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RodneyC86

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Registered: 2019-05-11

Posts: 467

Re: Regret with griefing

Huh, that's more drama than I ever have in over 100 hours of play.

I mostly leave a drama scene , but I guess that's boring for some people, and I'm quite avoidant.

Anyway, sad to hear you want to go back to griefing, but is a free OHOL world.

Chaos4Horseman

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Registered: 2019-06-11

Posts: 23

Re: Regret with griefing

Anyway, sad to hear you want to go back to griefing, but is a free OHOL world.

I don't necessarily want to go back to griefing. I'm just stating it was more easier to play that way. People seem to support a griefer if they can give a decent and convinsing sob story.

I actually tried another life after wiping them out and didn't kill anyone. I wanted to see if people would let me starve my own children. I said every single baby I had was the same person who wanted to destroy the village. People supported my idea of this. I then let my last child (a boy) live and told someone when my child was old enough that they killed their sister. He got stabbed and shot by arrow by 2 different people.

Next I convinced them that the current person smithing was trying to make a knife, and he ended up shot by arrow. It's like a social expiriment playground in this game! After I grew old I admitted I lied about everything and someone killed me, but I cursed them. That person ended up getting cursed by everyone left in the village.

I don't grief by killing anymore, but I do use lies to see how it plays out. Most of the time they seem to believe me and take action first before asking for their side of the story. Until people learn to actually listen or watch, this game is doomed to be a candy store for trolling.

RodneyC86

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Registered: 2019-05-11

Posts: 467

Re: Regret with griefing

Anyway, sad to hear you want to go back to griefing, but is a free OHOL world.

I don't necessarily want to go back to griefing. I'm just stating it was more easier to play that way. People seem to support a griefer if they can give a decent and convinsing sob story.

I actually tried another life after wiping them out and didn't kill anyone. I wanted to see if people would let me starve my own children. I said every single baby I had was the same person who wanted to destroy the village. People supported my idea of this. I then let my last child (a boy) live and told someone when my child was old enough that they killed their sister. He got stabbed and shot by arrow by 2 different people.

Next I convinced them that the current person smithing was trying to make a knife, and he ended up shot by arrow. It's like a social expiriment playground in this game! After I grew old I admitted I lied about everything and someone killed me, but I cursed them. That person ended up getting cursed by everyone left in the village.

I don't grief by killing anymore, but I do use lies to see how it plays out. Most of the time they seem to believe me and take action first before asking for their side of the story. Until people learn to actually listen or watch, this game is doomed to be a candy store for trolling.

I don't know, maybe stop stirring shit? Just because it's easy to stir shit among a group of people doesn't mean you should.

CatX

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Registered: 2019-02-11

Posts: 464

Re: Regret with griefing

Chaos4Horseman, I know others have complained that people don't pay attention and that if they try to kill griefers, they end up being cursed. I remember Pein and Futurebird talking about it once. I believe Futurebird's suggestion was something along the line of be mindful of how you present yourself when you kill someone.

Yes, as you have noticed it is possible to lead people into terrible acts, and of course they too have a responsibility not to let that happen.

Perhaps your next step is to learn how to use your skill of leadership and guiding people to create a safer environment for yourself when you battle griefers? If you have managed to become a person people trust even before you kill the griefer, your community will be much less likely to turn on you. I killed a griefer once... (yeah I know it's not something that's become part of my gameplay...) As I stood there with a bloody knife, I kept saying "She was griefing. She murdered a baby with a knife." Nobody killed or cursed me. I'm sure it helped that the griefer had behaved strangely, and that people had noticed me helping around. I had more trust than her.

I even killed a person once by mistake. (I was going though the items in a backpack on the ground, and this was before shift+click. The person moved onto the same square just as I picked up a knife and tried to switch it for something else.) I said I was sorry and told everyone it was a mistake. Nobody cursed or killed me in return.

Of course, if your business is killing griefers, then there will eventually be some who misunderstand and who respond in less constructive ways. But there probably are ways for you to shape the environment in your favor, especially for someone who has displayed skills of leadership.

