Current idea for cursing/blessing

Kinrany · 2018-07-05 00:06:29

I think movies are a bad example, because asking someone to move is just a bad idea. (Otherwise people would keep asking each other to move forever.) They're not following the "first come, first serve" rule against their personal incentives.

In our context rules are something people agree to follow despite their own incentives. Eating an extra carrot when you're almost full is convenient, but you don't want other people to do it, so you agree to avoid wasting food.

There is no third party to enforce these rules. If there's a rule, it means that someone at some point invented that rule, and then it spread and outcompeted all the other similar and incompatible rules. There are network effects, the most obvious one being the threat of getting stabbed for being in the wrong camp. Early adopters gain less by joining, so it makes sense that, all else being equal, "first come, first serve" rules are more successful.

Telafiesta · 2018-07-05 17:10:48

This is will be abused by players cursing you for taking "their" basket. People who would rather type and argue instead of taking two minuets to make themselves a new basket.

Before I could do what I wanted when I wanted because I spent more hours playing the game and I understood the mechanics better than some noob. With a system like this verbal disputes will have consequences for good players who are honestly just trying to play.

Also what about the speech option in the game so grandama will make a more convincing case for your guilt than you as a seven year old trying to prove their innocent.

The last thing this game needs is five people afk arguing on a carrot plot about who is griefing and who the town should curse.

Here is a video of me I would of been cursed by three people in this life but I wouldn't have deserved it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrQmCPbg8c

TrustyWay · 2018-07-05 17:21:25

Jason, this is important if you read this, we check the logs and there is no hardcore killer except one who killed 50 people on 3 days.

If your kill count is too high, give him horn until somebody takes his place. I beg you.

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YAHG · 2018-07-05 17:21:59

Telafiesta wrote:

This is will be abused by players cursing you for taking "their" basket. People who would rather type and argue instead of taking two minuets to make themselves a new basket.
Before I could do what I wanted when I wanted because I spent more hours playing the game and I understood the mechanics better than some noob. With a system like this verbal disputes will have consequences for good players who are honestly just trying to play.
Also what about the speech option in the game so grandama will make a more convincing case for your guilt than you as a seven year old trying to prove their innocent.
The last thing this game needs is five people afk arguing on a carrot plot about who is griefing and who the town should curse.
Here is a video of me I would of been cursed by three people in this life but I wouldn't have deserved it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrQmCPbg8c

Fuck yeah, fuck this dumb cursing bullshit.

Long live the Cockroach Queen!

Telafiesta · 2018-07-05 20:38:59

I like this YAGH he/she has obviously played quite a bit and is very involved in the forums, a gift to the community.

YAHG · 2018-07-05 20:42:35

Telafiesta wrote:

I like this YAGH he/she has obviously played quite a bit and is very involved in the forums, a gift to the community.

We miss you on discord bby, glad to see your voice got better

YAHG · 2018-07-05 20:47:25

TrustyWay wrote:

Jason, this is important if you read this, we check the logs and there is no hardcore killer except one who killed 50 people on 3 days.
If your kill count is too high, give him horn until somebody takes his place. I beg you.

Horns PLUS no killing slow.

Blood for the blood god obvs.

TrustyWay · 2018-07-05 21:09:47

Yeah, the very mean people like this one specificly should be born with disadvantage.

Just like retarded people.

forestglade · 2018-07-05 21:15:53

If there are like 5 main griefers, like I suspect, I’ve suggested just removing them.

But he wants us to self-police. I support at least trying this out. It takes like 10-20 curses to be marked and it decays each hour of game play. If you piss off 20 players (20% of the server population) in a short period of time... Maybe you need to figure out why no one likes you.

YAHG · 2018-07-05 21:21:45

forestglade wrote:

trying this out.

I think it won't work cause you can't catch the people who fuck up all your shit when you aren't looking.

I guess if you are Eve mom who is cursed you better not ever talk. Or your babies will curse you.

Or maybe they will curse you for not talking, or for abandoning them.

forestglade · 2018-07-05 21:25:56

Babies can’t curse. Speech limitations.

People get one curse per two hour of game play. It’s not much.

