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had to pay attention as kids mistakenly took the small parts and carried them away

sammoh wrote:

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That sounds a like a great idea to be honest. As the game comes along and allows for more sustainability in settled regions, this system would allow for warfare between settlements or families, and make a civilization something to be cared for and protected. Naturally however, one guy with a sword and armor would still be able to take down an entire village, so perhaps you should make it so that those items can only be forged in pairs of two so that there is always another player that checks the balance. This wouldn't prevent an organized Discord troll duo of course, but it'd be a step to prevent a bored scrub from instagibbing everyone solo as easily.

@jasonrohrer

jasonrohrer wrote:

You can see who was murdered by cause of death in the family tree browser.

Last time I ran an analysis (two months ago, when griefing was at its peak and murder was easy to do without getting caught), about 1% of lives ended in murder.

Not sure what the rate is today.

2 months ago ? you must be joking
but maybe that's why for you is murder not a problem at all
& it seems, i must be just imagining things, right ?
you just tell yourself further that murder is not a problem in a game where victims are left helpless

maybe i should rather suggest for you to add canibalism, that would be a joy for the murderers to play, finally a new food source, yay !

@Kami_The_Man

maybe you just don't play often enough to be killed often enough to complain

i am not killed now either, because i don't play the game anymore

i've been killed farming
i've been killed by the own child
i've been killed for nothing
i've been killed as kid
i've been killed holding my kid
my murderer laughed
my young mother was killed while i was a baby
i've been born multiple times next to bloody corpses
i've killed once a murderer of a mother caring for two kids, all members of the lineage i founded as Eve
i've died at 59 trying to help out with killing a mass murderer
i was several times entrusted with knives
i have fairly enough with scenarios of killings & murder in a game that claims to be about parenting & civilization building, not a word about slaughter of helpless civilians
& i don't even count all those killings of griefers i've encoutered

& what do you mean by "getting killed by a knife isn't a problem at all anymore", since when is it "anymore" ?
last time i played it was may 28th & that was the last straw to the pile above
& you can get killed by bow & arrow as well, since you apparently don't know

btw
i am not complaining about being killed
i am complaining about NO protection from murder, NO prevention against murder, NO cure for murder & NO consequences for the murderer
i am complaining about the complete helplessness of a murder victim & the favouritism of killings in OHOL
i do not know one single game where the killers are being favored while the victims are being misled into the belief that the game is not about killing

Trusted, the point is that a village needs to get good at detecting these intentionally backwards players and dealing with them.  The only way to deal with them is to kill them.  So killing them has to mean something.

If a village is ignoring the griefer operating right under their noses, there's nothing I can do for them.  You're right that there's no way to auto-detect that.

All I can do is give them a poweful tool that they can use if they are paying attention.

Right now, the tool is just not powerful enough.

Someone has suggested a "dance on their grave" mechanic of some kind.  Where a village, after killing a griefer, can curse the grave spot, which prevents the griefer from being born in that area for some period of time.  The more people that participate in the curse, the stronger it becomes.  Maybe it takes three people to ward the person away for 30 minutes, and each additional person who joins the dogpile will add an additional 30 minutes.  A whole village could ward someone away for half a day or more.

That idea is becoming more appealing to me now, and I can't currently see any downsides to it.  It will take some coding to implement, so I'm still thinking about it.

However, the karmic ladder adds an interesting metaphysical structure to the game beyond just dealing with griefers.  It has a bunch of downsides, though (splitting up the player base, giving new players a worse experience, etc.)

people are stupid and do stupid shit

you could in theory kill a baby machine who fucks up a good start by having 10 kids but people dont understand it
if you kill dont let any witnesses

people die on their own yes, but some dont understand population control, and make babies, 3 hour ban for babies is stupid, yes, but testing kids would be necessary, like can it follow or stand in a good spot
i kindnap kids sometime and if they run back they are good enough, if not they would only waste food and take clothing outside where no one finds it

also i try to never gear kids when we got no gear, let them take clothing on their own
and steal backpacks from kids who put it down, as they lack of basic controls, a pack is no use for them

most people are selfish and bad intended, like taking tools without asking, had to make 3 chisels and found a small stone hut at old age, i needed that stupid chisel, or at least tell me to make another

is totally fair to kill someone who waste your resources, time and disrespect your work
yet it wont archieve much

other run i made my own settlement, and moved out, next life i moved back, both were fun runs as i escaped from overpopulated city and ensured survival and nowadays i try to lock up stuff or move out a bit further so noobs dont disturb me

i made tons of milkweed and wheat the other day, they just used up all milkweed without making new, people didnt even bother to cook the ready pies, so my distrust is often proven right
sadly you dont have time to preventive measures or when you do you dont really have reason, but i seen that i need to do that

I understand the need for population control and often tell my kiddos that I’m sorry I can’t keep them (and have often been left to die as well). However I can’t take your argument seriously when you admit on another thread that you wiped out an entire town and you were the last left (and a male!). At some point you just have to admit you are doing it for fun and not out of the benevolence.

Eclipciz wrote:

YAHG wrote:

Why should people respect you when you don't respect them?

Kills someone
Its for your own good man

mfw..

I may not respect them in game (via killing, I’m usually nice in chat) but when sticking to a debate, it’s better for it to be a intellectual discussion about an issue without attacking someone personally instead of the central idea

Trying to split contexts with people is usually a loosing plan, they will just leak from one into the other. In the game you are
kind of a cunt. Then in the forum you are trying to justify it to people..

They ain't gonna see it your way, they are gonna get pissed at you. Not only may you have actually murdered them in game
(out of the blue as they saw it in game most likely) you are also arguing in favor of all the other people who murdered them.
Your positioning yourself as a wise dealer of death who deserves to decide who lives and who dies and how many. While also
being an emotional stand in for all the other murderers who they are still holding grudges against .

This will surely work out well

Now that you have instigated people emotionally you come back and say 'chill bro be civil'. Sure, yeah, civility is usually good
thing but you are the truce breaker. This would be like me going up to someone and punching them in the face and then being
like dude chill I just want to talk it out, don't take it personally..

Unlikely lol..

Yours is not a great place to start a moral high ground against all those mean hostile people that are pissy you killed them.

Bad plan buddy </3