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#176 Re: Main Forum » The Cursed Doctor » 2018-09-02 15:42:47
VioletLily wrote:I was in that town at the time. That was the most active hospital I have ever seen. I think I saw 4 or 5 people need it myself. By the screams I was hearing, there were much more than that though. Most I directed to the hospital lived, except a poor baby I carried there (the fire was only coals when I arrived and we ran out of time). Sorry little one, I tried. I remember the cursed doctor. I was wary at first, but she seemed to be very passionate about healing people, so my worries faded away. I spent most of my life teaching someone to compost. It was a good life despite all the murder that was happening out of view.
Yeah, it was really sad we couldn’t help that baby. You tried though and it is the thought that counts. The only doctor with a knife was The Cursed One and she was out when the rest of surgeons were in, so we could t remove the head in time. She was really sad after and kept telling herself “I failed...”
Yeah, I was kind of heart-broken. I found him all alone by the kiln with an arrow wound crying for his mom, the poor little guy. He was so tramatized, he almost didn't let me pick him up. (Or her. I was in too much of a hurry trying to get the baby to the hospital to notice one way or the other) It was one of the only city-lives I've played where I didn't have a knife on me. I am almost always composting, so I usually keep one on me for sheep and wheat. Although the fire was coals at the time, so it probably would have taken too long to get kindling even if I did have one. It was just poor timing.
#177 Re: Main Forum » What was the most "Brainfart" thing that you ever saw in OHOL? » 2018-09-02 05:20:23
VioletLily wrote:I just had an epiphany that in the absence of a cart, you can take a basket of pie crusts to the mutton, rather than taking the mutton to the pie crusts one by one. I wasted so much time in past lives carrying mutton. Wish I would have realized this sooner. XD
2 guys tried to kill me for that thingy, i put the crusts in a cart and they tried to stab me for it, tellig me to get the carts of meat there
i was last female and ended up killing both of them
Seems like a silly reason to stab someone. Since pie crusts can go in baskets but mutton can't, taking a cart of pie crusts in baskets to the mutton is more time efficient, isn't it? You were last female too...
#178 Re: Main Forum » What was the most "Brainfart" thing that you ever saw in OHOL? » 2018-09-02 03:45:58
I just had an epiphany that in the absence of a cart, you can take a basket of pie crusts to the mutton, rather than taking the mutton to the pie crusts one by one. I wasted so much time in past lives carrying mutton. Wish I would have realized this sooner. XD
#179 Re: Main Forum » The Cursed Doctor » 2018-09-02 01:42:53
I was in that town at the time. That was the most active hospital I have ever seen. I think I saw 4 or 5 people need it myself. By the screams I was hearing, there were much more than that though. Most I directed to the hospital lived, except a poor baby I carried there (the fire was only coals when I arrived and we ran out of time). Sorry little one, I tried. I remember the cursed doctor. I was wary at first, but she seemed to be very passionate about healing people, so my worries faded away. I spent most of my life teaching someone to compost. It was a good life despite all the murder that was happening out of view.
#180 Re: Main Forum » In Regard to New Players » 2018-08-31 22:26:38
people get cocky before they get good, im more mad at them than the actual newbies
hard to know who is newbie or who is just asshole
the game has a fast pace if you actually care about playing it properly, im a control freak and try to optimize things on higher level, not on personal one, people just starve 10 babies but cry about one getting killed
when you explain things to people and they still ignore it, then comes the next baby and you need to do it again, gets frustrating after 8-10 of them
or many lifes when people ruin things over and over
i explained to 5 people not to throw sheep into pits, the next one still did it, the damage is done, less than 1 hour it was ruinedonce i was yelling to kids but actually told them why to do stuff, and someone even thanked me for it, the guy had the right mentality, as new player asked what we need and got tedious tasks done and enjoyed that we grow fast
when i was new i just did the things i know, planting, hunting rabbits, was more simple to survive in a city, most of us didnt knew how to make one
took me a while to get used to controls, and took me even more to realize how to eve and find a swamp to make a city, but i never did things without understanding them, like didnt even made tools a while, only when i knew it doesnt matter if im slow at itjoriom had a nice guide about being an eve and took me a while to be fast enough to make a family survive, puts the whole game into a new perspective
i understood that just suiciding to get into a city and doing whatever is frustrating for others, most of people still do
there was a lot of preaching about teaching but i dont see much effect, if you learned something and just repeat to your kids, people should already understand basic things, instead there is some misinformation going around and people do the same mistakes with strong conviction that they do the right thing
probably because of Twisted and other streamers, who cant even learn how to right click items in a basket or dead body or swap them from hand to a tile with item, but they teach othersthere are a lot of nice guides on forum and its easier than explaining ingame
Thank you for the post Pein. I can understand how new players could be really frustrating with your play-style.
