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yeah,
why i hate to be female in OHOL, it's a curse, DT is probably better

& being an Eve ? only noobs & discord players want to be Eve
i don't, there is NOTHING positive about being an Eve
so far ALL of the families i founded are dead & forgotten, & as the game plays, every consequent will as well, it's punishment for playing, not reward for putting up with it

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why test on your kids ? why not testify for yourself about backpacks ?

i cannot say anything with certainty involving any other player in game, since it's random, so the question if a kid does well or better or not or griefs with or without backpack is same random

what i know from my runs for sure, life with a backpack is more productive
in those lives where i was left without a backpack i was not able to be productive, what wonder ? if i have to run to & fro between a food source & workplace, that's waste of productivity 101
add to that no clothes & you are doomed as kid
in such cases, no backpack, no clothes, i went to get a basket, ball of yarn, needle, snare & something to eat, to go then to hunt rabbits & make my own backpack
usually such a life was about getting rabbits for the town, if i was a female, my kids got a loin cloth & a backpack as well, cause that's the most basic - loin cloth & backpack

another thing - old backpacks
it's very vexing if a backpack someone gave to you decays on your back while you are working, cripling your ability to do so

& about other players i gave a backpack, nobody said "no"

so here we are again

griefers & your fear of griefing is dictating even your positive ideas

meantime EVERY f*ing idea is being mixed with fear of griefers

fear of griefers dictates your thoughts

& thus griefing is fun

& yeah
even Jason fears griefers & checks every new idea against options to grief

if people IRL would be that fearful, we would have died out long ago

does the fear prevent griefing ? nope

just accept that griefing will take place no matter what, if you introduce stuff into the game which can be used for good, some player will inevitably test it if it can be exploited as griefing
that cannot be prevented, only improved later on

if you talk about a blessing system, stay on the benefits side, what are the positives you want to gain from ?
can the gain be improved ? where are the difficulties (which don't include other players trying to use it for griefing) ?
fixated on griefing you are stuck in an endless loop, paralized & nothing will change, nothing will improve

@The_Anabaptist

so you just like to talk endlessly about how right you are in your rage against griefing, or what ?
cause after a year of complaints the next one will do the trick ? or the next one, or the next ...

& about Jason's prerogatives
positive gameplay is it not
the last couple of updates have added new clutter piled on all the old clutter
more clutter doesn't make positive gameplay
& more complicated new crafting doesn't add positive gameplay

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well, you were so far not bothered at all with the zoom mods
those help a lot to find people to be killed, don't they ?
& then the great awbz, which tells the griefer if there is still a girl around to be killed

& then in general

>>> griefing is FUN <<<

while playing constructively is not
but you still just shut up the thinking & try to press through the griefers
it's a lost cause
violence will always win, if violence is allowed while constructivity is just exploited

you are morrons trying to play a peaceful game while everybody else is having fun with destruction

yeah, i go now playing something else
till there is an update that addresses the glaring issues
& not another fancy complicated clutter filled update for all the streamers, influencers & update hoppers
GL with your endevours

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i say it again

griefing is not the problem

the problem is
this game doesn't reward being constructive

who counts how many berry bushes you planted or how many kilns you made or how many wolves you killed or how many kids you raised ?

nobody !
you get at best a TY in game & that's it

being constructive is unrewarding in OHOL

you don't get any merit for your contributions, you don't own anything you made, an Eve has no saying, you get killed by your own kids
the game doesn't punish destructivity & doesn't reward constructivity
it's demoralizing
no wonder players grief
they get invited to do so with this

since a year players have spoken against griefing
but they talk against the wind
the wind is blowing in the direction of no reward for what you contribute
griefers just take by force & violence what nobody gets
they at least get negative merit, they even get rewarded by a curse system, Donkey Town & /die

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i wrote already several times that there is no option for possession in game
nobody has anything, nobody can have anything other than in hand, pocket or backpack
#33

also the last suggestion i made about possessions is here
property per object

but probably nobody reads it & nobody is interested

you still cannot have loans without possession
currency is useless if there is no trade
trade cannot happen if people don't own anything, if people can't have anything

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@futurebird

you go girl !

