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Also, curses should not be constrained by character limits. It's not fair for a person to murder an entire town of people and get zero curses because no one has the character limit to actually curse them.
If you murder someone with a knife, then click on the teleporter, the knife leaves your hand and the slow down goes away. Then you can pull out other knives from your bag and murder anyone who came to see what happened. Repeat until you've murdered the entire town in a matter of moments.
Just happened to me.
This seems like a hack that needs to be fixed ASAP.
Superfun2 wrote:The thing is i got to Donkey Town because someone made a curse note of me when i spawned as Eve in a town and named my self Amyx also like 4 people cursed me when i did that
Why would someone make a cursed note of you if you are innocent? Likewise, only if you did something they would make a cursed note of you. If a greiver made that note, than why would he choose you instead of other people?
It happened to me. Guy came up and cursed me out of nowhere. I was literally just watering/tending the berries, and he came up and dropped a curse note with my name on it. I tried to hide it behind a tree, but I accrued a number of curses because of it (not enough to actually get cursed, though).
It's just another way of griefing.
Trick wrote:Is no one going to mention that Donkeys are also called Asses?
Something tells me that that's not a coincidence.
I assumed it was a Pinocchio reference, all the bad kids in Pleasure Island turn into donkeys and taken away to the salt mines or something.
Oh snap. Didn't even think of that.
Multiple meanings. I like it.
Think of it this way...
Players are the judges and juries for each other. A curse is their vote for you to be 'jailed'. When you get enough votes, the jailor (Jason), sends you to jail to do your time. Once you've done your time, you can come back to society.
Since there is no real way of having a 'jail' in game (without it being totally abused), the 'jail' becomes a bit of a purgatory. Donkey Town. OHOL's version of old time Australia.
I think this is a great solution. You get to play with your fellow trolls, and the rest of us get a reprieve from your nonsense. And, since you don't like it, it should work as a good disincentive to continue griefing when you get to join the rest of us.
Is no one going to mention that Donkeys are also called Asses?
Something tells me that that's not a coincidence.
tana wrote:But i agree that the curse should have more consequences than just being recognised because of black speech and possible future marks, if it helps us recognise a bit easier truly toxic players, it still doesnt detter them very much from continuing their toxic behaviors, some persons truly have no mindset other than ruining other players game as much as possible. And I can't think of any other multiplayer based game that doesn't have some kind of reporting system. And I'm not talking about murderers, those are usually just wannabe griefers, always dealt with some varying succes.
Because... Curse is not supposed to deter anyone. Its supposed to be a tool for people to know who to watch out for and who to exclude from their society. Its up to YOU to banish this person from your society or just kill him.
Is it really so hard to take responsibility for that into your own hands? I understand that milenials prefer eferything to be done for them by others, but come on...
Curse is a tool for intel. Action stays in your own hands.
The problem with this is that it doesn't serve as a punishment to the griefer/toxic player, but rather serves as a burden to every other player.
The system should punish toxic players or serve as a major deterrent for their bad behaviour, not burden everyone else.
IRL, we don't say "Ok, we're letting the murderer live in your city... it's YOUR job to be extra vigilant and ensure they don't continue murdering people and/or murder you". That would only terrorize the regular citizens, and any logical person would think that's insane. That's effectively what happens in the game, currently.
Freedom of speech? No??
The USA is one of few places that allows hate speech. It's probably one of the reasons why you have a problem with Nazis, police murdering black people in cold blood, immigrant children in jails, Trump, and walls (to name a few).
Obviously your 'freedom of speech' is working out really well.
Black characters introduced to the game has probably increased the use of the N-word by about 5000%.
I should probably stop playing this game. It's making me hate humanity both in the real world and in the virtual world.
I have gotten really jaded about this, and have taken the policy that if you like griefers so much to raise/keep them, then I will give you more of it.
So, yesterday and today... if the town lets the griefer stay, I join their team and start fucking shit up. Spam eat the food. Chop up all the rabbit skins. Hide shit.
If the town is going to inevitably get destroyed by the cursed person who everyone is protecting, I might as well join in on the fun. Otherwise, I am just frustrated and annoyed like everyone else.
So I spent half of my life preparing and chasing one cursed child/young adult. We've been trying to get each other for a long time, but there were little weapons around. At some point we met among many other people and I start convincing that we don't need any griefers in town - there is a reason he got a bunch of curses before. He obviously didn't liek my speech, so he cursed me and it worked just fine - sound plus some color in his curse speech bubble. Then obviously I had to curse him back - and I didn't use my curse token for a long time, many hours of gameplay. It just didnt work. "Curse Dennis Dawn" did nothing. Other people start doing the same around me, multiple times, none worked, we all were pretty disappointed.
