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So now that Temps been rebalanced, We'll need clothing if we don't want to be eating constantly.
Clothes are limited, Especially early on. You aren't gonna be able to fully clothe every kid. Nakeds will just eat all the food and probably still starve.
So keep less babies but make sure they get clothes.
you know I was just waiting for you to make that post Bob and I don't think people will stop having children, old habits are hard to break!
and I had an idea of having maids/grounds keepers in every building, to maintain fires, close doors, plaster walls, fur floors, stop locks, and help with the task in the room (if your maintanig a bakery you would help bake, forge you help forge etc.)
so people will probably have more children!
I managed to be born into a decent-sized functioning village this morning. They were keeping themselves alive by making a steady stream of pies, stew, turkey and broth. Tons of rabbit meat as a byproduct of all the clothing making and a decent number of people wearing sheepskin or better. The graveyard was HUGE.
During my life, I saw people build walls around the village bakery. Four doors to allow easy access and minimize risk from griefers. It took several players working hard to haul material in carts, but it got done. However, I wasn't really convinced it was worth the time investment.
Wood floors are good. Bear rug is even better. But walls only work if you fully enclose the space AND build a fire AND keep all the doors closed. Not fully enclosed ... fire goes out ... someone leaves a door open ... suddenly your fancy bakery is no better than a floor-only bakery.
Only time will tell if true buildings are useful enough to make it worth the hasssle of opening/closing doors and keeping a fire going constantly in multiple areas. Also, you do not automatically path through a closed door, so you have to be careful where you click if you are racing to the bakery on an emergency food run.
So I guess now we need maids and care takers to, keep rooms at a descent temp, close doors and maintain fires, while assisting the worker of the room... they should also work to plaster walls and make sure that doors don't get locked
I have a feeling this is a way to trick people into making a scrap book.
spoonwood, the reason some lineages stay alive and some dont, is because some lineages got peopel who work hard for tech
i seen people who say 'we dont need forging, we need food'
food for what? food is gaining time, i dont have to play 40 minutes to see an attempt is futile, i got 5 sisters, we got 2 soil pits, we got a cold camp, they eating berries, not everyoen gonna make it, and thats all right, if they cant stay alive, i dont need them, i dont owe them to feed them all their life, they need to be able to feed themselveswhy do camps die? no food? thats because no one can cook the eggs and rabbits, cause no branches
there is a point when its not laziness that you dont have branches, its because getting some, takes 10 minutes, the biome is empty, you missed the deadline for the axeno food cause no soil, because you dotn have a shovel to dig the soil pits for more soil, and no water cause no shovel to make a well
no pen cause no tools to get enough adobe/stones for pen
all this 3 can be solved with iron only, and startign it early before the baby boom. maybe 3 kids die cause i make tools, 15 will die if i dont
especially pro kids, who see your camp and quit, no tools? puck this place
then everyone who left needs to be fed all their lifesand this doesnt even cut the first hour, cause you need 8 iron to make a mine, shovel and hoe isnt even needed for it but you need to make one after each half hour without a steady supply
plates shouldnt even be taken from forge, but if people do it, hunting yum wont solve that you got 20 plates with 10 bites on them and everything stagnates cause you wait the plates to make more pies
you dont save more time with yum, than producing pies en mass and compost
even making eggs or burrito is same thing as yumming if you do fast enough and dont waste muchmaking compost gives back the soil/water invested 10 times , so even eating berries while making compsot is better than yumming
ofc havign some carrot, stew, pies, popcorn helps but living to eat rather than eating to live isnt do any good for others
one berry on each bush means you already wasted time on regrowth, 3 bites missing on one pie and one on other, means you already wasted time on producing more piesi dont yum chain for long, but im net positive by far, eating mutton pies i make from scratch
seems like you would love to be a hermit!
I like the Idea and I think seeing how the game is going adding the nightshade variances would be thrilling! Also scary as some species of nightshade is poisonous and it would be funny/scary if you were trying to domesticate a... tomato, and it turned out you were actually messing with the poisonous variant, causing you a quick death...
to the yum Idea I believe that we should scrap that idea as the yum system doesn't make any since. I think we should have a nutrient bar, with lets say, with vitamin A,B, and C (to keep it simple) and every food has different a affects to this bar, as each food has different nutrition value! and over time they would go down as your body uses up the vitamins.
I think your Idea is great and hopefully you posted it on reddit for Jason to see it! I think that this would be a big update!
