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#626 Re: Main Forum » Drama in the Schuler family. » 2019-02-26 00:16:57
Grim_Arbiter wrote:wondaland wrote:Fun fact I was also a daughter of eve schuler my name was gemma so you would've been one of my distant grandchildren (only my line survived
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Glad Steve survived lol Its generally handy keeping the original as they keep producing lambs in case you're ever desperate ie all sheep butchered.
I don't think I've ever killed a mouflon not getting sheep. Even with the temp update I wouldn't kill one for just its hide. The reason I wanted to save her was seeing someone trying to shoot her with a bow. I asked why, and they said the dead sheep babies created are a waste and clutter.. But if its far enough from the village who cares? I walled off that little green patch on the far outskirts for steve because I felt bad for her after that. She helped us so I helped her lol.
That makes me sad, why kill her just because of her babies
we had one of my nieces tag along and she was quite shocked (new) lol that was entertaining.
I'm going to start naming the farm animals now, maybe even write some notes for them
I wish i was in the town with the snake that was posted here. I would have made sure he had a bowl of water and plenty of dead sheep babies to eat.
Also twisted's new video is from the Schuler village. I honestly didn't think that village would go as long as it did.
#627 Re: Main Forum » Drama in the Schuler family. » 2019-02-25 12:45:22
Grim_Arbiter wrote:I was just there after you. Pretty normal town with normal problems. I did have a daughter that gave me an angry look everytime i saw her. She did it even to my old age. My only drama that life was when the pen got busted and the sheep and orginal moufloun got out. Someone tried to kill the original moufloun when the sheep pen was put back up, but I had already named her steve and ended up building her a nature reserve of her own with snowmens.
Fun fact I was also a daughter of eve schuler my name was gemma so you would've been one of my distant grandchildren (only my line survived
Glad Steve survived lol Its generally handy keeping the original as they keep producing lambs in case you're ever desperate ie all sheep butchered.
I don't think I've ever killed a mouflon not getting sheep. Even with the temp update I wouldn't kill one for just its hide. The reason I wanted to save her was seeing someone trying to shoot her with a bow. I asked why, and they said the dead sheep babies created are a waste and clutter.. But if its far enough from the village who cares? I walled off that little green patch on the far outskirts for steve because I felt bad for her after that. She helped us so I helped her lol.
#628 Re: Main Forum » Drama in the Schuler family. » 2019-02-25 11:04:13
I was just there after you. Pretty normal town with normal problems. I did have a daughter that gave me an angry look everytime i saw her. She did it even to my old age. My only drama that life was when the pen got busted and the sheep and orginal moufloun got out. Someone tried to kill the original moufloun when the sheep pen was put back up, but I had already named her steve and ended up building her a nature reserve of her own with snowmens.
#629 Re: Main Forum » Some people buy OHOL on steam but they can't get their account. » 2019-02-25 06:42:01
Bump.
I've also had this question but couldn't find an answer by searching
#630 Re: Main Forum » Idea: Beard style and different growing » 2019-02-24 23:45:31
pein wrote:First of all, men need an advantage, even if its not gameplay advantage
remove all beards from all men chars and add a new beard minigame, where you can grow it, cut it and have some style
who wouldn't want a hipster grandpa or a braided beard on a warrior?Use beard clippings to make clothes two birds one stone
Grossss lol.
I could imagine using the shears and being able to remove your beard, or girls cutting their hair shorter.
#631 Re: Main Forum » We need more kerosene level tech. » 2019-02-24 23:24:37
Yeah I find it sad that people don't feel the need to learn the end game because it doesn't benefit your village to do so. As much use as a tractor would have I fear you would still run into the problem of people stealing and dumping the things. I think it's just bad overall to have the very top of the tree be a bunch of toys that are better off just ignoring.
What if the tractor drove at the same speed as you run while holding a dug stone? I doubt people would steal and joy ride them then! They'd be a tool tool you'd make and leave by the farms and they'd probably stay close if that was the case. Maybe the engine would only run for 15 seconds, but give you as many tilled rows as you could crank out in that time.
#632 Re: Main Forum » We need more kerosene level tech. » 2019-02-24 08:39:33
Agreed, and i feel like you are right about tech needing to appeal to the masses and have a use. I do have faith that things can be made to push tech to a point where the overall playerbase will stive for technology for both necessity and satisfaction.
While it probably can be argued with, I'd like to imagine the playerbase being split into about 5 ranking categories where people can fall into or in between. What I think separates tier 4 from 5 is knowing all the tech. Both 4 and 5 can both see the bigger picture of things happening or needed in the game (what separates tier 4 from 3) ,but if you cant make it ALL you are a step behind.
