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Yeah that was the whole idea of the job/specialization system, everyone would have a specialization and eventually trade would happen because it would be the best/most efficient (costing less ressources and time) to do things and the better way to run/evolve a civilisation, but unfortunately due to how poorly and simplified the job system turned into "tool slots" was implemented and because of how the game is structured, infinite respawns, infinite world, infinite ressources etc.

It simply didn't happen.

Regarding men and women i think women being the only one being able to give birth and breastfeed and men by opposition being able to work more makes a good enough difference.

But of course since you dont really lose much by abandonning your child then that difference becomes insignficant.

Abandon your child, work on your project, die, respawn, use a mod to find the coordinates of what you worked on, get it back, profit...

And from what i've seen so far "in next life" doesn't seem to be much more interesting in that aspect, but it's still very early and not even officially released so maybe could change.

Hmmm so you really think his delusionnal logic makes sense, interesting, did we found a spoonwood number 2?

Yes when i told him to "get a life" and he tells me "i am alive so i have a life", it totally makes sense, that's absolutly what i meant by that, he "destroyed me" for sure.

"Oh so you think spoonwood is not enjoying posting here and that is why he should get a life?"

Yes

"It's you not me"

Never mind i was wrong you're not pretending you're actually 100% dense, also you never asked me to explain to you what it means.

You're unironically like a child that answers with "no u"

get a life?

I'll have "cinnamon fries" with a large slice of "peppercorn berry pie" and some "truffle flavored mangoes"

Honestly you can only blame yourself for that one.

You could have used an already existing game engine like Unity and have the same results if not better and you could have easily outsourced most of the coding for dirt cheap, plenty of extremly skilled coders that have very good rates on sites like fiverr for example, especially since it's not a 3D game.

Then all you had to do was drawing, code the bare bones and do some thinking.

Instead you CHOSE to code an entire game engine from scratch and sink multiple years into it, an end up with an extremly limited engine that continuously has issues and is a nightmare for everyone that actually digs in the lines of code.

If everyone that made a game coded the entire engine they would probably learn to tie rope knots too at the end of it, but you made it in one piece, almost, congratulations...i guess.

You have your pride, Jason's "20 year of game development i know more than everyone but pretend i dont" experience, with an exhaustive list of games that could be featured on an old flash game website, this makes me a master chef since i cook on a regular basis.

Yes you can say it "i made this game entirely myself" (minus some nitpicky code borowing), was it worth it though?

What did you really gain from doing it this way?

I'm not good at everything, i'm pretty good at problem solving and thinking outside the box, having a different perspective etc but put me in front of a piece of paper and tell my to draw something and my level of drawing is pretty much kindergarden levels.

You on the other hand you're a pretty good artist not only at drawing but writing and just the way you see things in general BUT you're not really good at solving design issues, seeing the different pieces of the puzzle, the overall perspective and how all the different pieces interact with each other.

Btw this is why it was such a nightmare trying to explain to you different design concepts, it would be like you trying to guide me trough drawing complex elements, and sure enough it ended in very mediocre if not bad results like the earth like limited world that turned into the rift or the job skill system that turned into tools slots.

So, really, why try to do everything on your own, what really was gained?

Now we are faced with the reality, the game is ok on a surface level but in reality compared to the potential of the original concept idea that you had, it's terribly mediocre, all the systems in the game are forced fake mechanics, instead of an organic and natural experience, which makes the game extremly bland an uninteresting to play, it has only value for how many recipes you can make, which is why a lot of players are crying to have more recipes, it's one of the only interesting aspects of the game, without MORE and MORE recipes added you become bored, a multiplayer memory game with some faint aspects of parenting and survival.

And now correct me if i'm wrong and as i understand you're pretty much over with it, cant really blame you after "five years of full-time work".

So yeah congrats you made it all on your own...time to pop a bottle of champagne i guess.

All of this at the cost of the game itself and all the fun and great experiences that the players could have had.

If in retrospect you would have done it completetly differently and if you realise that doing it this way is completly unrealistic, then fair enough, everybody does mistakes it's part of the process.

But if it's all a matter of some god like pride complex, or any other weird reason and the game being good is only secondary, then it's really unfair for everyone you tricked into believing in this project and that are now left with this game...

Personally i think the truth is probably in between those two.

Or maybe you're just entirely satisfied with how the game is and you pretty much would do it the same then ok, but in that case you presented it in a very untruthful and fallacious way, think original no man's sky promises or fallout 76, same kind of vibes.

Because the way you painted that picture and the way i can see it, this game would have been amazing.

Dont get me wrong i enjoyed the time i had here playing the game, thinking of ideas and interacting in the forum for the most part, but i dont see this becoming really much more interesting, at least not with the same developpment mindset, time to move on, will peak on the project every now and then because you never know.

Heh, the irony...

If you have to wait for players to fuck to be able to play then you could even wait 30-40 minutes or even more...

Bad argument is bad.

That's caused by having a shitty pc, it's not an in game mechanic, if you had a better pc it would load faster

3 minutes is not 30 minutes also you can play as a baby your not stuck on a waiting screen, it's a huge difference, you can move, see the world, talk etc, you're not stuck on a black screen that says "waiting for players to fuck"

Irrelevant argument, same as before, comparing waiting on a black screen to actually being able to play but just not having a baby.

Again comparing an actual inability to play the game against being able to play but with less features, then say that we already have that...

Maybe you should realize what's in front of your eyes and stop seeing it for something else.

Yes let me just boot the game then wait on a timer for 20 minutes before i can play...

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, if you cant find a solution that's fine.

There's a misunderstanding here... The reason Jason doesn't think roleplay is interesting is because if the game was done right you wouldnt need to roleplay these situations they would be a real part of the game.

You wouldnt need to roleplay being a merchant, king, smith etc because you would be that person.

In reality he wants to see these roleplay situations that you are creating happen in the game, more than everything, but he wants them to feel as real as possible like if your life depended on it and you where 100% immersed in the situation that you are playing and in that case roleplaying a situation just doesn't have the same degree of immersion, i agree with that.

But the game is FAR from that point anyway...

For me the hook was seeing all the possibilites and all the potential that this game had, everything you could imagine could be part of this game, it was very exciting because everything could happen, a whole world living and breathing with real players in it and infinite possible situations.

In traditionnal games you go from point A to point B going trough C, sometimes you have multiple choices, like using route D or E instead of C or reaching point F or G instead of B.

But eventually once you actually have gone trough it, it's over, you see the limitations of it, and you're done with it.

OHOL had that potential for infinite possiblities and limitless situations.

RIP that game...maybe another one.

It's discord drama

Where would all these new accounts come from?

I let you do the math