Here is a link to this guy: http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=1045497
I search family trees and I saw there was another Dennis Dawn who died 2 days ago. Can this be a cause?
Sorry that I don't have any more debug data, hope this helps and you'll find a bug.
Oh and I finally got the griefer in the end, he killed two people before I got him, but it wasn't critical to the town, they happily lived for another 5-6 generations. Funny thing was, that when I driven my knife into his guts and he went to hell, another cursed baby popped right where we all were standing. It was so obvious it was the same guy and I couldn't be more happy to kill that asshole twice. Everybody cheered and were super relieved that we got rid of him with minimal casualties.
I don't know if this is intended, but you cannot seem to curse a player who is already cursed. I thought the whole point was that the curses would multiply if they continued to get them.
But what difference does it make, anyway? The entire cursing system simply doesn't work. The cursed person gets born to towns, as usual, and there are some idiots who revere/protect them. It turns into a badge of honour rather than a punishment. Not a big incentive to not get cursed, really.
Trick wrote:Booklat1 wrote:I like how pein gets shit for caling people feminazies in game when that has actually being a strategy. It's not even like he is saying this about real life women, like wtf trick is it really him being toxic?
Is comparing people who advocate for equality to nazis and nazism toxic?
it is when you take it out of the context he used ffs
Edit: i don't agree with his later comment or comparing actual real life feminists with nazis, my point is that he was clearly using the term for villages that killed all boys (which is, as far as I know genocidal)
There is nothing in the OP that says they were killing all the boys.
Also, there is no context, in my world, where comparing feminism to nazism is not a toxic, shitty thing to do.
Even misandry isn't on the same scale as what the nazis did.
Feminist=/=feminazi. Feminazi is a term used for people who are in the extreme side of the spectrum.
Feminazi is a term specifically used to silence and attack women's rights advocates, and those who support women or what is feminine. The goal is to delegitimize and demonize those who endeavour to achieve equality/equity for men and women by making the very idea of parity seem like it's extreme, irrational, crazy, or anything else akin to nazism (which I think most rational people would agree is the prime example of horrible human behaviour).
It's an absolute farce to say that the term is actually used to identify people on the extreme side, because it's not. This thread is a perfect example of that. Pein used it in this thread, which was innocently about a roleplay about amazons. There's absolutely nothing extreme or misandrist about that. And yet, he felt the need to refer to the OP as a 'feminazi', not because they were extreme, but because they dared to find value in a female society (in a damn game).
Trick wrote:Booklat1 wrote:I like how pein gets shit for caling people feminazies in game when that has actually being a strategy. It's not even like he is saying this about real life women, like wtf trick is it really him being toxic?
Is comparing people who advocate for equality to nazis and nazism toxic?
I may be wrong, but I thought that term was used when people display misandrist characteristics. They do not advocate for equality. Rather the opposite really. They are the extremists of the feminist group. I myself don't really like the term as it really has nothing to do with any kind of Nazi group. Misandry is misandry, and should be called as such in my opinion.
That being said, I think it is kind of silly to apply either of these terms to this situation. That is unless they were actively speaking out against men as a whole, rather than simply aming for a only-girl community (which game mechanics fully allow). These are very serious accusations. You shouldn't be surprised when using them lightly causes offence.
(Reading it again, the actions of Shelly were extremely suspect. Rape is never a joking matter)
Do you mean misogyny?
Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls.
Misandry is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men or boys.
People who say "Feminazi" are very likely misogynists. The term was popularized by the woman-hating lunatic, Rush Limbaugh, and is used almost exclusively to project hatred toward women and women's rights advocates.
To compare a group of people who want equality to the nazis is beyond any bounds of reason. It's simply absurd, and a person who hates the endeavour to make women equal to the extent that they will put them on the same scale as nazis is a person with serious problems, IMO.
ETA:
I just realized I misread your comment. NM.
I like how pein gets shit for caling people feminazies in game when that has actually being a strategy. It's not even like he is saying this about real life women, like wtf trick is it really him being toxic?
Is comparing people who advocate for equality to nazis and nazism toxic?
Not being able to swap backpack items is my biggest gripe with this game, also accessing backpack behind a wolf hat is an issue.
So, if item switching in backpacks was an oversight, does that mean not being able to swap items in full containers is also an oversight?