What stops me from actually trying to move up to the final tier is what you described, I dont want to learn something that I feel won't help anyone but myself. Sure the airplane can be useful as is, but its not something that I need to build for the village.
Now if the diesel engine got put on a tractor...
#633 Re: Main Forum » Books to read. » 2019-02-24 08:04:14
Speaking of compost I'm kind of sad worms don't seem to do anything? (or am I confused)
I have a box of worms under the sink and they eat veggie scraps and give me free potting soil, which is a big deal in NYC where soil is like $8 for a bag, and I have kind of a large roof garden.
Anyway I'll check out the post.
Worms are for acquiring old boots when you want fish, and fish when you want old boots haha.
As for reading, I don't really read literature, just a alot of informative material. The only author I have read multiple books from was Steinbeck back in school, but I can actually imagine some of those stories portrayed by OHOL characters pretty well.
#634 Re: Main Forum » Tribal Iron Territory » 2019-02-24 04:33:01
If I ever run into a bell town as an outsider I try to bring a basket of iron as an entry gift.
#635 Re: Main Forum » Building Camp as a Single Man » 2019-02-23 06:48:25
Portager wrote:The only drawback is that you might never be reborn into the original village, which would mean that your work was done for nothing.
Well this is true of every main server town right?
That said, I like the idea of close suburbs better, though. You can more easily totally move the entire town over if you wanted, and could maybe even achieve it as a woman.
I love when there are two towns are just far enough from each other, but connected by road. It makes them one town without half the population even knowing about the other side existing.
#636 Re: Main Forum » How many Iron from a vein? » 2019-02-23 06:41:43
I remember like one of the first times making a mine i pulled as them out as fast as I could and I didn't even get 10. I thought "man the gods must dislike pulling with speed" and ever since I've pulled slow and always gotten a good amount.
#637 Re: Main Forum » The instant-suicide mod » 2019-02-21 22:33:34
Anyway, in terms of police, yes, that is part of my vision for the game, and there have been glimmers of police patrols in the game already (that's what the blue clothing was for). People do already limit who is allowed to have weapons in the game, so there are rules forming, and a monopoly on violence.
I also envision wars between villages.
A lot of this stuff may never emerge, but I'm going to at least keep those doors open.
I hope this means more dye in the future 
I could imagine some sort of war between colors like green against the purples!
The other game I heavily play is a ww2 mod for a fps game, and I've had dreams where OHOL characters were running around wearing German and American helmets haha.
Also my worst cold cache start is probably only 12 to 15 seconds, and my computer specs are almost below average now.
#638 Main Forum » I hijacked a temple and turned it into an omelette station » 2019-02-21 21:36:58
- Grim_Arbiter
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So i was just born into a pretty new village that was about 6 or 7 gens in. It was just populated enough to where there wasn't an extreme food demand, but still supply could have always been increased. There were groups of two people working on the pen and a lot of farmers, but an over supply of plates, and an extreme abundance of ponds with geese eggs. There was a temple in the corner where it seemed like it had a bigger purpose than just being flashy, but I decided to make it my workstation.
I helped keep the village afloat with that station. Right when the population boom hit, my omelette station was there cranking out food as the berry fields got overeaten. I did other things on the way for eggs too though, and the flat stone fire only died near the end of my life when i had to mend the carrots and make more plates for the eventual pies.
So If you don't have a pen set up yet, and the berry and carrot fields do not have compost for support, don't forget about your friend the egg! Especially if there is an overabundance of ponds nearby.
#639 Re: News » Update: Temperature Overhaul » 2019-02-21 02:32:19
Also, imagine if I hadn't changed clothing/buildings at all, and had just removed desert and jungle from the game as the only change....
What would have happened then?
I wouldn't have fruit boots or a cactus god to make offerings to!
The fixes today were good though, and I'm confident we ARE adjusting our playstyle accordingly.. It just takes time to adjust and figure out the new norm.
If deserts were eliminated it would be a step back for not only food and temp, but obviously tech. You could almost make a better point that if you removed the snow biome there would be less of an impact on the game right now. I know that there could be some cool stuff that the arctic could bring in the future so obviously I dont want that.
I do feel like the arctic could offer some other food other than a ice holed fish right now though. If there was another wild food in the extreme cold, it might be a good balance for survival. A one time use resource like bananas. Maybe like some kind of nut that needs a sharp stone to get.
Show the nuts some love! They are a great foraging food in life.
#640 Re: Main Forum » A new player's perspective... I want to find ruins like in the videos. » 2019-02-20 23:54:31
Ok, today I learned about the ghost fires and now I feel at ease.
I'm a little late to this post but the abandoned towns are definitely out there. It's definitely a side hobby of mine in this game but like stated, should only be done in certain circumstances.
