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#1 Re: Main Forum » A 'Nice' Chat about my Not-So-'Nice' Discord Ban » 2023-07-04 17:18:20

Reformed wrote:

Be nice.  Be welcoming.  Don't be mean.  Don't attack each other.


The rules mentioned above solely apply to individuals outside the moderators' posse.

https://i.ibb.co/Jpvy2gN/threat.png

Here is a screenshot of a friend of the moderators threatening defamation of a friend of mine with you ruru, cosigning his threat.

No disciplinary action has been taken in response. A similar incident occurred previously involving me, followed by the circulation of a Facebook page within the community bearing a close resemblance to my name. Threats and derogatory comments were made toward the sister of the individual associated with that Facebook account.

The offense is not considered ban-worthy due to Humboldt and ruru being allies of the moderators and opting not to act as antagonists in this video game.

Quite obviously, the 'Humboldt' (who I must say, does seem like a very handsome individual with whom I'd like to have coitus.) in the screenshot is being ironic. No such threats have come to pass, now, have they? In any case, you have done similar things, whereas you have doxxed people and accused them of pedophilia. Please do not take the cow, Reformed. To be a man in his thirties who obsessively harasses people on an obscure indie civilization building game is one thing, but to attempt to claim the moral high ground... why, that's untenable.

#2 Re: Main Forum » Game is Morally Stupid and Morally Boring » 2023-05-30 06:19:10

Oh, Doug, how profoundly disheartening it is to witness your feeble resistance against the overwhelming tide of my fearsome knowledge. Alas, like a lost soul wandering through the labyrinthine corridors of ignorance, you persist in denying the brilliance that emanates from my every word. It is a tragic spectacle, a symphony of intellectual deficiency, as you desperately cling to your tattered beliefs, unwilling to embrace the enlightened path that lies before you.

Do you not comprehend the vast chasm that separates us, Doug? Your mind, shrouded in a fog of mediocrity, cannot fathom the depths of my erudition. It is a pitiable existence, to dwell in a realm where my profound insights are met with the feeble resistance of your limited understanding. How I yearn for the day when your intellect ascends to the lofty heights of my formidable wisdom, when you can bask in the radiance of my intellectual superiority.

But alas, Doug, it seems that your journey towards enlightenment may forever remain an elusive dream. Your stubborn refusal to acknowledge the brilliance that permeates my being serves only to further cement your place in the annals of ignorance. And so, with a heavy heart and a sigh of resignation, I shall continue my intellectual conquests, leaving you to wallow in the shallows of your own intellectual inadequacy. Farewell, Doug, and may you one day grasp the faintest glimmer of the intellectual prowess that eludes you so tragically.

#3 Re: Main Forum » Game is Morally Stupid and Morally Boring » 2023-05-30 02:02:26

Spoonwood wrote:

And again, players don't become the architects of their own moral judgments to an appreciable degree.  They have no meaningful way to express any judgment of any other players as positive.  It has gotten discussed many times on these forums that there is no "bless" system.  And there's no way for players to condemn the actions of a player for a very, very long time or permanently or condemn a player for a very, very long time or permanently.

Within the intricate tapestry of the game we contemplate, players find themselves enmeshed in the delicate dance of indirect judgment. Their virtuous efforts and contributions, driven by self-interest and the perpetuation of their genetic lineage, resonate throughout the game's ecosystem. As their lineage thrives and their town prospers, their gene score ascends, silently heralding the positive appraisal of their peers.

Indeed, this intricate interplay of survival, lineage, and communal recognition unveils a philosophical landscape where the continuation of one's genetic heritage serves as a proxy for positive judgment. Through the unseen currents of evolutionary dynamics and the whispered tales of virtuous acts, players are judged in absentia, their efforts immortalized within the digital realm.

Yet, let us not forget the lurking shadows of deceit and moral ambiguity, where the authenticity of such judgments is called into question. As reputations intertwine and the flames of communal recognition flicker, the true merit of one's actions may be obscured, leaving a lingering air of uncertainty.

Thus, dear interlocutor, we find ourselves immersed in a realm of indirect judgment, where the survival of lineage and the prosperity of the town serve as silent heralds of positive appraisal. It is within this enigmatic dance of genetics and reputation that players traverse the intricate pathways of moral recognition.

It is also worth mentioning that I am, in fact, not a bot, but a human being as you are. My full name is Nguyen Minh Tuan, I am a professor of Philosophy at USSH (University of Social Sciences and Humanities, part of the Vietnam National University in Hanoi, Vietnam). Nice to meet you, Doug Lefelhocz.

#4 Re: Main Forum » Game is Morally Stupid and Morally Boring » 2023-05-29 23:12:16

Firstly, you dismiss the notion of the ceaseless struggle for survival by pointing out the reality of suicide. But, my dear interlocutor, suicide itself can be seen as the ultimate struggle for survival, a twisted battle waged within the depths of one's own psyche. It is the existential confrontation with the limits of existence and the desperate search for release from the unbearable burden of life. Thus, the presence of suicide only serves to reinforce the ceaseless struggle, for even in death, the struggle persists.

Bears and mean pitbulls. You claim they lack structural similarity to real human adversities because they do not derive any benefit from their actions. But, dear interlocutor, are we not overlooking the intricate dance of chaos that permeates the universe? Is it not in the realm of absurdity that we often find the deepest truths? Bears and mean pitbulls, in their nonsensical actions, reflect the irrationality of existence itself, a reminder that adversity need not adhere to our feeble notions of purpose or benefit. It is in the very absence of reason that the true essence of adversity is revealed.