I had a couple of harsh teachers while learning to play. I was appreciative as well. They were putting effort into teaching me after all. It was more than what most did. I was more talking about the times people were unnecessarily harsh without any effort to teach. It solves nothing and really serves no purpose other than to hurt. I do believe it is best to be kind when possible regardless though.
I also remember receiving some conflicting Info while learning. In those cases, experience proved to show me which was correct. I was always grateful for the misinformation regardless. It brought me closer to understanding than simple trial and error would on it's own.
#181 Re: Main Forum » The Yum Bonus » 2018-08-31 21:36:37
VioletLily wrote:D3mon1cblack wrote:and yes i know i didnt add all the food if i did ill still be writing tomorrow
Does anyone know where I can find a list of foods in the game? It would be nice to have a checklist. If all else fails, I could make my own but there's no reason to if somebody else has already. I am absolutely determined to get a +20 now.
Thank you so much! I don't know how I failed to notice that.
#182 Re: Main Forum » In Regard to New Players » 2018-08-31 21:34:34
If you read the quote they said it was easy to run by the tutorial stones without reading them. Thus not knowing about temp or burdock
My bad. You are correct.
It is very important to take your time in the tutorial. Especially for a game with such a steep learning curve. It will give you the basics required to learn the rest of the game.
#183 Re: Main Forum » The Yum Bonus » 2018-08-31 21:25:11
and yes i know i didnt add all the food if i did ill still be writing tomorrow
Does anyone know where I can find a list of foods in the game? It would be nice to have a checklist. If all else fails, I could make my own but there's no reason to if somebody else has already. I am absolutely determined to get a +20 now.
#184 Re: Main Forum » The Yum Bonus » 2018-08-31 20:39:49
I've been getting to 7-9 in cities recently. I could probably get more if I put in some effort but I'm usually too busy with compost. Plus, by that time I've forgotten what I ate at first. I would need to write them down if I wanted a high yum bonus.
I kind of want to see how high I can get that bonus now.
#185 Re: Main Forum » In Regard to New Players » 2018-08-31 20:24:01
Simple solution... take your time in the tutorial.
The tutorial only teaches the basics of the basics. It doesn't teach you the in-game etiquette most new players get in trouble for breaking. It also lacks some very common things you find when playing the game, eg. Sheep.
The tutorial definitely has it's purpose. I practiced smithing there after watching another player do it. But it can't teach a player everything.
On a different note, I was recently born to a family in the tutorial space. They let me starve, so I wasn't there for long, but I found it interesting.
#186 Re: Main Forum » You can write with popcorn » 2018-08-31 17:59:35
I remember accidentally writing on a bowl once. I was talking to one of my kids while holding my bowl. I don't remember what we were talking about but I remember I used the word curse in the sentence. I put the bowl down and picked it back up and there is my completely out-of-context sentence written on it. It made no sense to anyone who didn't participate in the convo. That bowl will be baffling people for the remainder of it's small life. XD
#187 Re: Main Forum » What was the most "Brainfart" thing that you ever saw in OHOL? » 2018-08-31 17:38:43
When I learned you can make another fire without needing to do it from scratch.
Straight shaft plus fire plus kindling equals instant fire.
Same
#188 Main Forum » In Regard to New Players » 2018-08-31 12:30:24
- VioletLily
- Replies: 30
There have been a lot of new players recently. As such, I believe there is a need to post this. Now, I am going to be getting really personal in this post (You have been warned). Why? Because I believe that we all could use the reminder that every player we meet in this game is indeed a real person with real emotions and feelings.
Now, I am going to tell you a little about my experience learning how to play this game. Believe me, I am not a complainer. I tend to avoid adding any form of negativity when I can. I am just posting this in the hope that at least one person will read it and decide to try to treat new players with just a little more empathy.
You see, I started playing this game during a large influx of new players a couple months ago. By the comments left in the forums at the time, it seems people were amazed at the sheer number of us. Now, I have no way of knowing how many of us there actually were. However, it is safe to say that, when I joined, people's patience with new players was at an all-time low.
I was called "idiot" at about 10-15 times every life while I was learning to play. Always for something I was doing wrong that I had no way of knowing was wrong beforehand, with little or no effort taken to teach me what I should do instead. Many times the term "idiot" was replaced with words and phrases I am uncomfortable repeating myself. Other than Eve-runs, I can't recall a single life where I wasn't verbally attacked. I won't go into too much detail but some of the things I experienced, in any other setting than online, would have been termed abuse plain and simple. I believe it was about one life out of ten when I was fortunate to meet just one person who was kind to me, or at least showed a little hint of civility. To put that into perspective, that is one nice person for about every five hours of gameplay.
