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I'm guessing it's just the server population fixes

Alright, this is what the changes are going to be.  Tomorrow I'm going to be busy so might be until friday/saturday till the server gets up and running again.  It's a decent amount of changes so I may need to test them out with some guinea pigs

1) Iron will be infinite (collapsed mines regenerate very quickly), milkweed will give thread instead of stalks.  Mostly for griefer proofing, but helps with grind a bit

2)You'll need to actually sign on with an email-hash and key.  If you don't know what that is, it doesn't affect you, so don't worry about it

3)All players will spawn as eve, they will be automatically be assigned an unchangeable last name based on their unique login which persists throughout all their lives, and when thrown into the world their movement will be initially slowed for a brief period.  So if a griefer is identified and caught, they can be chained killed.  The slow period will be brief enough to be shorter than a murderer's kill timer, so if there's only two people on one can't chain kill the other unfairly.  The slowing part isn't coded yet but looks like it will be easy.

4) Will go through with shutting down the server during dead hours daily.

5) No client download, the list of changes doesn't seem to bad.  But it does mean every time we update the game to jason's changes things might be unstable.

Honestly I think this is all that's needed.  It won't eliminate griefing but it should contain it enough that I'll be happy keeping the server on for most of the day.  Also, now that we're requiring the normal login, I can permaban anyone I catch causing serious trouble >:D

Edit: Hmmmmmm... actually I'm not so sure about this ticketServer thing.  I'll have to talk it over on discord.  I'm kind of surprised this even would be allowed to work for security reasons and it does anyways.  Wouldn't that mean you could trick people into handing over their steam login stuff to your server?

Yeah I don't like that idea, I'm going to scrap it unless I get the okay from someone who's more experienced in this area.  Maybe there's a better way of handling this such as making people immortal period and causing lethal weapons to inflict stun instead.  It's not like death even means anything on the server anyways.  That's probably more work, though.  Le sigh.

Edit: After doing some more digging, it looks fine to use the official ticket server, it uses encryption on the client and ticket server end, so it's not like if my linode gets hacked anyone loses anything xD  I'll proceed with that plan then, since I'm just using the official client.  Huzzah!

The median citizen is a massive drain on town resources.  So anything you do has to have a huge impact in the long term.  And while theoretically gathering cacti fruit might be just fine, all you're doing is feeding newbies in maybe two generations.  Keep the current town fed, but leave a bigger mark.

Besides, lets be real, horsecarts with baskets are pretty much endgame anyways xD  You can do any number of incredibly useful things.

Well reading about other servers, they seem to deal with this by making people use a password or something xD  I'd hate to gate it like that, but it might need to be the long term solution.  Even if I can give myself wizard fu to deal with this one guy I'd have to have people always online to monitor stuff since people can do a lot of damage in dead hours.  Tough issue, since this game wasn't really designed with property in mind (yay communism!)

Anyways, too tired to do the whole sebang tonight, but I'm working on it

Okay here's some of my thoughts, would mind some critique before going to bed.  I don't want to make a game others aren't interested in, but I think these are reasonable, since most people like this just for the continuity:

1)Other servers I've read up on have essentially unlimited gatherable resources, which lionon also suggested earlier, and I think we will have to go this route:  I'm actually not at all interested in "the struggle" of long term resources (it just means longer, boring hauling, how fun)  and I don't think many people playing on this server are either.  Thus, if a griefer is playing at a time when nobody else is on and hides a bunch of crap, we can just rebuild it pretty quickly.

Mostly I'm just talking about milkweed and iron as the game currently works.  As grim and I found out, clay/reed is basically infinite xD  If this requires a client download, we'll have to do that as this seems important, hopefully, not though.

2)This might take a while to code, I have no idea yet, but we're going to want permanent identifiers for people and a curse system that makes it easy to eject people for at least a short amount of time (very low curse threshold for a short amount of time).  Like, people get their names permanently by saying "I am X" exactly once, and they will sign on as that with no way of removing it.  If that's not possible, I'll work more with what I can do.

