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#1 2020-12-30 20:41:51

Berry High Priest
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Registered: 2020-12-09
Posts: 30

Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

Dear Jason,
I read your message and that you only want to hear problems and less solutions.
Yet, i am going to ignore this for a second and talk about the problem and some possible solutions.
I also know you are in a difficult spot now, but if you want to keep your sales boost this might need some polishing.

So bears, since knife and sword griefing got nerfed because people abused it, people now lure a single or multiple bears in to town to grief it.
I saw multiple towns go extinct because of this and only a few times a smart fertile female runs away.
Now since you care a lot of about making the game grief proof (proven by the time you invested in knife mechanics) I want to give you a few solutions to "improve bear mechanics".
There is already a mechanic that if the bear eats dropped mutton it gets fed (for litterally a microsecond). Now what if as soon as a bear eats someone or a piece of mutton it gets fed for a minute or 5 when it can't attack anyone.
Or maybe just like in real life make bears be replelled by a large population density.
Maybe a bear should be able to attack someone on a horse (would be more unpopular because its used a lot to kill bears).

But please PLEASE for the love of god take this in to consideration while you have time to code again.
I think this is a great and wonderfull game and I am filled with joy whenever there is a player boom but i see it time and time again that experienced griefers drive people away by ruining their playtime by luring bears in to towns and disabeling them.
This either kills the new player or puts him in to an uncomfortable position where he has too few experience to help the town get back up.

Anyway to conclude my little rant,
I hope the best future for you, this game and its playerbase.

*sloppy kiss*


Kind regards,
Your friendly gooseberry gentleman neighbor.

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#2 2020-12-30 21:33:01

fug
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Registered: 2019-08-21
Posts: 1,130

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

I think the solution is to just return bears to being nonhostile when fed mutton again (he changed it at some point for them to fuck off for 30 seconds before being hostile after fed again.)

Just change the feed transition to be from hand instead of on the ground as this requires you to lure bears onto mutton to eat which is just weird. Once fed bears go from follow movements to random which means the bear will go randomly until the mutton wears off. Previously at this point the bear just went dormant until someone ran through it or shot it. CChange this last sstage to a new transition deemed sleeping grizzly bear as a grizzly bear staring into the void is weird, and just draw the bear sleeping on the ground. Only let an arrow wake it while it sleeps and boom. You can just feed the bears mutton to get them to fuck off (like the transition was originally used for) instead of as a means to distract it for 30 seconds until it came back to attack again (Why was this even done??)

If you're feeling frisky let any meat types (rabbit, mutton, pork) be fed to the bear and now someone with a backpack can quickly dispatch 4 bears at a time while someone else gets ready to cage their sleepy asses.


Worlds oldest SID baby.

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#3 2020-12-31 01:28:22

SirCaio
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Registered: 2018-04-01
Posts: 119

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

That's it, Jason! We need the GUN!

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#4 2020-12-31 09:09:15

Berry High Priest
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Registered: 2020-12-09
Posts: 30

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

SirCaio wrote:

That's it, Jason! We need the GUN!

We got sulfur coal and saltpeter. We can make gunpowder


Kind regards,
Your friendly gooseberry gentleman neighbor.

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#5 2020-12-31 09:18:02

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
Posts: 4,563

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

Bombs would be easier than guns.

Explode the bears.

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#6 2020-12-31 20:04:18

Arcurus
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Registered: 2020-04-23
Posts: 1,005

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

we need a death star!

here the response from Jason:

https://github.com/jasonrohrer/OneLife/issues/715

Arcurus:
Bear grieving with horses is far to easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmEeoblLz0

Possible solution:
Make the bear return after 1 minute to his origin.
Make people on horses vulnerable to bears / boars.


jasonrohrer commented 14 days ago
Seems like there are a bunch of ways to solve this problem already.

Where's the town fence/gate?

This guy was not from the victim village.

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#7 2020-12-31 20:44:53

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
Posts: 4,563

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

Classic Jason response - maybe use property fences? LOL

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#8 2020-12-31 21:02:53

Arcurus
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Registered: 2020-04-23
Posts: 1,005

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

DestinyCall wrote:

Classic Jason response - maybe use property fences? LOL

yea a classic smile

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#9 2020-12-31 22:36:49

fug
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Registered: 2019-08-21
Posts: 1,130

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

DestinyCall wrote:

Classic Jason response - maybe use property fences? LOL

>You use a normal gate
You are constantly needing to grant access else no one can go outside. Very easy to have someone block you in with gates because the set up time is 2 minutes (to get approved) + 5 minutes until lasts for two hours. :^) but it takes ten minutes to remove them AND it requires an older person who understands the process. Not to mention the person on the other side can just pull off the paper.

>You use an ally gate
Anyone who wants to come in can just grant themselves access. You are still vulnerable to gate griefing as if the gate is close enough for vanilla users (L O L) your walls are small and likely just constricting the town. :^) the defense for this is to get your leader to exile. Good luck with that when leadership can be dropped on someone 3k away from the village.


Fencing your town has ALWAYS been a death trap. You could floor a bunch of tiles outside your gate but then they just build gates all in front of your village.


Worlds oldest SID baby.

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#10 2021-01-02 13:41:52

NoTruePunk
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Registered: 2019-01-25
Posts: 321

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

Population density repelling bears is probably the best solution tbh

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#11 2021-01-02 15:41:36

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
Posts: 4,563

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

Tameable bears is even better.

I want to ride a grizzly.

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#12 2021-01-02 19:03:04

-Ian-
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Registered: 2020-04-25
Posts: 19

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

DestinyCall wrote:

Tameable bears is even better.

I want to ride a grizzly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/onehouronelife … ame=iossmf you might like this then

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#13 2021-01-02 19:06:25

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
Posts: 4,563

Re: Dear Jason, we need to talk about bear griefing.

-Ian- wrote:
DestinyCall wrote:

Tameable bears is even better.

I want to ride a grizzly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/onehouronelife … ame=iossmf you might like this then

I can see no way that this could go wrong.  :-)

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