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JasonY didn't feel like scrolling up. Hopefully he will see this before too many other posts are made or he's going to have to ask again!

Thank you. I'm glad ya got a laugh from it!

I think they just ran out of any oil nearby. Punkytown didn't get established until a few days after Zucc and because of this, Zucc was just more crowded for longer and so also was burning more oil as well. That's why they are out. I think Punkytown has become the main bell town now pretty much because it still has a good amount of oil. I carefully picked the spot because it had lots of swamp near with ponds, and also desert and jungle nearby for those resources, and even though there isn't any oil like really really close to Punkytown, there is like 6 wells all a short horse ride. The four corners of the sheep pen are waystones guiding people to the nearest oil that's NW - SW - NE - & SE. I think all this helps. I don't know how much longer Punkytown can keep going, but I think for a bit still. The careful planning I believe makes a difference.

Y'all keep talking about how all these teams of griefers are forming possies to kill everyone,. but Jason's data shows almost all murders are still solo acts. Your fears and complaints just don't match the facts, and yet you persist. Interesting.

Yea, I'm getting a little tired putting doors back always. Then again, if popping a few doors off keeps some griefer happy, then it's a good trade off. It's about the most meanless and least damage thing they can do. When I built Punkytown I gave every building many doorways so it's harder to block egress, and of course lots of stone walls. I think it might be harder for them to deplaster walls in Punkytown because its not so spread out. It's easy to see what others are doing. I like the north wall being adobe because you get to hang shelves and that's useful. As for floors, stone floors can be put in anytime for whomever feels like doing it.

I kept the smithy outdoor not because I was worried about it being clocked off, but just it seems that area always needs lots of space. Any inside smithy is hard to make big enough. If you do make it very big, someone is bound to try to make it other things in thee too, and then it defeats the purpose. No, somebody made a second smithy down in Punkytown in the building right below where I set up the smith area. I guess its useful. I think of it as a tool shop, where as the outdoor one is the multi purpose main smithy.

The long hall with the blue wall I was thinking would be a dedicated hospital. It still could become that I suppose. Useful to have near sheep to make pads and threaded needles, yet away from the forge/kitchen/nursery so people aren't always in there looting the supplies. Honestly, I'd like it if Jason gave a little more time to heal, but only a person wearing an apron can pick up clean pads in bowls. IDK,

It would be nice if there were enough people to always have a full time nurse, and they could just keep hospital locked. When they get old, they can find someone to take over and pass the key on. Then people cant easily mess everything up and wreck the place, and a nurse can just lock in someone they heal if they are a suspected griefer. If course, this can easily already be done with property gates.

After the reset I managed to be the Eve for the short lived McKenzie clan. My second born came over at about age eight or so and told me I had a black bubble for her, and she had cursed me in some prior life. I said, "Wow! You must curse literally everybody, because the way it is now you can't be born to someone you've cursed unless there are literally NO mothers anywhere that you haven't cursed." She said, "No, that isn't how it works." IDK what to tell you kiddo, I literally just read that in the update notes.

Well, if one can get a group all on board to cause the apocalypse then it's actually impossible to stop if those involved are even halfway competent. However, one or two lone individuals haphazardly going about it will consistently fail if there is a group acting to stop them.  It's actually how the game is supposed to function. Smaller and less organized groups, or individuals are supposed to fail. That isn't always how it works in OHOL, but it is something Jason seems to strive for.

Now of course, if the individual just keeps trying over and over, sometimes the many will just not be watching, or will grow weary, or whatnot, and the little guy will win due to indifference. Right now, far too many do not want a map reset. This world hasn't been going that long. Maybe better luck in a few weeks.

I'm not going to spell out how to successfully make an apocalypse. To those attempting, I hope y'all don't figure it out. I can let you know that there is a team being very watchful and communicating info, who play alot, working to keep if from happening right now. You, or whomever, is probably wasting their time. It isn't wasting my time at all. I personally love thwarting things such as this. It's the most fun I have in OHOL!

Are you using Jason's version of the game or one of the modded versions?

Oh noes! Yea, we real worried. Because griefers always take so much time to care for babies I'm quite sure. Again, you show that you chat more than think. How is the griefer going to mark the "heros" and then abandon them when they birth them as babies. Go on, take a think on that one.