I know many people who would be able to brush such things off - People who can face experiences like this without batting an eye. I really commend such people.
I am not one of those people.
Believe me, I wish I was. However, with my hereditary social anxiety and depression it is simply unreasonable to expect me to be. These experiences cut me deep. Far deeper than they would have for most.
Now, I am not looking for sympathy for myself. I have learned to live by a "what's done is done" policy. I worked through it and am now a more experienced player and am enjoying the game.
So, then, why am I telling you this?
Because I understand that just because I was able to work through the hostile environment I found myself in doesn't mean everyone else would be able to as well. I am not talking about their choice to continue playing the game or not. I am talking about lasting out-of-game impacts such hostility can cause many people.
Because, if I had tried this game when I was a teenager expecting a nice community based game and experienced the kind of hostile environment I mentioned, even if for only a few hours, it would have pushed me closer toward suicide.
Don't get me wrong. I am not faulting any of the players I met back then. Again: "what's done is done", and I understand that everyone has their reasons for acting in such a way. Many were probably just having a bad day or were unsure how to communicate their sentiments in the game. Maybe a few were newer players themselves. Its okay.
I haven't seen this level of negativity in-game since I joined. However, I am recognizing that patience is starting to run thin again and am afraid we might once again head in this direction.
So I am simply asking everyone to try, if possible, to avoid unnecessarily verbally attacking other players in the future: New or otherwise. I understand that patience can run thin and it can be hard to communicate with the limits placed in-game. Mistakes will be made. It's okay. Please just try.
And if you see someone demonstrating this behavior, please kindly correct them and/or comfort or reassure the person on the wrong end of it, and maybe help explain whatever sentiment the other person is trying to get across if you can.
#189 Re: Main Forum » Am I doing something wrong? » 2018-08-31 09:20:43
No, I don't believe you did anything to cause their early deaths. As long as there is enough food to go around, there is no reason to feed children once they can feed themselves.
There are a few things that could of caused this that I could think of:
1. A few could have been new or had simple bad luck
2. Lag has caused me to die of starvation as a child at times. If the games lags for a few seconds when I am an adult, I usually have enough food bars to be safe. However, the same type of lag could easily kill me as a child, as children have less food bars and can't go as long without food. Doesn't happen to me often, but something similar definitely could have happened here.
3. Connection problems can be really weird at times. As an example, I was playing in a really large city a couple days ago with tons of people. There was tons of food and everything was going great. All of a sudden, they all start dropping one by one over the course of a minute or two for no apparent reason. It was as if there was some sudden-starvation plague going through the city. I was one of the lucky few who survived. The line almost died out because of it and the city became a shadow of it's former self in a single generation. Weird stuff just happens sometimes.
#190 Re: Main Forum » The New Wiza Famaly with Laws and Monarchs » 2018-08-30 08:39:18
Is this the Wiza family with the giant city? Smith, hospital, and cooking station have their own buildings. There is a railway leading from pen to oven for mutton. There are tons of roads with 3 or four large houses north. Road leading to another village NW. Beautiful rose garden too. Line almost died out when I played a few min ago, but is growing again. Biggest city I've ever seen. I bet the good location of the hospital had something to do with it. It's right next to the main road in the busiest part of town, so it's easy to get to and there are always people around to help. I love that city.
#191 Re: Main Forum » Minor Wounds and Babies with Knives » 2018-08-30 06:11:27
I like the knife idea. Bigger city = More knives = More wounds = More need for medic.
On another note, I found it interesting that you mentioned how rare it is that healing happens when I just came from a life where we healed like 3 people right before I died. I think the hospital location was key here though. It was right along the road so it was easy to reach before death and was also right between the compost farm and smith, thereby ensuring there would be someone around. It is the first time I've seen a hospital get so much use. Admittedly, the bear probably helped too XD
#192 Re: Main Forum » Item wishlist » 2018-08-30 05:47:12
Being able to cut Berry carrot bowl with knife
#193 Re: Main Forum » N/A » 2018-08-30 04:08:44
What is this?! XD
Thanks for making me smile
#194 Re: Main Forum » The Last Girl » 2018-08-30 04:00:44
I just came from gen 22 of that line! My name was John (nameless mother). August's line is still going!
#195 Main Forum » Why do you play OHOL? » 2018-08-29 13:22:13
- VioletLily
- Replies: 9
There are a lot of games out there and here you are playing this one. Why is that? What is it about this game that keeps you playing?
You see, I rarely stick with games for long. After I accomplish everything a game has to offer, I see little reason to stick with it. There are very few that I continue to play after I run out of new content to explore. Those I do stick with are usually what I would consider the "Best of the Best" games. This one seems to have made the list somehow. It is even rarer for me to participate in the game community and yet here I am.
