just didn’t eat. There were enough berries to eat from and well, it wasn’t at his glory, but there were enough left to eat. When I figured we were alone and also find Alpha’s grave it was really hard.
Being so old on my own, I returned to the pen and told them I would love to be buried next to mom. Then we would give each other our love and best wishes; I tried to cheer Sun up because he was getting down at the thought of losing me. But I knew that even if I died, I never would be gone forever. My heart was there, and also my soul. I really hope he felt what I mean. I gave the sheep their last meal, told them that I loved them dearly and blew out my last breath. Thanks for burying me next to mom! Knowing that we would be together forever makes me more happy than you ever would know.
Also thanks for being so awesome! Mom, if it wouldn’t be for you, I wouldn’t be lived. You were the only mom I ever had who walked to us to see if everything was okay. I loved the thought that you loved us so much you would see for your own. I hope I bring some of this love to Sun.
Alpha, even if I didn’t know you very much, I loved that you were my brother, thanks!
Joey, being your older brother was fun. I loved you so much and I’m really thankfull that you accepted Sun as part of our family.
Sun, my son, I don’t know enough words in English to tell you how much I loved you, lol. The moment I saw you in the berry field was one of the best moments in this live, to be your father and loving you makes all the things brighter. You were named Sun and that name did really fit you. You were the Sun in my life, thanks.
Yes I knew that I was there before!! I was Peniel there, your son and gen 19. When I was Peniel I cared for the sheep and give a baby an hat; the mother of the baby after that keeps calling me weird. She warned her children that I was weird because I gave her daughter an shirt and won't have something in return; found her in the berry fields alone. So I just ignored her and tend for the sheeps, composting and watering the bushes next to the sheep pen. The woman at last give birth to a son who she named Peniel after me, saying that I was hard working and she hoped he would be also lol. I see you were an grand-great-great-blabla-child from her so nice!
Then I was reborn there as Eagle, or Eagen, because the game dodn't like eagles. My mom was sweet and when I was old enough she gave me her backpack and her luck. I then walked around, asking myself if I really was born there before.. but I couldn't figure it out. An old man, Alex, came around and asked who could tend the sheeps. So I said I could be and he then learnt me that the sheeps were like family. Mom came around often to look if everything was okay; I was there tending the sheeps until I heard an faint cry. So I wend investigating and saw you there, alone, crying your eyes out and hungry. I knew it was my task to be the best father I could be for you, so I feed you and we were father and son. Because I loved you so much, my first shirt from the sheeps was for you. I wanted that you know that however your mom didn't love you, I did and my brothers and mother also. You were so bright and happy it should be hard to not love you!
There are too many children who did not get a name, or if they have a name didn't get fed because the mom runs away. I try most times to pick this children myself and feed them; I've never seen that an baby I 'rescued' became a griever later, so maybe thats my luck lol.
But, caring for this children, makes me think about a couple of things. Yes, of course we can pick them up and breastfed them as woman, or give food as male, but wouldn't it be awesome if there is an option to official adopt someone? I was thinking about an option to do that and both adult as baby must 'accept' on a way; then the adopting parent could name the child. There familyline could be changed that there is an option to be "(adoption)father/mother" and for siblings "(adoption)sister/brother" so that it would be really their sibling/grandchild/child/name it. Would be nice if it is seen on the family tree to; the 'birth' parent dont get shown but the adoption parent would.
Any thoughts?
I'm sorry for any faults in my text, English isn't my mother tongue.
Hello darling! I was Jill and I had reason i asked about the hoe. The reason was that with an hoe we could get carrots and we need carrots for compost; and compost for the dying berries, in that same thought. So without an hoe no carrots, no compost and more dying berries lol.
Well, I just really didnt like griefers. Since I couldnt know for sure if you was an griefer or not, I could better kill you. So we were running around the camp with an bow an arrow, putting them down to feed your brother, picking it up and run farther.. until I couldnt find the bow anymore. So I thought you picked it up and would kill me and your brother Daniel so we ran. Unfortunate I was too old at that point to feed him and the way we run to was without food, so he died in my arms. Shortly thereafter I perished myself.
But well, you got us to gen 40 so its fine lol
Well.. I would like to play on 2hol to see if that's another setting and thus another set of people, but i can't play on it lol. It gives me an "zlib1.dll' error while I can play on the ohol servers.
Is there anything I could do about that? I know I could fix it, but I think it's strange that I didn't get problems on ohol but did have problems on 2hol..
I was hoping that I could join because the server updated to version 86 (Could not join yesterday because it was outdated)
But the current version is 87 so its outdated again lol