i would have long started griefing if it was only remotely fun for me personally
it isn't
i am a creative person, i like to create, i like structure, not destruction

all i ever said about griefing in OHOL is
that it is more fun to grief in OHOL than it is to be constructive
constructivity in OHOL ends up inevitably in frustration
because the game lacks any !!! appreciation for being constructive

even if i admire Jason for taking up on that task to make & manage a multiplayer game alone
i still see the glaring flaws in that game

costructivity is fucked in OHOL
destruction rules
that's why griefers thrive best
constructive people are the idiots in OHOL

i support griefing in OHOL not because i think that order needs chaos
but to bring the game down, to where it belongs
to the realisation that there has to be order in the first place to allow some chaos afterwards, to not get stuck & stale
but OHOL has no order
only chaos rules, griefers rule

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not only requires it that there is someone in the area but also
that someone has to actually HAVE something
& you must be also able to HAVE something

in OHOL there is no regular option for having something
people have still utilised those few unintented options to actually have something like
one can have one thing temporarily in hand
with an apron or shorts, one thing can be in permanent possession
if in new basket 3 things, in old 2 until one sets down the basket, so temporarily again
in a new backpack 4 things, in old 2 in actual permanent possession

THAT's why new backpacks are so sought-after in game
because they allow to have actually something, to own it actually, to have an own private possesion without any necessity of a lock & key
& without needing to wait till a fence it approved
& with a backpack one is not bound to an area but can move about freely

the fences are ok for family or group property but completely useless for personal possession

if we had more space for stuff to keep, then maybe we could barter
4 spaces is tiny, often not even enough to be able to keep all necessary tools to do only one work,
let alone to keep enough stuff to trade with someone

that disability to own anything is what makes actual communist society, where everything is owned by anybody
& you work your butt off for the good of the community
& leaches try to skew that communist commune but they still are not even able to own anything really, not more than those few objects they can keep in their backpack

so why invent some strange limiting in game mechanics which are not reality orientated ?
why not try to simulate how RL is working ? how possession IRL is working ?

already those fences
i was pro property, that's right, without property no trade
but the cumbersome way to the property is causing more clutter than actual property
& is probably better suited to mark stuff than to own an area,
but also, no trade without possession but more cumbersome garbled options won't do the trick with trade

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it wouldn't get scattered if you've built a workshop, at least marked with wooden floor
same as bakeries, nurseries, farms work more organized if marked where they are
& get dispersed if they aren't

atm the game is taken over by chaos
stuff is just somewhere
why bother with complex crafting if there is not only no flow to the economy of a settlement but every town looks like just a pile of garbage

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or Jason could add finally an option for getting kids in any case of infertility

i think, he thinks about that atm
but nevertheless, the main problem is the generally too small number of players
if you spread 100 people present among all the towns & settlements, some still just don't get any kids, even if there was an infertility kids option

we need more players in game

also, we need better care for noobs, so they don't die as often

& i also think, the /die usage has skyrocketed in the past few monts,
i have as average 2/3 who suicide that way, even if the town is good, people are good & equipped with good supply

the other thing

i agree
work should be rewarded

how about combining a blessing system with general fertility & female kids on top ?

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i played by now about 1000 hours, i encountered lots of stuff

yeah, i see police or guards now & then
it's not that seldom
i usually go hunt boars with bow & arrow
but afaik, if someone is running with bow & arrow middle in town, it ends badly in 90% of cases, either on purpose or by accident

but i am not at all against police or guards
it's just a little boring job, same as being nurse/doctor
but guarding means having a weapon, which means you're potentially deadly

maybe we should put both jobs together
guard & nurse ?
means knife in apron, pie & arrow in backpack, bow in hand
plus needle & thread, pads in a bowl, all placed near a center of town, so that everybody finds it quick if needed

i think atm jobs start to form in OHOL
& that's a good thing
it's a sign of actual civilization

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there are no telephones & there are no earpieces in OHOL
so we don't need that job

but you can set up a hospital & become a nurse
& if it pleases you, you can tell everybody that you are actually a telephone earpiece sanitizer !

so we need the job of nurses or doctors maybe ...

about jobs
my one year old profession suggestion
https://www.reddit.com/r/OneLifeSuggest … _griefing/
i should maybe update it

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