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I do like the idea of having scores be more stable overtime, so it's less up to luck to be near the top of the leaderboard. An average score for your past 10 lives might indeed work really well, so /die'ing still affects it a lot but only extreme lives will REALLY alter the score.

Thing is, how do you calculate that score?
Is it like a 'grade' out of 60 (to keep the current number)? Does getting to age 60 and all your kids surviving to 60 as well mean you get full points and /die = 0? Then what does a score of 30 mean? Also: what % of the score is just YOUR life and not your kids'? Don't want to incentivice things like avoiding kids because you can always get perfect marks on just your own life without any kids...

Or maybe you start at 30 and early deaths are - and surviving is +, same as now. But if that's the case, does having 8 surviving kids w/ another 2 dying mean you'll get a higher score than having only 2 kids and 0 deaths? Should it be a % of how many of your kids survive? Then what about your own life?

What would be a good way to calculate scores to even get an average from to begin with?

I've felt every time I've had a nice co-op experience it just kinda happened automatically. I'm building a wall and someone is interested in doing the same thing or likes my project, so each takes up a task.

What Dodge says. Asking someone to help out rarely works cuz everybody kinda just does what they wanna do. Even babies that don't have a 'goal' yet often decline. Want to help me build this wall? Nah, I want to make stew.

Trust is also big, but mostly if it's a one-way interaction (someone asking the other to do something, not to work together)

I agree that this is an interesting question and perhaps what the game is/should be about. I personally love RP and feeling close to my family/offspring, and especially when I just started playing I would constantly check the family trees to see if my descendants were still alive. Indeed I try to set them up as well as I can, but tbh I care more about the player learning to eat by themselves than force feeding them to make sure my kid survives at least until I die. Technically I could even build a house, lock my kids inside and feed them there without ever letting them out so there's no risk of losing them, but I don't think that's fun for anybody.
I have about 3 minutes to make sure my kids are wearing clothes, know where to find food (starvation still being a major cause of death) and perhaps what they need to do or how they can help me. Most kids don't actually want to stay near their mother for longer than that, and I'm not gonna kidnap my own kids to make sure they listen to all the wise lessons I have to share.

Also important: I do think there's a few differences between the game and real life, with one simply being that direct family isn't as big of a deal. The question generally isn't 'How do I set up my kids to be safe/live until old age' but 'How do I set up this TOWN so everyone (including my kids) is safe/lives until old age'.
If my daughter leaves town to search for oil and then abandons any kids she has because she has a horse/cart and a mission, this might be better for the town in the long run, but not for my genes. She doesn't do this because she doesn't care about her family, but because there's MORE people (usually also family) affected in the long run than just those few kids that had to restart before even really starting their lives (if lucky they even /die'd). Priorities. By doing something like this I may have thrown my (and my mothers & brothers) genetic fitness score into the garbage, but at least I know the town will last a bit longer.
(Leaving the oil search to a male player instead? It's generally hard to trust people to actually do those kind of things, because a lot of others won't know how or simply don't feel like doing it. There isn't much time to build a trusting relationship like that anyway.)

To put simply: if the trolley problem would be applied to OHOL, a lot of people would pull the lever EVEN if it's their own kid. The genetic fitness score changes some of that, but in general it just isn't important enough. Why would my offspring have to survive over all these others? As it stands, there is no difference between my kid or someone else's kid besides them pushing down my score. That's why mothers dump their kids next to the fire so other women take care of them. You could see it as a daycare situation, but I feel it's more similar to foundlings. A point system doesn't seem to be enough to incentivize taking care of your own. It seems a lot of people don't even know it exists or what it is. 

As for that last point: sometimes I wonder what would happen if you'd get a notification every time someone important to you dies, perhaps even with the 'penalty' on screen. 'Your little sister Emily just starved, Genetic Fitness -1.5'. 'Your grandson Alex was just killed by a bear, Genetic Fitness -0.8'. Maybe it could even show up as a ! on screen so you can find/bury their body. Would people care more if it's more in their face? Or would they still feel helpless and not do anything to prevent it in the future? More often than not I won't realise one of my kids died until after I died too (it's not like they can come and tell me and if they're not around I won't immediately assume they're dead, they might just be out hunting rabbits or something). If family/offspring and your heritage should be so important, why is mourning so rare?

Are there other ways to incentivize taking care of your babies? As I mentioned over here in a topic w/ a very different subject, there can be no "us" if there is no "others", perhaps even within the same family. Why would I want MY offspring to survive over my 2nd cousin's (besides the points, we lookin for other incentives here)? It's not like I chose to have this kid, and even though they say ILY because I gave them a backpack, that doesn't mean they'll do more for me than the other kid would (unless they really like RP which a lot of players apparently don't, sadly, so there isn't much of an emotional bond).