I have an old topic on finding ruins that maybe I should update..
#641 Re: News » Update: Temperature Overhaul » 2019-02-20 22:15:19
And in terms of my vision for the game, or why players would use buildings or clothing---this isn't Minecraft Creative Mode, folks. I'm not trying to make a game where you build stuff "just for fun" or "because it looks cool." I'm trying to make a game where you build stuff because you have to---because your survival depends on it, and because it's optimal. The walls in this game have always had R-values. There has always been a thermal propagation model (it was one of the first things that I coded on the server, four years ago). Walls were supposed to be functional. That's why you'd want to build them.
You can still build efficiently for your survival and have a little zazz in there Every creation does bear a creator's mark in some way.
I would like to know why you think we weren't building enough before though?
I used to make them all the time
I can even find examples on the fourm where people built massive temples on desert, where they never should have been, and were dubbed noob cookers.
Most players learn small and do tend to build horribly at first. I think your common player would be able to build a tiny house if needed, but with greater builds like sheep pens or a mosquito trap they're not going to know how to tackle the job.
#642 Re: Main Forum » Tips for Eve camp » 2019-02-19 21:57:45
My tips for eveing right now is to find a massive green biome that meets a massive blue biome. Then make a kiln at the meeting of the biomes as the first thing and gather any rope you can next to it. Have kids on the outside of the green biome where there could also be bonus foods like bananas and cactus fruit. Show your kids your spot and say "base here" and run back to biome edge to feed and raise kids. When kids get hair bring them to kiln and they can help and all the food close to your start isn't taken.
#643 Re: Main Forum » This week's update is the worst » 2019-02-19 18:05:53
i know it might be difficult but read all words, i said i expect to win. And bookate whatever your name, i am not bothering you on this forum you CHOOSE to read and unlike jason i certainly am not charging you to read what i write.
You can expect for the sun to not rise tomorrow too. Doesn't mean it wont come up because of your expectations.
If you aren't going into a legal battle with your only thought being winning, then you have already lost.
#644 Re: Main Forum » i'm not the only one that thinks new update ain't that bad - youtube » 2019-02-19 17:55:05
I have no clue what you people are smoking, but I want some.
Too much of grim's super weeds..
I honestly don't always watch through all of your OHOL vids but I will usually catch at least the beginning of them to hear your opinion on certain things. I do usually watch the other games you play all the way through though.
Thanks for making content regardless.
#645 Re: Main Forum » This week's update is the worst » 2019-02-19 17:35:06
when i sue it won't be so much about winning as it will showing the dev the importance of customer service. If i go to a store and buy a box that says toaster and when i get it home it is an iron, that is false advertising. Same goes for this game.
For me suing will cost exactly 7 dollars. That will be on serving summons on jason through certified mail. The rest will only take a little of my time and by little i mean about 3 horrid lives of time on OHOL.
People and companies seem to think they can do what they want on the internet, that laws do not apply. But let me guarantee you they do. I expect to win my case.
You just sunk yourself.
You sue to win amigo, not "show importance"
#646 Re: Main Forum » This week's update is the worst » 2019-02-19 17:26:00
Grim_Arbiter wrote:Ok not defending Jason at all but do you understand what OPEN SOURCE means?
Um, do you understand what open source means? That anyone can take the code and make their own similar game, is irrelevant to the people who buy Jason's game. Linux server code is open source, if I buy server services from someone and they fuck it all up it doesn't mean I can't sue because I could set up my own servers, no shit. If I wanted to make my own ohol, then why did I buy Jason's in the first place? By paying Jason, you are not buying the code (only), you are buying into the community offered by the servers. Changing the game completely day over day with no heads up at all is quite unreasonable, and saying that the game is open source, just make your own, or just set up your own server, is not a reply to that. All you are saying indirectly without realizing it is ask for a refund, you shouldn't have bought this game, because those alternatives *are* free. I don't want to play on my own in a local server, I want to play where people can join me, where I can find other villages etc. That is what I bought when I bought ohol.
So the issue here is that the dev made a very radical change, which makes previous gameplay useless, the game becomes the opposite of what it advertises itself to be, and what previous experience suggested. I am not a lawyer, so I have no idea how this would work out in practice, but the grounds seem thin. Not because of the game being open source, but because well, devs can update their games and change the code how they want, and you can't really sue over a game sucking pretty hard. This issue was also raised with F76, of broken promises and clear issues, and it was specified that people can't sue over the actual game being bad and buggy, but they can sue over the physical nylon bag being advertised as canvas.