FUN FACT Honey bees are actually invasive species from Europe!
may be we can use the trash pit! a mechanic, that I haven't seen used much, in the past our ancestors didn't burry one grave at a time, they would dig a huge hole and dump a lot of bodies into it, later using it to farm! only important leaders got buried and recognized. I think if we could dump bones into a trash pit that would nice! and then once the trash pit is full you can wait for one minuet and get one basket full of fertile soil!
the reason its so little is that the compost we have now should be the main, and the trash pit with stakes should just be a side provider. as it only costs one shovel usage for the trash pit it will be a great option as you can put in 20, bone piles into it! It should also fit bones of animals!
one thing is for sure, that things can only get better by the players actions... Jason will have to registered these, problems eventually, and I am sure that over time the game will mold (as it always has) to improve game play for the entire community... however the community also includes griefers, and so does real life, and no matter what you do people will find a way to cheat the system,
yes their are some major issues with the game right now but, we must adapt as the player Basse because one man can only do so much.
I hope thing will improve for the better, and that Jason will address some of the issues, and remember Jason wanted this to be a reflation of reality, and in reality their are crimes, we don't live in perfect world!
I swear I could never do what Pskout or solbusaur did I am incapable of doing thing over an over and over again, which is usually bad for the village as their will be a lot of half finished projects all over the ground.
we could make a time capsule made out of iron, that acts like a basket.... allowing you to place three small items, then you burry the box and it will be safe after the apocalypse! once you buried the capsule you won't be able to retrieve it until the apocalypse has happened, making a revealed time capsule! (can't be reused)
I agree. I've witnessed both recent apocalypses, and honest to god had no idea either one was about to happen until two seconds before. Sure, there are multiple chimes as the tower is built, but don't those happen hours apart? More ominous warning would be good.
May be at the second to last chime should be a melody! that plays for a about ten seconds
i have been alternative being useful and discovering the mystery of the cards
learnt today that the decks do not have normal odds, you can have many multiple identical cards!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ … 1653132016
i assumed as much after discovering the magic trick but needed to be sure, so no honest gambling can be had! it seems the RNG favors the six of clubs but could be luck
well it makes sense, in truth your just sticking a pile of blank paper into simmering dye and some how you get an ace of harts it makes sense that some cards will be mismatched.
karltown now I know what you are doing once you get banished to DONKYTOWN... shish now your making me wonder if some of those mouflon babies were actually yours! no wonder you want to get sent to DONKYTOWN, you want to be alone with your animals!
may be we should have a nutritional, value bar! with different foods having different nutrients, proteins, vitamins, and or carbs. to encourage people to eat more varied foods, and expand the food table! like combining foods on plates too make meals that can be served on a table... such as turkey slice + baked potato + sauerkraut + plate, makes a meal which can be eaten at a table, providing, yum, nutritional value and hunger pips!
Uncle Gus wrote:You forget that if your scheme works, and everyone is born in the same place, then the troll is born there too.
I don't forget that, I just don't know that that makes anything worse. I suppose you have a point though, in that by centralizing everything we create a more inviting target for the trolls. But that's an argument against centralizing rather than an argument against controlling births. Controlling births in the manner I describe will indeed result in centralization... but ANYTHING that centralizes things will have vulnerability to trolls. That's something worth figuring out...
That's true if everything is in the same place then its easier to topple, like a building if you have multiple individual columns its more likely to withstand an earth quake then one column! and with multiple columns the building will stand even if a few are nocked out of place!
on the other hand, having a lot of small columns mean that they are easy to topple, so it might take more destruction, to bring the building down, it would be easy to topple the columns! which is where one large column might prevail! because if a troll tried to kill some eves or what ever they will probably get caught by all the children running around! the only way I can see this failing if all the eves were in an enclosed structure, or their is not enough food to go around....
but this congregation of women hasn't happened yet so we do not know for curtain what might happen! the only way is to let it play out if this ever happened!
Caocao trees could grow in the jungle. You could pick them in a bowl, grind them with a stone mortar & pestle style. Then if you cook them in oven then freeze them in the arctic, becomes chocolate.
ahh that's where you are wrong, making chocolate isn't as simple as we are lead to believe! you see its true that you first crush the coco beans but then you do some thing different! while you might just think you add water to the crushed beans, you don't this makes a extraordinary spicy hot chocolate!
The peoples of modern Mexico, used this method to make a ceremonial drink, where they mixed, ground up coco beans, corn meal, and chilly peppers! to make an invigorating drink frothing with bubbles! the Mesoamericans, even thought that cacao was a gift from a heavenly serpent god!
when the Europeans came they adopted the culture and brought it back to Europe, its bitter taste made it great to treat ailments, such as upset stomachs. but soon they discovered that by adding vanilla, honey, and or sugar made this coca into a popular delicacy!
soon no aristocratic home was complete with out a dedicated hot chocolate set!
this would soon change as in 1828 a revolutionary machine was created!