Up to this point I've felt the shovel is the single most useful tool out of all of them. You use it to make compost, dig up stones, remove bushes/plants, build fences, bury people (if you want), farm potatoes... Might've forgot something still. I feel it has more uses than any of the other tools and I definitely don't mind using one of my slots on it (especially since it allows me to put dung in all the wet compost piles you see all over the place).

For me, S / A tier skills are skills that have more than one use (shovel, knife, needle & thread), whereas the lower tiers are things you rarely need to use at all (lasso, bow & arrow, bowdrill, file). I feel cars/planes/cameras are great to use your last skill slots on if you have some remaining at the end (especially if you made/finished it during your life and finally get to use it), but are indeed generally useless.

It really depends on what you like doing though. If you like smithing, things like the smithing hammer would be super high on the list. Same goes for having the hoe if you like farming or gardening. However, those tools aren't useful in any other way. The tool is great to have in town, not necessarily to have as a skill. All those kinda things are kind of in the middle tier-wise for me for that reason.

In general I think about what I want to do that specific life and base my slots around that. Which skills do I need so I'm able to do this start to finish? I'll ask a smith for tools if I need them, but I don't want to have to ask someone to either dig up or smash rocks for me when I'm trying to build a wall.

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ok I did the thing

A few things

First let me state that I liked war even though I've never personally gone on raids! I don't want to go around killing people, I just liked what it did w/ my feelings of closeness to the family across several lives. The thing is that that won't happen if there is no 'enemy' (can't have US if there is no OTHERS). I'm not looking for constant raids and warmongering, merely for a game mechanic that makes you feel closer to your family over time. As I see it, war would just mean people end up living in their own corners of the rift, make peace, and eventually one will die out because of a lack of resources (perhaps waging war again at that point to help their family survive over the other one).

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As far as I can tell, Jason is trying pretty hard to change that. Even if we haven't gotten close to it, depletion of resources is what 'should' end an arc. Thing is, if multiple families share the same resources, that means they'd both shrink in size when running out of resources instead of one dying before the other. This would just result in a babypocalypse instead of one family growing a lot bigger than the other.

Tbh I don't think everybody agrees on that one. Yes, there are people who think RP is useless, but in that case, so are making a loom for nicer clothes, gardens, buildings and anything else that doesn't have to do with water or yum. But yeah, it seems most people on _this forum_ agree with you that RP shouldn't exist for whatever reason (which is why I personally post a lot), but I assure you there's enough people who DO enjoy it and don't see it as useless at all. I know how to build a diesel engine, but I also enjoy building a loving family or starting some type of 'art' project in the game (... because it's more lasting than the family relations, as it stands). Each to their own, but don't go around killing people because they're being "useless" and a "waste of resources". IMO, the killer is the griefer in that case, but that probably depends on your perspective.

That's your decision, not everyone's. I tend to go with the flow and respect this person as the king from that moment. If other people don't join in, that's fine, but in a lot of cases there'll be more people than just the king himself joining in on the RP (sometimes even establishing traditions of inheritance and a crowning ceremony).

Which is exactly why I'd want a council type situation. One person wouldn't be able to start a war, nor do you need just one from either family. PLUS, the council can't themselves go to war, as they're elders, but will have to decide together with younger 'fighters'. I think having these decisions made with a larger group means they'd have to communicate about it first, which makes it more of a town decision. Perhaps there could even be a voting system put into place.

Big agree.

This is exactly what I'd like to see different. If your family matters more than another, perhaps you'd do your best to protect your oil well a bit more.

This! I'd like war to be more than just a tool for annoying other families.

As it stands, war exists but has no added value because it isn't being used properly. IMO, using it in a decent way / to protect resources & your family (doesn't even have to involve violence, just the POSSIBILITY of violence did the trick for me mentally) would be a great addition to the game - granted that it would need us to struggle for resources, but as I understand, that's the eventual goal.

I personally would want the other family to know (i.e. they get a message when the situation changes), so ambushes shouldn't be too easy.
Somewhat agree on that the fight system is stupid (no way to defend yourself besides attacking/running away), but maybe people will care more about keeping the fences/walls intact and closing the gates again?

Again, I understand not everyone likes war (especially raids), but I see it as a good way to compete for resources. The other family can go find their own oil well.
It's just a bit silly to me that when there's 2 families left they often seem to be at peace and live in the same town or near each other, so it's not like one will die out before the other because of a lack of resources (but just because one person decided to kill all the women in the other family or somethin). I'd like to prevent that situation from the start, I suppose, so families live more independently and you get more of a bond with the family (as opposed to just with the town, which is the case for me now). Trading goods is cool, living together, meh.

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