You say its irrelevant yet Dual Decade did that for the mobile version and then you got Two Hours One Life. Both of those exist and have players without jason and can do whatever they please with the source code. Even greep could make a completely different game and add or delete whatever he pleases on his One City Server if he wanted. Yes you just stated it again for me but, YOU ARE ONLY BUYING SERVER ACCESS! The whole game itself can be downloaded free on github!
So tell me. Are the servers working? If you were suing because you literally couldn't access the servers (like when russian ISPs couldn't access) then you might have more of a legal foundation to take action. Just because you don't like what is on a server doesn't mean you can't access it.
False advertising claims are usually based in personal feelings, but guess what? The laws really don't care about your feelings. Unless its something like premeditated vs crime of passion, where they just need to figure out how to categorize you.
#647 Re: Main Forum » This week's update is the worst » 2019-02-19 04:21:29
Rage wrote:Hey buddy... I asked for a refund on this game not long after i purchased it. Emailed you directly and was ignored. I PAID FOR A GAME not an ordeal, and you are advertising this and offering it on steam.
This is false advertising. I want my money back or i will sue and if you do not believe me you should check case D-504-CV-2016-00293 in new mexico where i am suing innogames for 12 million dollars.
This is BULLSHIT. You cater to yours and your good buddies desires while SELLING this as a civilization and baby rearing game. IT IS NOT, it is an eating constantly and having stress game.
I WANT MY DAMN MONEY BACK
btw i use to be a very active game blogger, maybe i will start blogging about this game now
or i will just do that, screw this rip off 'game' i want a damn refund and have been asking for one for since i bought it.
Ok not defending Jason at all but do you understand what OPEN SOURCE means? You would be suing for server acess not a game. You can literally take all the assests in this game for yourself and make a new game and charge for it.. It sounds like you have a gripe with steam more than jason and should take it up with them. They will refund any game regardless so it sounds like you went over your two hour return window and are now mad at them.
#648 Re: Main Forum » Possible clothing update? Leave suggestions » 2019-02-19 03:06:22
Grim_Arbiter wrote:Alright i just came up with a good one that could help early.
Beaver pelts.
If there were added beavers to ponds and had them at a 50-50 spawn share with geese you could help alot.
Have the beaver pelt give you a hat for one and a coat for three.
Hat is on par with wolf hat, and coat on par with rabbit coat.
Beavers dont respawn
did you know that one of the few reasons the French settled into the Americas was to pooch the beavers that lived their! it was all the fashion in Europe at the time!
Yessir!
How bout that the nutrient diffecent trappers would eat the beaver tail cause it was their only protein, even though it has to be one of nastiest meats ever.
*Edit actually it was for the fat content in the tail not the protein. A beaver tail is like one big piece of steak fat
#649 Re: Main Forum » Possible clothing update? Leave suggestions » 2019-02-19 02:53:01
Alright i just came up with a good one that could help early.
Beaver pelts.
If there were added beavers to ponds and had them at a 50-50 spawn share with geese you could help alot.
Have the beaver pelt give you a hat for one and a coat for three.
Hat is on par with wolf hat, and coat on par with rabbit coat.
Beavers dont respawn
#650 Re: Main Forum » This week's update is the worst » 2019-02-18 04:04:11
Rage wrote:Thanks for being civil about it this time. I will try as well. Sorry I am just really upset i lost an eve camp this morning surrounded by food because of the shock thing. I was probably taking a lot of that out on you. Again, sorry.
If that's directed at me, i was never upset, but i do generally appreciate your caring about how I feel.
IMO Eve camps should be really difficult.
Honestly, I didn't play from the end of June-January, I got into my busiest season and also kept getting into different games and not coming back.
I always hated the desert meta. I always set up my camps in green lands, and only stopped cause all my babies would suicide because they were "noob traps".
So people are saying things like "rabbit hunter needs to be a job", it always should have been a job, it used to be a job, finding clothes was one of the first things you did, along with getting agriculture set up.
Eating berries in warm climates and mutton pies as a byproduct of compost made everyone complacent.
I've ran off to create so many camps that didn't survive in my time, it's the nature of the game. Life is sad. Even with good players Eve camps shouldn't have more than a 75% survival rate, if that. Granted, with civilization established, not a lot of people should be spawning as Eves.
and seriously, I can't say this enough times, but the cause of the useless berry eaters is that civilization is supporting them fine. They may be noobs, but they're never going to truly enjoy the game or learn to be better if they use it as a primitive chatroom where they stand around eating berries.
I just feel like he could have done this with keeping jungles the same temp and doing everything else that he did. There is no last bastion for a casual or newer player to learn. All the people on the not so good side of the scale die before they can even type out "I'm new"
I wouldn't reccomend this game how it is right now like i have to people I know personally in the past.