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#1 2018-05-19 16:25:26

Shaun
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Dying of old age is too difficult

I've died of hunger at 58 or 59 so many times, the chime stops playing and your hunger seems to drain even faster than usual. Really frustrating when you're surrounded with food and you die before you can put any of it in your mouth

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#2 2018-05-19 16:34:45

breezeknight
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

yep

no idea if it's a bug or intended

you could post a bug report here https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewforum.php?id=3

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#3 2018-05-19 16:55:06

Aname
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

never had problems with that i dont even play with sound on lmao.

i cant hear if someone is getting killed or when im hungry.

i just look every second at the hunger bar.


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#4 2018-05-19 17:05:38

Baker
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Pretty sure that it's intended, Maybe you when you get old you become too deaf to hear it. It doesn't drain any faster than normal but it your hunger bar get's smaller when you get old so I guess it does run out quicker in a way.

I mean getting to 58 59 is still good but if your dead set on making to 60 you just gotta pay extra attention to your food bar. Your basically an infant that speak at that age. Grab food and sit in a perfect temp spot and say your goodbyes.


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#5 2018-05-19 17:27:36

jasonrohrer
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

I will look into it.

I know that the "Hungry" warning chime stops playing, because you're pretty much always hungry when old, but I thought that the "Starving" chime still played when old.  If not, it's a bug.

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#6 2018-05-19 20:02:27

YAHG
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

jasonrohrer wrote:

I will look into it.

I know that the "Hungry" warning chime stops playing, because you're pretty much always hungry when old, but I thought that the "Starving" chime still played when old.  If not, it's a bug.

                    else if( ourLiveObject->foodStore <= 3 &&
                             computeCurrentAge( ourLiveObject ) < 57 ) {
                        
                        // don't play hunger sounds at end of life
                        // because it interrupts our end-of-life song
                        // currently it's 2:37 long

https://github.com/jasonrohrer/OneLife/ … fePage.cpp


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#7 2018-05-20 20:19:29

Morti
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

I'd rather have the piano and get the occasional unexpected death at 58 or 59.

The music is a like a reward every five minutes; each, a time for me to reflect on what I've been doing with my life.

I'd rather not have that annoying warning ruining it, especially when I often only take the time to chat with my children and grand children in that last minute. It's the theme song to those final words. Please don't take it away.

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#8 2018-05-20 20:22:54

Izzytok
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Registered: 2018-05-07
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Morti wrote:

I'd rather have the piano and get the occasional unexpected death at 58 or 59.

The music is a like a reward every five minutes; each, a time for me to reflect on what I've been doing with my life.

I'd rather not have that annoying warning ruining it, especially when I often only take the time to chat with my children and grand children in that last minute. It's the theme song to those final words. Please don't take it away.

Agreed. It's a peacefull ending to a long life. It also kinda makes sense, since you lose interest in food as you get really old. You just have to take care of yourself.

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#9 2018-05-20 20:25:04

Angel Carrillo
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Yeah. Old people in real life do get less hungry.
Basically, in game, stay in a perfect/ good temp spot and say your last words.

(or some funny ones )

Last edited by Angel Carrillo (2018-05-21 23:49:17)

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#10 2018-05-20 20:33:21

Morti
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Shaun, find a nice warm spot near where the children are being kept, to spend your last few minutes.

You get 55-60 character messages in the last 5 minutes of life; put them to good use.

Tell your story. Tell your children you're proud of them. Tell your grandchildren how happy you are to see them in your home.

Let your family know where important things are and put your affairs in order.


I generally only do this with the last 30 seconds or so, as there is always somewhere you can be useful up to the bitter end, but it's a perfect time to bond with your little children waiting to get their hands on the world and to pass on valuable information to them. Let them know about the sheep pen you've been working on, the house you tried to finish. That really sweet grassland you found when you thought you were lost, you know, the one with all the untouched soil in it? One of them could find that really useful when he's able to pull a cart load of baskets.

Your final words could save your home, long after you're gone. Share them with your family, in the warm place.

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#11 2018-05-20 21:10:01

Realcooldude
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Registered: 2018-05-20
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Aname wrote:

never had problems with that i dont even play with sound on lmao.

i cant hear if someone is getting killed or when im hungry.

i just look every second at the hunger bar.

Same here

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#12 2018-05-21 03:53:20

IronBear
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Registered: 2018-03-26
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Shaun wrote:

I've died of hunger at 58 or 59 so many times, the chime stops playing and your hunger seems to drain even faster than usual. Really frustrating when you're surrounded with food and you die before you can put any of it in your mouth

If you want to make it to 60 you have to use your baby survival skills. Find the perfect temp and have food.  And above all stop working.  If you work in you last 3 minutes you won't make it.

