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I'd love it if we end up with a game where any biome is livable with the right tools and equipment. Ice biome with igloos and super warm clothing from seals, maybe add ice bears. Grassland with wooden huts, desert with tents and linen clothing etc.

But I think this would be outside of the scope of Jason's game plan to be honest, but who knows?

As it is I would be happy if we could just move away from the eternally same farming setups. Towns do not need to be centered around giant berry farms and it's such a massive sink of effort and resources.

I've tried going different ways in my eve camps like heavy foraging and fast popcorn, but people just won't eat it and they will not farm it. If I tell people to make a berry farm, they make 100 bushes. If I don't tell them what to farm they still make 50. If I tell them explicitly not to farm berries, they will still make about 30 bushes lol.
And later, when we got stew and pies they will also not eat it. Yesterday we put four pots of stew next to the berry farm.... the four pots never were used up but the berries sure were emptied and fixed and eaten again several times, using a ton of compost in the process.

I don't know how but this meta gotta change.

I see myself as Eve, the creator of the camp and I feel responsible for setting things up so that the future generations can actually survive. Long term survival is my main goal. I have a set of tasks and I need to do them in a limited time and if I don't, the camp most likely dies out.
You're suggesting that I take time out of these tasks and devote them to teaching people. I could do that. But it would mean that absolutely essential stuff doesn't get done.
I can see that there's a trade off where teaching increases productivity and I'm ok with trying to go for a bit more teaching. I'm just not willing to do it at the cost of the camp's future.

I guess this made me realize that I am not building my camps for newbies to live in. I build them for people that at least know how to survive. Maybe newbie isn't even the right word. I mean unwilling-to-learn-people. Because a newbie that is willing to learn can stop being a newbie within a day or two. A person unwilling to learn never advances from the newbie state, basically. And those are the kind of people I don't want to waste my time on and I don't think that's gonna change.

"being sent with FOOD and IRON"

"only minimally different"

Yeah no.

I'm a terrible mother in big towns. I would be okay with raising a reasonable amount of babies that are able to follow basic instructions ("stay on warm tile, baby!"). But in my experience that's just not possible. I cannot abandon any children without some random person adopting them within moments and then feeding them with the most inefficient food. Young girls especially like to do that for some reason. In fact they usually like to do that with my non-abandoned children too. I am not a dirty berry muncher, I like to put my kid on a good temp spot and then go work and periodically check on the kid. That is  just not possible. I regularly see that after just 15-20 seconds someone will have grabbed my child, fed it some crap and/or brought it over to the berries.
So at some point I basically stopped caring for most of my kids. Because it really doesn't matter if I try to feed them, if I try to put them on good spot or whatever. Some other person will choose to come along and be the surrogate mother and waste way more food and time on them then it would have taken me. So why should I bother exactly? If I try to care for them it will literally just lead to more overfeeding.
If there's a snowpile near town I usually just take excess kids there and snowball them when nobody looks. Any less discreet way is bound to create incredible drama because people get so, so upset if you try to kill babies. They will curse you or kill you or at the very least start a several minute discussion which ends up wasting more time/resources than it would have cost to just raise the damn kid.

Sometimes I see these people running around complaining about mothers not taking care of their kids. "I've raised like 10 babies cause you idiots couldn't take care of them". I wish they would understand that maybe, just maybe, some mothers made an informed choice that this and that particular child wasn't worth raising and everything would be fine if you had just let them make those decisions over their own damn offspring.

So yeah... people are too generous towards babies indeed.

Lu....so what you are saying is that you and other griefers messed up the player experience so hard that a well meaning player like me cannot enjoy the official servers anymore and need to move to private servers instead. That's pretty fucking sad you know.

Here's the thing: he enjoys playing this game and he enjoys playing it this way and there is really nothing preventing him from doing so unless Jason changes.....something. Telling him that there are different options which would be more enjoyable for us is pretty meaningless, isn't it? There is nothing forcing him to change so from his perspective he simply doesn't need to.

I gotta be honest, this thread is the most disheartening thing I've seen since I started playing OHOL and I've seen a lot of crap in game and out. Knowing that people like this exist and knowing that we are all now on one server and there is no way of escaping them... it doesn't make me angry or even sad. It's just this numbing feeling of my effort seeming pointless, a sort of apathy creeping over me.
Makes me wonder, do I really want to keep playing, should I really try my hardest if this is what I'm up against? I'd much prefer just getting pointlessly stabbed every other life to this.

Alas, the only one who can change this is Jason. He created this playground and he makes the rules (or lack thereof) we play by. I wish I could share his approach of expecting people to be mature enough to solve issues among themselves but I really don't see it working in the state that the game is in now, sadly.

You're never better off listening to somebody that just "likes to eat". Kinda missed the point there....

Different people like to play in different civs. Many like late civs, I like early civs, some only like playing Eve etc. These people will always suicide when they don't get the (type of) civ they want.

For me when I do find a civ that fits (so for me super early civ) I check a whole number of factors and then decide whether to stay - does Eve have a last name? Does she know what she's doing? Does the camp have water, heat, grassland etc? Are people nice enough or are they all pricks? Are we managing our recources well? Basically, does this place have a future? You can usually see these things at a quick glance.

I tend to go down a checklist and only stay if most my requirements are fulfilled. That might sound selfish but it only makes sure that I play in a place that I actually want to play in and where I am willing to give my everything to the cause.  Nobody is forced to stay anywhere and /die is not a dick move. Expecting players to stay in a place they don't actually enjoy playing in is the bigger dick move imo.

It's a fun challenge and it makes me uncomfortably aware of how much faster my smithing could be

Glad you found a solution for our Russian comrades in farms

Damn, this is not what I had in mind when I started these civs lol