3)At least until we get some sort of critical mass and more permanent solutions, I'm going to turn the servers off when I know I can't be online for very long stretches of time.  We already know the server is saving things when I turn it off now, so it should be safe to do so.  Will suck for those people that are only online when I'm offline, but I'd rather not have a griefer screwing things up for 5 straight hours.

4)Murder will remain in the game, and in fact will be made even easier as I have time.  This at least will slow a griefer down if there's not enough people online to curse.  Because people are essentially "immortal" its mostly just a slowing mechanism, right?  Probably going to turn off graves so there isn't a mess if someone is defending the town at an awful time.

But the long story short is that I will end up needing to make a lot of changes, so don't get too emotionally attached with anything, as I might screw things up.  Hopefully, we'll be back soon, might be a bit, though

Heads up everyone:

O.o wow I saw it.  That's impressive, how did you get it in there without everything escaping?!  I think someone else will probably kill it tho when they want to milk cows xD

Though I could always just make a separate pen for cows instead.

Ah nice!

Hah, I think we lost both our cars already.  Niether in the town, north or south.  Luckily we've got plenty of iron, but I'm legit making a locked garage before making another engine xD  I think one may have just been in use, though.

Regarding temperature, I read that thread that you just linked, and looks like jason plans on changing it according to a quote.  Sooo.. I think I'm just gonna be lazy and see what he does xD

It should look like this:

And remember to check use custom server

@antking I just got in, and linode shows there's been traffic lately too.  Can you screenshot what your settings are?  You can't just click the link in the OP if that's what you're doing haha XD

As for rails, big issue with rails is the iron cost.  If we get a stack of 50 so we can play around, which we had before I made oil and the car, sounds like fun!

As for where, I dunno, to be useful it'd have to be super short.  Only thing I can think of is transportation to and from the oil rig, which is close but a bit of a walk.

Well.. someone's been busy xD

Okay so I've been experimenting with iron runs with the car, and if anyone's interested (and knows enough of the server to be able to find one of the two cars xD) this is the best method I've come up with for mass iron harvesting:

Divide runs into two types: Mining and gathering.  On both runs, take a FULL tank of keresone and take it with you.

1) For mining runs, 1 tank of kersone, a mining pick, and two stantion kits

2) For pickup runs, just take 1 tank of keresone and 3 baskets.

And the idea is we do a whole bunch of mining runs before pickups.

This way there's no worry about finding where the mining spot is, since you just don't care: eventually you'll run into a previous mine and pickup.

I also suggest the iron dropoff is not in the capital, as it'll just get used up instantly xD  People might see 200 iron and think "wow this iron is limitless!" When it just gets harder to get over time.

Like.. maybe it shouldn't even bo road connected.

Anyways, I didn't lose the second car, I just moved it to the other hiding spot.

Car #1 assembled!

It's currently hidden, I'll plop it in town once we get a proper locked garage.  If someone wants to work on that be my guest.  I think we should hold off on any more cars until we get some more iron, though.

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to make a bell tower and keep it ringing just in case someone takes a car and forgets a home marker.

1) If the tiny amount of time it takes to make a decent sized pen for sheep is too much, you're getting to sheep too fast.  People seriously rush composting when they don't need to.  My advice is never make a sheep pen:  Someone else will always do it too early for you.

2) Your other mistake is thinking that sheep will "just wander in the general area and you sheer them when convenient"  They don't.  Have fun with all of your sheep being in the jungles 10 miles away or when 3 sheep derp around your smithery.  You can't just sheer all the sheep or you will run out of sheep.  You can't just sheer all but one, or it might wander off.  You can't just sheer all but two or three or you will have dead lambs everywhere.

3) Biggest mistake with nearly every meta-breaking invention:  You're assuming the next generation will take your advice on how to deal with the invention.  They will not.   Even if you tell them how.  In painstaking detail.  They will do the opposite immediately in comical fashion.