The coco press invented by the Dutch, it separated the crushed coco prouder into, coco butter and a powder! this powder is now used to make modern hot chocolate because the coco butter is what makes chocolate so bitter!
after splitting the cocoa you can mix the coco butter and powder to make.... solid chocolate! it was not long after that we started to add, milk to make milk chocolate, and all sorts of weird things! so chocolate would have to be a massive update!
i enjoyed the last few minutes of it. being a gate keeper was hilarious enough
oh so it was you! ahh you should have seen the wave of people when you just stopped for a second! I was able to get past you how ever! which I'm proud of!
I was born, my mom was a noob, I could smell it the moment the light hit me! though I had a sister, with lovely locks of gold! we stayed under her wings for protection and courage eventually she died from helping us.... its sad I was still young and my sister only a little bit older then me, but we set off into the wilderness a bowl and basket in hand. once we stopped and I told my sister, once I die I will recount this story to the gods! she seemed pleased and exited with new determination we raged on, once we went to a place so filled with wheat that, it looked man made! from their we crafted another basket for me, then we went to the parulis dessert, with no food in sight we made it to the pig king! We never made it too the king but we were attacked by his servants, thousands of boars, roamed our path. not only that, mud and lakes blocked our path... as though the world was against us. we knew that we might not make it... that's when we saw it a body laying in the ground with bight marks running through its spine.... we weren't alone... the parulis cold drew us in but we resisted and turned where we were attacked a boar as big as me leaped out of the thorny bushes and bit at my hair... my sister chucked me farther, allowing me to avoid this close encounter, however our luck didn't last, soon I felt the grips of death strangling me, and I knew my time was short, but I remembered the promise I made to share our story of triumph, over the forces that tried to stop us! we were powerful and we resisted, until I couldn't and I collapsed with not a drop of food in my belly... I can only hope that my sister is still fighting the worlds darkness! but my part is done I am fading into the shadows, but have kept my promise and all will know of us!
this was our sister hood story from hell
its chaos here!
Jason end the test please!
InSpace wrote:Bob
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((btw I'm uncursed now, only took one houroh well))
that's sad If you need a curse I will give you one for free! I like the sound it makes!
antking:]# wrote:well it wouldn't it be weird if you started to gave birth? in the middle of your great speech? and every one knows that the angel's hell, is the demon's heaven!
LIKE YOU! in donkey town or karletown?It would be weird if I started giving birth. I didn't have to worry about that, though, because I was alone.
I'm pretty sure you just called me a demon, but you know what.. between the snake cults, the poodle wars and the evil laughing I don't blame you
I wouldn't dare point fingers to who is evil and who isn't (insert sarcastic voice)!
well it wouldn't it be weird if you started to gave birth? in the middle of your great speech? and every one knows that the angel's hell, is the demon's heaven!
LIKE YOU! in donkey town or karletown?
Today I started testing each kid. I intentionally made a desert bonfire and placed my babies on them. Any kid with a brain would move away, Noobs would overheat and starve.
I'm willing to admit that larger towns are able to support many babies. I'll be kinder to kids in big cities but I'll still probably dump them on another female.
out of curiosity how many kids averaged were noobs?
you never know what a baby might be.. it could be a noob or a pro. its hard to see that when you can only say 3 letters....
I take care of all my children, because you never know what might happen, if their is a food shortage then with more kids I have a higher chance for my line to be carried on! and you don't want to start killing babies, especially if you don't know who they are!
how ever its your choose of how many children you want and some times limiting births is the best thing you can do! Think of our world where over population is a huge problem and yet people are still pumping three or four kids!
all in all you choose how many kids you want to have, just don't go around pointing fingers or killing babies for no reason, that's just cruel!
I know that the scarifies, of people might be necessary, yet for me it still feels wrong..
take this thought experiment,
there is an unmanned train hurtling at a group of workers, and they won't be able to get out in time, luckily you are next to a switch that will redirect the train, but on the other track their is one worker. now most people would flick the lever as, 5>1.
now think of a sanerio like this you are on top of a hill and, the unmanned train is hurtling at the construction workers, this time their is no switch, but their is a big man next to you, he might be able to slow down, the wild train, allowing for the workers to escape. surprising most people wouldn't push the man off the cliff to save the workers!
no the theory for this is that even though five will always be greater then one it feels more personal if you push some one off a cliff it feels more personal then, flicking the switch and shrugging it of like collateral damage.
It's wrong to kill but is it good for the benefit or self joy of others? this thought experiment is called the trolley ology. I will always believe that murder is bad and instead of instantly killing find another solution, and or go entertain yourself with gossip.. if you want to cause misery and drama to entertain yourself.
however OHLO flips my ideology on its head, as we just keep on coming back! we are to necromantic angles/demons then to humans!
We don't believe in BUNDLING our carrots!
Its against my religion to bundle carrots in OHOL
and what do you expect us to do? put carrots into a pile and use a string to bundle them up for easy transport, affective, and efficient? Are you insane?! The rabbits might eat them, (the ones that stand still next to their hole.. plotting)!