Yes, the wolf hat thing is absolutely a problem. So much so that I refuse to wear one because it has screwed up my ability to access my backpack one too many times.
jasonrohrer wrote:Whoops, that's an oversight on my part. Will fix it.
Did we just get this extremly annoying problem fixed with a single forum post?
LMAO!
This has been a major annoyance for forever...
and boom, it's fixed.
It's interesting because sometimes what we think is by-design is actually a mere oversight.
I've played this game a lot. Probably too much. But in doing so, I have become an 'expert' at early stage mechanics. Starting up a camp is boring to me because I've done it 10,000 times before. It doesn't challenge me. It doesn't intrigue me. Instead, it actually feels like work (especially when I am the most experienced and am effectively keeping everyone alive by being a workhorse). That isn't fun.
This is a game, and I want to have fun. So, unless I am in the mood for an Eve run, I will often suicide to Eves. Maybe that makes me an asshole, but I justify it by being a really good player otherwise (I never grief, I work my ass off 98% of the time, and I play benevolently).
If I want to spend an hour of my day playing a game, I want that hour to be an enjoyable experience - not me slugging away at something I've done many times before. If you were to turn on your gaming console to get an hour of gaming in, you aren't going to return to play level 1 over and over. And if someone forced you to, you'd eventually stop playing because what's the point?
Punishing people for suiciding is a bad idea, IMO. Jeez... we hardly punish people for being royal pieces of shit in-game.
It sucks when your Eve run doesn't work out... I know, it's happened to me many times before. But, that's how it works out sometimes.
Trick wrote:SomeRandomPerson wrote:The place isn't what you had planned and yoi think to run. You notice the towns all men besides your mother and people are begging for you to stay. Let's also say that mums gone old just after your birth.
If you name me Hope, then yes. I will suicide.
I am otherwise a very nice player, but I will protest the name Hope.
Yeah, this has to be the stupidest reason to suicide. Even above not having a last name. But I guess if that's what you want, have at it.
I am protesting stupid, overused, and uncreative names. I am sick to death of the dumb name, and I hate being named it. So, if you name me Hope, I will kill myself. If people realize that naming their kid Hope is going to lead to their suicide, they might reconsider using it and instead find some creativity in their heads.
The place isn't what you had planned and yoi think to run. You notice the towns all men besides your mother and people are begging for you to stay. Let's also say that mums gone old just after your birth.
If you name me Hope, then yes. I will suicide.
I am otherwise a very nice player, but I will protest the name Hope.
feminazy towns always suck
Your idiocy has no bounds, apparently.
Tell me. Twins plus more should be a good thing via friends playing together. Why kill just twins? I’m looking at you Tarr.
Unfortunately, twins are known to grief.
Also, if one twin dies, the other usually suicides.
It makes the time and resources to keep them alive not worth it.
Omfg Trick, I was jax, walrus was dax, funeral was max, and Ribbz was Taya! That was so funny! Thanks for not killing Taya when the mom wanted you too hehe
No problem
I very rarely kill people... and I certainly wasn't going to kill the poor kid with the bad name. Haha!
I was laughing so hard IRL, though. Having the 4th kid have some ridiculous name that didn't match was just killing me. It was like the ugly duckling, but with a name.
Haha!
I was in a town where quadruplets were born. We named them Jax, Dax, Max, and then the mother tried to name the fourth Tax (weird, but whatever)... it came out as Taya.
I lolled so hard.
You are consistently the worst player I encounter. I have actually started identifying you just by who is being the biggest jerk.
You're rude, disrespectful, and annoying in game. If people don't do exactly as you say (which is an order mixed with chastising, rather than an explanation), you murder them. Instead of helping the town, or even nicely explaining to people how things work, you would rather spend your life finding the resources to murder people. You act like you're the only one working even though there are 5 or 6 others who are doing just as much, if not more (while you run around creating a bow and arrow just to murder people). You also murder people just for fun. How you aren't permanently cursed is beyond me.
Your game play sucks, and then you come here to cry about it over and over again.
Here are some tips on how to play:
- Stop being rude and disrespectful. If you haven't learned by now, people don't respond well to your approach.
- Try explaining to people NICELY why they should consider doing something. If they don't do it and they aren't *actively* griefing, move on with your life. It's players like you who make this game hostile to new people who are learning.
- Recognize that your way isn't the only way, and get over it. Despite all your complaints about how terrible your mother did in that game, our village thrived.
- You don't have to murder everyone who doesn't play the way that you want them to. Go be productive and actually contribute something positive to the town.