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#1 2024-03-14 20:12:50

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Long Time No Play

Hello again.

It's been a long time.

I quit many years ago and haven't played since. The toxicity, lack of progress towards the promised land of metro rails, laser guns, and robots never arrived.

I've checked in every few months to see only social experimentation updates forcing specific gameplay, then no updates for a long time. I never missed anything. I wanted content and lots of it, that's what the game engine excelled at.

Now I see the game might be making a comeback with another world. I commend the idea to pay people for contributions. Seems crazy and not necessary, but generous.

Why not give everyone their own world in the new game instead of letting one toxic group control the game for everyone? Build a global tech chain everyone can pull from and contribute to.

If you purchase OHOL and launch yourself in a rocket, you land in your new world and own the new game for free. If you start in the new game, it can have a default tech path to unlock rockets to visit other worlds owned by other players.

You can probably have a meaningless (or meaningful) benefit to launching from OHOL to the new game. Like a special badge or the ability to live forever in the new game if you don't starve or get killed since you've ascended. This would give buyers of the new game a reason to also buy OHOL.

The whole concept of a few people owning the game is just crazy. It feels like another social experiment that's destined to fail. You are just going to amplify the toxicity as every new player wants to be the leader but realizes they never will because 5 people created 100 fake accounts each and basically own the game. If anything, the current OHOL server should be this but leave it out of the new game for toxicity sake.

You want to keep your game as is for sentimental value, why not give every player that ability?

Just imagine, someone buys the new game and builds their own world using only their art and engine rules. All they have to do is upload and selecting things from the tech chain.

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#2 2024-03-15 00:30:31

Laggy
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Registered: 2021-01-26
Posts: 251

Re: Long Time No Play

You just described a custom server...

Pats on back.

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#3 2024-03-15 10:23:24

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Re: Long Time No Play

A custom server that you don't have to run and has your art or the art of the tech tree you select.

Congrats on proving my toxicity point in the first reply.

I guess I'll check back in a few more years and see how many accounts you made to control the new game because nobody came to that server you spent 100 hours setting up and running.

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#4 2024-03-15 12:24:53

selalov734
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Registered: 2021-06-01
Posts: 77

Re: Long Time No Play

Gederian wrote:

I guess I'll check back in a few more years and see how many accounts you made to control the new game because nobody came to that server you spent 100 hours setting up and running.

Its true Laggy has already created a lot of accounts, i am one of them, Spoonwood is another, we are all the same person.

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#5 2024-03-15 20:37:48

Gederian
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Re: Long Time No Play

I know, I played throughout the first year of the games release. I ran private servers. I made several accounts to get around the inability to just build a city of my liking. I helped build the first car, plane, and sacrificed my children to bring on the apocalypses.

Just imagine in the new game, I start in my own world alone. The default tech tree and art style is OHOL. I visit the tech tree website and select a template someone made. This is South Park with Cartman, Eric, and the whole cast instead of eve. The base tech tree of building a rocket is always required, that's how you escape your world. The art however is replaced by the template a friendly player shared. Instead of farming berries, its Memberries, and when you eat them you enter a state of bliss. All materials you use to craft always result in building a South Park like world.

I eventually build a rocket and fly off to other worlds, including OHOL. Every world has it's own personality and rules for hunger, language, etc. If you die in another world, you return back to your world with no rocket or items. Better make two rockets.

This time I'll switch on the Rick and Morty theme, and when I land in other worlds my character will always be Rick. Maybe I will meet someone else from Meme World in GTA world and we'll snap a photo together and leave it for the worlds creator. Nice rocket though, I think I'll take that back to my world, thanks for this "Gas" or whatever you call it.

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#6 2024-03-15 20:51:21

ShadyDeRats
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Re: Long Time No Play

so you were like me but without homeboys and you were better


5,350 days alive!!!!

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#7 2024-03-15 22:33:03

TheSamWish
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Registered: 2019-04-30
Posts: 65

Re: Long Time No Play

The amount of hosting power it would take for Jason to give everyone their own private server would be insane.
I enjoy the community aspect of the game. It's basically the whole point. We've seen what it's like for people to work together in the game. It's now time to see how people work together ON the game. I can't wait to see where AHAP goes.


You are Pepsi

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#8 2024-03-15 22:58:44

Gederian
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Posts: 164

Re: Long Time No Play

TheSamWish wrote:

The amount of hosting power it would take for Jason to give everyone their own private server would be insane.
I enjoy the community aspect of the game. It's basically the whole point. We've seen what it's like for people to work together in the game. It's now time to see how people work together ON the game. I can't wait to see where AHAP goes.

That is an interesting way to look at it, and I agree. If the game was truly collaborative where anyone can create and contribute, that would be amazing. I don't see how it's going to be possible (especially long term) to keep the game from being taken over by a few people with a few hundred bucks and nothing better to do. Never underestimate gamers.

I also agree the community aspect still needs to be strong. Making the game more broadly appealing will help with that. Something like only worlds with online players are visitable and giving reasons to visit others. If you could keep 1,000 people online, just the travelers to OHOL would probably reach new peaks. The fact that it's the original will mean lots of people will congregate and build there. Everyone can eat their cake how they want.

I don't think CPU would be an issue. It could actually cost less if built as a cluster of servers, all of them serving all clients and worlds. At one point 10 servers and 4 large ones were used. I bet 4 servers, two just as redundancy, could run 1,000 people playing their own world at the same time. Not saying it would be easy to build, but it could be done.

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#9 2024-03-15 23:05:55

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Re: Long Time No Play

ShadyDeRats wrote:

so you were like me but without homeboys and you were better


Haha, I guess we are all alike in some way.

Some of the people I played with are still playing. Not sure if I would call them homeboys, but we were the ones building all the early cities and then apocopating them to prove the point that resets are annoying. They got nerfed pretty quick.

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#10 2024-03-15 23:23:39

Marquis
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Registered: 2022-06-16
Posts: 66

Re: Long Time No Play

Gederian wrote:

…to keep the game from being taken over by a few people…

I thought it was going to be democratic? I don’t know how we’ll keep the voting legitimate, but the idea is voting.

Reference:

Jason wrote:
A new Content Leader is always just a vote away…

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#11 2024-03-16 00:30:10

Laggy
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Registered: 2021-01-26
Posts: 251

Re: Long Time No Play

I mean a custom server could have anything you want in it.... It's not just hosting og OHOL...

I am just being logical, you're being the toxic one Gederian. BTW.

Bye for another couple years.

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#12 2024-03-16 05:39:01

ShadyDeRats
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Re: Long Time No Play

Laggy be like: You don't agree with me? YoU'Re TOOXICC


5,350 days alive!!!!

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#13 2024-03-16 09:17:21

Laggy
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Registered: 2021-01-26
Posts: 251

Re: Long Time No Play

ShadyDeRats wrote:

Laggy be like: You don't agree with me? YoU'Re TOOXICC

At least I didn't write a thesis on how OHOL is toxic and Jason should hug us all...

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#14 2024-03-16 17:54:38

ShadyDeRats
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Re: Long Time No Play

That's because I'm not content with sitting down like an obedient little chess piece


5,350 days alive!!!!

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#15 2024-03-20 01:37:34

QuirkySmirkyIan
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From: New Jersey, United States
Registered: 2018-07-06
Posts: 314

Re: Long Time No Play

selalov734 wrote:

Its true Laggy has already created a lot of accounts, i am one of them, Spoonwood is another, we are all the same person.

Seriously? That is true?


Open gate now. Need truck to be more efficient!

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