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Acozi wrote:I thought you were quitting Sc0rp
I'm almost not playing. Yesterday it was 1 minute game. I got born to griefer. She fed me twice. Then pulled a knife and stabbed somebody else. Then let me die. I got insta-banned from West city for 3 hours for choosing my parents poorly. I wanted to see pein's new pen, but that was not possible. I stopped playing, because with hiigh probability, I'd have the same griefer in next game.
The day before, one longer game. Rescued West city during famine and griefer visit (non-violent one - just messing with food production), became a king for generation, passed down crown and knife well - they lasted at least 10 more gens. Also stopped playing, because - griefer.
Not that I want less players for this great game, but you seem really jaded about the whole experience. I play maybe 4 or 5 hours a week but have a blast griefers included.
Maybe a break or playing less would do you some good and provide a more enjoyable experience.
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Just born to a town of griefers after being the only girl left someone kept taking babys. I went and played with a danger noodle. Town probably died. Nice place with the murders and baby stealing and no one doing any work but the old and meak.
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I've just stolen somebody's house by just putting a lock in his door. All the hard work gone in 1 second.
#Mastergriefer
Shows them for building a door..
Locked doors are imba as fuck in this game. You can take off someones door/bust it down irl no problem it is just you will probably get caught and arrested..
"be prepared and one person cant kill all city, if he can, then you deserve it" -pein
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Thanks YAHG! That was really helpfull. I will have more questions about town defence later on. For now just only one: where do you get your knife? You make one, because nobody's at the smith or what?
And considering my first post, could you write if there is something I can do as Eve or 2nd gen to defend? That are the things that happend to me in early camps. Obviously not all in one game. Usually 2-3 things from this list are enough to wipe me. Do I miss some obvious defence there? Like wasting some food around, making a bow, luring in a bear, then shooting people in the back.
INB4: I can run and setup camp elsewhere. But that's the same as quitting and starting another Eve run.
It is kinda hard to defend the poorer you are, but at least the poorer you are the less time other people could spend fucking you up.
If you can get a bow/arrow you can hide it behind a maple tree really easily. The sprites overlap and you
wouldn't be able to see it by only looking, you have to mouse it over.
You won't have a knife in an Eve camp unless you have some really helpful kids or an amazing spot..
I don't think people are doing most of the things I thought up most of the time. I think the truth is that most people are
just incompetent below a certain tech level. A lot of people just fail Eve and die over and over, as Eve's kid I have to either
carry them (boy) or just ditch them when they waste my whole life bush-hugging (girl). How many times do you have to poke
at shit to try to teach your mom how to make ropes and firebows and other basic tools?
These are the people that are gonna be milling around the farm watering plants replanting and eating them.
Mostly if people are doing obviously dumb shit and you can catch them, you gotta make the call whether they are malicious or
misguided. I understand that people want to er on the side of giving the guy a break but you gotta ask yourself whether you are
doing that because you want to avoid what you would have to do if they were malicious.
Oh and making a knife in a town isn't usually very hard. The file is usually in with the rest of the tools. If you have to make
knifes yourself (not for murdering en mass) you will want to make at least 4 in your first batch (you will really want 5+ knives
so no one can just horde them all in their pack, people do this all the time..). Prep your short shafts before hand and know where
the file is. People are dumb and have a tendency to freak out when they see even parts of a weapon being assembled. People
will kill you for making weapons.. Ironic I know, but be prepared.
Usually explain to them that the town needs to be armed to defend itself and we are safer with 5 knives than none (because none
becomes 1 obviously and then you have a problem).
After you make your batch of knives you need to pass them out, these people need to have backpacks because the knives do no
one any good hidden behind a tree somewhere.
Common etiquette for giving people weapons is to put them on the ground away from them and then give them space to
go pick it up. If you are giving someone a pack loaded with a knife, drop the whole pack with it inside on the ground.
"be prepared and one person cant kill all city, if he can, then you deserve it" -pein
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I honestly think that if people who want to arm themselves with defense against greifers, there should be an open, well thought-out post with details, that describe what to look out for.
So If I wanted to be sure I was killing, or accusing a greifer, I would have a resource to defend my reasoning.
SO I +1 this thread.
Plus, it also gives the community some actual information as to HOW you can grief, which sucks for the hateful type, but it means that it isn't a secret anymore.
And I personally would encourage people to arm themselves with this knowledge for people whoa re considering buying this game.
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Are you trying to be joirom and prove something here?
I don't know what Joriom tried to prove - I'm not long enough on the forum.
I hold a grudge in both cases.
Sad to hear that. I'm just helping to improve the game.
Maybe changes will get implemented eventually, but not before souring the game for countless people and making this community smaller. Good job.
Things I'm describing are not secret. Griefers abuse them all the time. And I'm sure they share them among themselves. Why other players shoudn't be aware of them, to be able to counter play?
And if some things are so OP that fairly new, unskilled player can wipe out the whole town using them, they need to be fixed ASAP, not shoved under the carpet.
"""
- Mom, I got raped.
- Shut up! Nobody will want to live in our neighbourhood.
- Maybe we should do something to stop the raper?
- No, just shut up! Pretend that nothing happend.
"""
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If the community is so fragile that us talking openly will break it, then it is doomed.
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If the community is so fragile that us talking openly will break it, then it is doomed.
True.
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This IS a unfortunate "Elephant In The Room" case, where an obvious truth is chosen to be ignored, esculatting the problem. Some of the forum members have to suck up the truth, stop stabbing their eyes out when they see the truth (not literally, but the same as putting a blindfold over their eyes, it fits the theme of the problem), get out those pitchforks, and just face the music that we need to figure out this problem. If we can't work together without the majority yelling at us to blindfold ourselves, the community is doomed. YAHG, for once, is finally correct (at least in a straight moral sense, he has been right in other moral senses but some of them are more biased.) Come on, we gotta figure this out together, it's what Jason even said. We've got to solve the problem together, as a playerbase.
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This IS a "Elephant In The Room" case, where an obvious truth is chosen to be ignored, esculatting the problem. Some of the forum members have to suck up the truth, stop stabbing their eyes out when they see the truth (not literally, but the same as putting a blindfold over their eyes, it fits the theme of the problem), get out those pitchforks, and just face the music that we need to figure out this problem. If we can't work together without the majority yelling at us to blindfold ourselves, the community is doomed. YAHG, for once, is finally correct (at least in a straight moral sense, he has been right in other moral senses but some of them are more biased.) Come on, we gotta figure this out together, it's what Jason even said. We've got to solve the problem together, as a playerbase.
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For the record and your own edification:
I am always right, and if you think otherwise you need to change your mind cause you are being dumb.
"be prepared and one person cant kill all city, if he can, then you deserve it" -pein
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