I typically spend my last 5 to 10 minutes helping on the farm. And then I give away my stuff and say my final words. About the only time I die at this stage is if I focused on working. 

Also I am pretty sure the hunger chime turns off in old age.  That can catch you off guard if you are not use to being an elder.

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#13 2018-05-21 05:26:43

Lepisma
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

I think part of the issue is that if your hunger bar decreases from age when you only have 2 bars, it basically erases that last full box PLUS the one before it as you get hungrier at the same time, so even if you have two full bars you are suddenly dropped to zero it and causes you to die without the warning chime working correctly.

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#14 2018-05-21 10:51:47

breezeknight
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

i like the music & the sounds very much, it's just in the current constellation problematic in itself

the problems occur with the silence before & during the last soothing music
so if someone playes without sound, then it's easier, because otherwise the sounds are distracting & one relies on sound as an information source

i die then at 57 because that's the time, where the long silence occurs before the death music starts
the death at 58 & 59 occurs when one managed to eat before, so doesn't die at 57 but since the food depletes fast then, the music has started & is very melancholic & soothing, lulling the player into false calm - dead tongue



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#15 2018-05-21 13:50:10

Roolstar
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

And sometimes, consider suicide at around 55 or 56, especially when in a relatively poor colony, you're consuming much more than you're contributing after that.


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Only to eventually discover He did not create the world he always wanted, but the world he was forced to create.

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#16 2018-05-21 15:26:47

breezeknight
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

@Roolstar
or you could move to the next berry bush & eat those few berries until you go peacefully with 60 wink

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#17 2018-05-21 19:30:31

jasonrohrer
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Yeah, as you have figured out, this is intentional.

I used to have the chime come in during old age, but it happens so frequently, because you're constantly hungry, that it ruins the end-of-life song.

Had to look in the change log to remind myself of why:

------
  Fixed so that music doesn't drop out for sake of hunger sounds at very end
  of old age life.  There are no audible hunger sounds to interrupt the music
  at that point.

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#18 2018-05-21 20:21:19

Morti
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Roolstar wrote:

And sometimes, consider suicide at around 55 or 56, especially when in a relatively poor colony, you're consuming much more than you're contributing after that.

This is wrong. There is no reason to suicide, if you find a warm place to stand around. One berry gives you five pips, at balanced temp that's over 100 seconds; one minute and 40 seconds. At 55 you have the 4 base bars plus 5 others. You eat one berry, carrot or piece of pie at that age and those 9 pips will last you 3 mins (9x20=180, 180/60=3) then you eat one more berry at 59 or 58 when you are down to one pip and you have 5 or 6 left, which is more than enough to get you through the next 120 or 60 seconds.

If you think your family is so desperate for food that you have to prematurely die on them than you are probably not paying attention to your temp meter often enough and are probably the reason for that. You're probably standing in deserts in fur, or standing on a cold tile after you've given all your clothes away.

It's no wonder so many of your towns struggle with food, when you and the people your bad habits spread to, are in them.

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#19 2018-05-22 10:13:56

breezeknight
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

@jasonrohrer

jasonrohrer wrote:

Yeah, as you have figured out, this is intentional.

I used to have the chime come in during old age, but it happens so frequently, because you're constantly hungry, that it ruins the end-of-life song.

Had to look in the change log to remind myself of why:

------
  Fixed so that music doesn't drop out for sake of hunger sounds at very end
  of old age life.  There are no audible hunger sounds to interrupt the music
  at that point.

maybe you could allow a warning sound at low hunger/food bar between 56 & 57, that's the most critical death, where the last music still didn't began, so it wouldn't disturb it, but it would give the player a needed reminder

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Last edited by breezeknight (2018-05-22 10:14:26)

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#20 2018-05-22 10:14:45

Aname
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

just look at youre hunger bar every minute.

u Fopdoodle

Last edited by Aname (2018-05-22 10:27:00)


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#21 2018-05-22 10:19:16

Trick
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

No need to use that word.

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#22 2018-05-22 10:20:47

Aname
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Trick wrote:

No need to use that word.

what if i told u im gay can i use it then


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#23 2018-05-22 10:22:40

Trick
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Aname wrote:
Trick wrote:

No need to use that word.

what if i told u im gay can i use it then

No.

It's an inappropriate and offensive word.  Expand your vernacular and find other things to say.

Besides, there was no need for name calling to begin with.

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#24 2018-05-22 10:27:50

Aname
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Trick u a cumberworld

Last edited by Aname (2018-05-22 10:28:06)


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#25 2018-05-22 10:31:52

Trick
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Re: Dying of old age is too difficult

Aname wrote:

Trick u a cumberworld

Yay!

We've learned a new word!  That can be our achievement for the day smile

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