That got me thinking: Why do I enjoy this game so much? Why do others enjoy this game? What is it about this game that makes people want to play it? So here I am asking you the same questions.
I personally love the community aspect of the game. I love that what I accomplish in this game helps others as well. I love how attached I can get to my in-game family. I have also gotten strangely attached to everything compost related in this game: Compost Farming, Compost Making, Shepherding and Mutton Pie Making when the situation calls for it, and even hastily taking care of berries if they are really struggling. I also love that things are constantly being improved, like how bowls/plates/ingots are now stackable (It's crazy how much smoother cities ran with that simple change).
I'm sure there is a post like this somewhere on the forms, but I think it is important to keep some positive feedback going. Jason deserves thanks for the game he gave us and positive feedback is just as important as negative when moving forward.
#196 Re: Main Forum » First time cursed 5-6 times » 2018-08-29 04:31:38
Am I crazy or has there been an unusually high amount of new players over this last week? I wonder why.
I am usually a very patient teacher when I come across new players, but it is hard to teach in pure chaos. I find myself far to busy trying to keep the village from self-destruction to teach adequately.
I guess things will mellow out eventually as this batch of newbies learn to play. Although, that sparks a question. As this game gets more popular, will this chaos become the norm?
#197 Main Forum » The Kiah Family » 2018-08-28 10:34:24
- VioletLily
- Replies: 3
I had one of the best OHOL experiences I've ever had! (Albeit on of the least productive)
I was an Eve in a (semi)decent spot and all my babies deserted me except for Hope Kiah. As a baby, she heard the bell chime and we were surprised by how close it was! When she was grown, we set off south towards the bell. I had a son along the way, but sadly he died from starvation when he couldn't be fed. (Sorry son. I love you.) Soon after I was killed by a wolf that lunged at me from behind a tree. (I still have a grudge against that wolf. Evil thing.) Hope promised she would continue the journey on her own.
I was then reborn in a city and named Wolf. I set off to make stew. After years of stew making, there comes Hope, claiming she came from far up North! I told her who I was and we were both so surprised! I was even able to meet my grand-babies and great-grand-babies as time progressed! I have to admit, I spent a good deal of my second life talking, which is unusual for me. (I am usually the hard-working no-breaks compost guy.) It really is situations like these that make the game for me though.
Hope, if you see this: Thank you so much for being so awesome! I'm so proud of you! Because of you, the Kiah line lived on. It was a pleasure playing with you!
Ps. To the person I promised I would make stew: I'm terribly sorry. I failed you. I did pass the gauntlet before i stopped, but I'm unsure if they continued themselves. Again, I sincerely apologize. Thank you for teaching me how though! I will definitely take that knowledge with me in future lives.
#198 Re: Main Forum » One man built a town » 2018-07-27 22:20:53
The problem with baby suicide is that towns are hard, its more fun being like eve's grandchildren, a spot has been found for you, but there is still plenty to do. I hate being in a finished town, it just feels pointless since the tech tree essentially ends with sheep. So you have new people who dont know how to do anything, making a developed town intimidating to them, and vets are bored and dont want to waste an hour not advancing a civ. Just wait for more shits on the tech tree and it will get better.
I can understand how cities can be intimidating for new players. Jobs are often a little more complex in cities than in early game. I think cities are the best places to teach though. You don't need to worry about that early-game rush to get things done. I taught a guy to compost yesterday. I barely finished teaching him before I died though. Poor lad. XD
As for the vets though, I find it odd that so many find cities boring. I can always think of ways to advance the city I am in further, and there are always jobs to do. I would think vets would be better at finding a worth-while job in a city than some of the newer players. Maybe they just like the early-game rush?
I do agree that the tech tree needs to advance a little further but this definitely takes work and time on Jason's part, so I will be patient. 
#199 Re: Main Forum » One man built a town » 2018-07-27 16:35:34
I was Berry, Ender's granddaughter. I did notice the location was a little odd, but the camp had actually grown quite well despite this. We had an excess of food and things were going well. Sadly, it wasn't meant to be. My mother Sweden had 2 girls (me included) that stayed. Sadly my sister Kinda perished by snake bite with no living children. As the only girl left, I was desperate for a daughter. I had eight children and only three of those stayed (sadly all sons). All others ran off at birth. We were so desperate that we ran after the last girl, begging her to stay (I was very close to old age at this point), but she showed no mercy. We then all set out on a (very) desperate search for an Eve with no luck as far as I know. I try to make the best of any situation I am born into, and believe me I really tried with this one. This was one of 2 towns (almost 3) I witnessed die tonight. All because people kept suiciding. The other towns were really nice too. Nice locations with a lot of resources. I have never seen so many people suicide before. Many mothers went entire lifetimes without one child who stayed. There is no way that cities will be able to grow if this keeps up. It's sad really.