And I'm sorry to tell you but you're outnumbered vs. cooperative players. Idle threats of. "Oh, we minority will mark you!" are meaningless. What are you going to do to a marked player? The same shit you already were doing? Instead of murdering you, Imma gonna murder you! Uh oh, we wouldn't want that! You have no cards to play so STFU. The best you can now hope for is to mark players that watch you, so you can know to not grief around them. Good, do that. I hope one of them is always around.

If if y'all are "vehemently praising this", then griefers might just be as dumb as I think they are. Or maybe you're just unsure what vehemently means. Things that come with more downside that upside typically aren't praised "vehemently", so ya know.... I'm actually just going with no griefer is praising this in any kind of way, and you're just spewing BS hoping some cooperative player might be dumb enough to think this is bad. Yes, telling people smarter than you that 2+2=5. Gangbusters of a plan there. Really solid.

This is perhaps the best suggestion you've ever made! In fact, the "art project" incorporates a second bell tower at Punkytown.

After I pretty much finished the core layout I stepped back because it's interesting to me to see what people would do. For instance, I like that someone turned one of the stone buildings I constructed into a garden and everyone just left it like that so far. Originally my thought was it would be the carpenter shop. Anyway, I was curious if someone would build another bell tower, but alas so far they did not.

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In regards to what has happened in town there are a few things I don't like.

1) The six waystones (or so) someone put in the nursery with "instructions" for everyone to wear colors to match the job they are doing. I like the idea, but it seems impossible to actually pull off. That's a bunch of floor space wasted for a pie in the sky idea. I'd rather they had dropped that outside if they had to, or at least put floor down first under the waystones.
2) Attempts to make it a walled city. I've torn down all those walls. Pine walls I don't mind as much, or a stone wall further out with big openings for entry/exit. Anything else I see as an attempt to grief the town, so were removed.
3) The attempts to take over the long hall with the blue wall "Castle" by putting locks on all the doors. I've removed and destroyed at least a dozen locks until they finally gave up. Whomever was doing that, you didn't build that building. It isn't yours to claim privately. Trying to do so is stealing. Go make your own building if you want to lock it up. That's public property.
4) People who dug up wild gooseberry (free food) to put in some crap they didn't even finish. I took great care to build around existing free food. Your shitty, now collapsed, building could have gone a few spaces to the west or north, etc.
5) The griefer who build four little swastika at all corners of town and tried to take horses out into wilderness. I hope you had fun, they lasted less than 30 minutes. I did use that stone to make my "art project" so I do appreciate you helping haul all the flat stone. The time it took to tear up your graffiti was less than it would have taken me to get the stones myself. Also, every life as I'd run back into town from other places, those horses were a great help getting back. Thank you for your efforts.

Anyway, I could have removed those waystones with the silly instructions but I didn't want to take that much time, and I was kinda interested to see if anyone would do what they say. They stayed because I allowed it. Everything else, not so much. Basically if someone wants to mess with a town, they really should pick another spot of they don't want to waste their time. I'm ever present in Punkytown. Just a FYI.

In the venn diagram of OHOL gameplay, it's in a shared set.

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Of course, to trigger at apocalypse it seems lots of tools, and clothing, and carts, and food and such all get stolen and taken to the far corners of the world where they are hard to return, effectively removed from the game. Players are murdered as babies to get the endstones.

Sure, a nice team of apocalypse bringers could stab and heal each other. Nobody actually has to die. They could all ride out to their spots naked, eating berries along the way, and return their horses before they die. They could have no impact or take nothing from other players right up until the reset is triggered.

But alas, that isn't how they operate. Stealing, murdering, and ultimately destroying everything everyone has built or is building? That's pretty greifey actually. The only way an apocalypse trigger happening not being griefing is when the world has been going for long enough, and something is messed up about that, and so a large segment of the players want it to happen. Like, for instance a couple resets ago when everyone was getting spread out 10k tiles because of the Eve spawn bug. I had a road built that was over 7k long but a fresh start seemed like a good idea. I don't think anyone really tried to stop the apocalypse that time. I'm not sure if anyone was especially bothered by it. But I'm sure whomever caused still got there via a road of greifer actions.

Being cursed as a mother is a valuable gameplay experience. Especially in Bell towns where there's plenty to go around. It's a learning moment. You have to experience poverty to appreciate wealth.

Yeah, it sucks to have a smart kid that curses you even if they know you have other things to do. Sometimes the next Mother Theresa gets cursed by an infant Hitler. That's life.