Chaos4Horseman

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Registered: 2019-06-11

Posts: 23

Re: Regret with griefing

Chaos4Horseman, I know others have complained that people don't pay attention and that if they try to kill griefers, they end up being cursed. I remember Pein and Futurebird talking about it once. I believe Futurebird's suggestion was something along the line of be mindful of how you present yourself when you kill someone.

Of course, if your business is killing griefers, then there will eventually be some who misunderstand and who respond in less constructive ways. But there probably are ways for you to shape the environment in your favor, especially for someone who has displayed skills of leadership.

I wonder if Jason could add something like an uncurse that takes a curse away from the cursed individual. Basically like the person who cursed that individual has like 10-15 minutes to uncurse if they realize they've cursed them by misteake.

I've actually had some nice recent lives where nobody cursed or killed me for catching griefers because I was either a humble gardener or I was babysitting the babies. I even got an eve to join our village and dismantled our knives (except 1 for bakery) and swords, hid the arrows, and wrote notes so the eve could understand us and we taught each other our languages. Although there was one individual who made an arrow and got the bow to kill a young girl from that eve family (about 3rd or 4th generation). We saved her though, and I used the bakery knife to kill him. Since people knew me they didn't curse me, which was nice. The person who killed that girl though got cursed by 17 people and I'm sure they must've been sent to donkey town. Funny thing, I've never been there, so I don't know what it's like.

By the way, this is a question that is a bit off topic, but how do we change our names on this site?

Grim_Arbiter

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Registered: 2018-12-30

Posts: 943

Re: Regret with griefing

By the way, this is a question that is a bit off topic, but how do we change our names on this site?

Pretty sure the forum names are set in stone. You might be stuck with your name.

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Chaos4Horseman

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Registered: 2019-06-11

Posts: 23

Re: Regret with griefing

So today I decided to see how people react to a witness claiming to see a murder. I was in the Bono village tonight and told our queen that a guy killed a baby (that didn't exist) and she didn't go and ask anyone what truly happened. I had the queen follow me and she hit someone with a bow when I pointed out a random guy.

Next thing I know the queen got stabbed, the stabber got stabbed, that stabber got shot by bow, then about 10-15 moments of peace. After the peace I decided to claim that the queen killed all my babies, to which a white knight came to help and shot the new queen with a bow. Eventually a guy (named Phoenix) kept healing a real killer after they got stabbed (3 times if I'm correct), and he told me that people are trying to find a justifiable reason to kill. I told him that I bet he wouldn't be able to stop himself from doing that act as well, to which he challenged me back.

I told him that all the violence was caused by the race we were, to which he eventually got pissed off and shot me with an arrow and he got stabbed by the newer queen. I cursed him, and 11 others did too. It kind of shows how horrible and messed up humanity is. We don't look for ourselves, we just believe whatever is trendy at the moment to fit it!

ollj

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Registered: 2019-06-15

Posts: 626

Re: Regret with griefing

yeah white knights and naive dumbasses with bloodlust are easily explotable griefers that you just need to supply with weapons to see some murders.

you just wasted time chatting, when all they need is a weapon for greed.

AmberA

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Registered: 2019-07-02

Posts: 168

Re: Regret with griefing

"To all those thinking I'm griefing in a bad way, what I actually do is I attack people outside of my family"

Griefing is when you intentionally annoy another person. You are going out of your way to make someone else miserable. Why would it matter if that the other person isn't your family? Because that non-family member is still a HUMAN PERSON behind the screen. Killing that person is ruining their hour of gameplay. You are stealing their real life time for your enjoyment. Yes that is griefing.

IMO all killing is griefing except when you are stopping a griefer.

ollj

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Registered: 2019-06-15

Posts: 626

Re: Regret with griefing

real time strategy and pvp mmo is always grief in competitions, cry more there.

Last edited by ollj (2019-07-15 18:11:41)