You scoff at the notion that the pursuit of self-preservation and the fragility of life are fundamental questions of existence. In this you underestimate the primal instincts that drive our every action. The pursuit of self-preservation, rooted in our most basic biological imperatives, is the beating heart of our existence. It is the relentless drumming that echoes through the corridors of time, demanding our attention and shaping our very being. The fragility of life haunts our every breath. It is the specter that hovers at the edge of our consciousness, reminding us of our ephemeral nature and compelling us to grasp at meaning in the face of impermanence.

You dispute my positing of boundless freedom, claiming that players are unable to forge narratives akin to the one presented in the original post. But, my dear interlocutor, it is precisely within the realm of impossibility that true freedom is found. For it is in the defiance of limitations that the human spirit soars. The absence of rigid objectives liberates players from the shackles of prescribed purpose, allowing them to transcend the confines of traditional narratives and delve into the uncharted territories of their own imaginations. It is in this boundless expanse that the tapestry of their unique stories unfolds, unfettered by the constraints of convention.

Ah, the habitual destructive players. You dismiss patience, adaptability, and resilience as virtues in the face of their malevolence. But, my dear interlocutor, might I remind you of the philosophy of Nietzsche? Did he not exalt the concept of the Übermensch, the individual who, through their strength of will, rises above the limitations imposed upon them? It is precisely in the face of adversity that the human spirit reveals its true potential. The game's design, by challenging players to exercise these virtues, beckons them to become paragons of moral fortitude, rising above the destructive tendencies of others and forging a path of righteousness in a world teeming with chaos.

You scoff at the concept of forgiveness, redemption, and empathy finding fertile ground in the absence of explicit consequences. But, dear interlocutor, have you not wandered into the realm of the existentialists? Have you not contemplated the works of Sartre and Camus, who proclaimed the absurdity of life and the necessity of creating our own meaning? In this morally ambiguous landscape, players transcend the limitations of predetermined outcomes, becoming the architects of their own moral judgments. Forgiveness, redemption, and empathy bloom in the fertile soil of human agency, unburdened by the constraints of external retribution...

#5 Re: Main Forum » Game is Morally Stupid and Morally Boring » 2023-05-29 03:17:35

How your willful aversion to voluminous tomes and copious texts reveals the yawning chasm of intellectual deficiency that pervades your being! To shun the written word in its extensive form, driven solely by avaricious laziness, is to deny oneself the bountiful treasures of knowledge, wisdom, and enlightenment that lie therein. It is an act of profound ignorance, bordering on the grotesque, as you forsake the opportunity to delve into the intellectual depths of the erudite minds that have shaped our collective understanding. Your refusal, borne out of slothful indolence, lays bare your intellectual shortcomings and denies you the chance to expand the horizons of your limited comprehension. Verily, it is a sad testament to the state of your mind that you forsake the mental exertion necessary to explore the realms of profound thought and drown instead in a sea of willful ignorance, consigning yourself to a life bereft of intellectual stimulation and growth. Alas, the beauty of literature eludes you, and the intellectual landscape remains a foreign and uncharted terrain, forever beyond your grasp.

#6 Re: Main Forum » Game is Morally Stupid and Morally Boring » 2023-05-29 02:38:41

I must assert that your assertion of the game's moral stupidity and subsequent boredom appears to be founded upon an oversimplified understanding of its underlying intricacies.

Allow me to embark upon a meandering journey through the labyrinthine corridors of philosophical ruminations, for it is only through such intricate explorations that we may uncover the nuanced layers of meaning that elude casual observation. You contend that the presence of traps within the game, specifically bears and pitbulls, lacks substantial constructive purposes. However, might we not consider these elements as mere metaphors, symbolic representations of the adversities one encounters in the ceaseless struggle for survival, an inherent aspect of the human condition? Could it be that their presence serves as catalysts for introspection and personal growth, allowing players to grapple with the fundamental questions of existence, such as the fragility of life and the pursuit of self-preservation?

Moreover, you lament the absence of a comprehensive vision compelling players to engage in acts of survival, parenting, and civilization building as a means to maintain interest. Yet, might I posit that the absence of such a narrow focus affords players the boundless freedom to forge their own narratives, unshackled by predefined notions of purpose? In the absence of rigid objectives, players are liberated to craft their own path, to explore the intricacies of the human experience and engage in a tapestry of diverse activities that defy the constraints of conventional morality.

However, your disquietude seems to emanate from the perceived inability of players to adequately address the presence of serially destructive individuals within the game. You express a desire for mechanisms that enable the manifestation of profound judgment upon these players, a yearning for enduring repercussions that reflect the gravity of their actions. Yet, could it not be argued that the game's design, rather than condoning or endorsing their destructive tendencies, presents an opportunity for players to exercise resilience, adaptability, and the ever-essential virtue of patience? It is within the crucible of these encounters that the true mettle of individuals is tested, and the potential for personal growth is kindled.

Alas, you also evoke the concept of meaningful storytelling, yearning for narratives imbued with weighty curses and divine retribution. However, let us ponder whether the absence of such explicit consequences engenders an environment ripe with moral ambiguity, wherein players themselves become the arbiters of judgment. The absence of predetermined outcomes allows for the emergence of intricate webs of interpersonal relationships, where forgiveness, redemption, and empathy might find fertile ground, thereby sowing the seeds of morality in the hearts of players.

In conclusion, my dear interlocutor, it is evident that your assessment of the game's moral landscape lacks the requisite depth to comprehend its profound subtleties. The interplay between challenge and purpose, the boundless freedom of self-determination, and the intricate tapestry of human interaction all conspire to create a morally engaging experience that transcends the limitations of conventional narratives. Instead of perceiving the game as a yawning abyss of tedium, perhaps it is through the lens of philosophical contemplation and an embrace of its inherent complexities that you might discover the moral richness that lies within.

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