When you curse someone you curse yourself as well.

sc0rp · 2018-07-05 22:37:11

jasonrohrer wrote:

kubassa wrote:
Now this idea....... LOL. If this garbage was in the main page video explaining the game i would have held onto my $20.
kubassa, please email me for a refund.

I'm kinda late to this thread, but I just want to nominate this as best answer ever. Now he needs to shut up or ask for refund and be gone from the game. Win-win

sc0rp · 2018-07-05 22:38:53

Anshin wrote:

Ya, but it still wasn't real. There are no witches or witchcraft or voodoo. Curses aren't real, they didn't actually work.

Curses ARE real as long as cursed person knows about being cursed and believes that it works. Placebo effect can and has been measured.

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Adata · 2018-07-05 23:03:42

Cursing and blessing sounds like a neat idea.

Kinrany · 2018-07-05 23:19:27

sc0rp wrote:

Curses ARE real as long as cursed person knows about being cursed and believes that it works. Placebo effect can and has been measured.

AFAIK placebo effect is mostly statistical artifacts and flawed research.

(Shamelessly off topic since the thread is too old anyway.)

sc0rp · 2018-07-06 05:39:15

Kinrany wrote:

sc0rp wrote:
Curses ARE real as long as cursed person knows about being cursed and believes that it works. Placebo effect can and has been measured.
AFAIK placebo effect is mostly statistical artifacts and flawed research.
(Shamelessly off topic since the thread is too old anyway.)

Doesn't seem so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

Pain

Placebos are believed to be capable of altering a person's perception of pain. "A person might reinterpret a sharp pain as uncomfortable tingling."[8]

One way in which the magnitude of placebo analgesia can be measured is by conducting "open/hidden" studies, in which some patients receive an analgesic and are informed that they will be receiving it (open), while others are administered the same drug without their knowledge (hidden). Such studies have found that analgesics are considerably more effective when the patient knows they are receiving them.[23]

Depression
[...]
Another meta-analysis found that 79% of depressed patients receiving placebo remained well (for 12 weeks after an initial 6–8 weeks of successful therapy) compared to 93% of those receiving antidepressants. In the continuation phase however, patients on placebo relapsed significantly more often than patients on antidepressants.[27]

Negative effects
See also: Nocebo
[...]
Withdrawal symptoms can also occur after placebo treatment. This was found, for example, after the discontinuation of the Women's Health Initiative study of hormone replacement therapy for menopause. Women had been on placebo for an average of 5.7 years. Moderate or severe withdrawal symptoms were reported by 4.8% of those on placebo compared to 21.3% of those on hormone replacement.[33]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

Pain:
Verbal suggestion can cause hyperalgesia (increased sensitivity to pain) and allodynia (perception of a tactile stimulus as painful) as a result of the nocebo effect.[17] Nocebo hyperalgesia is believed to involve the activation of cholecystokinin receptors.[18]

Anthropological usage:
Some people maintain that belief kills (e.g., "voodoo death": Cannon (1942) describes a number of instances from a variety of different cultures) and belief heals (e.g., faith healing). A "self-willed" death (due to voodoo hex, evil eye, pointing the bone procedure,[21] etc.) is an extreme form of a culture-specific syndrome or mass psychogenic illness that produces a particular form of psychosomatic or psychophysiological disorder which results in a psychogenic death.
[...]
Writing from his extensive experience of treating cancer (including more than 1,000 melanoma cases) at Sydney Hospital, Milton (1973) warned of the impact of the delivery of a prognosis, and how many of his patients, upon receiving their prognosis, simply turned their face to the wall and died a premature death: "there is a small group of patients in whom the realization of impending death is a blow so terrible that they are quite unable to adjust to it, and they die rapidly before the malignancy seems to have developed enough to cause death. This problem of self-willed death is in some ways analogous to the death produced in primitive peoples by witchcraft ('pointing the bone')" (p. 1435).

Kinrany · 2018-07-06 13:33:21

You're right, it makes sense that placebo effects could work for purely neurological issues. Like raising one's own pain tolerance by ignoring pain until one actually stops noticing it.
Can't check [23] and [27] because they're paywalled. [33] seems to be based on self-reports.

YAHG · 2018-07-06 15:11:16

You can blunt a decent amount of pain with your mind so it stands to reason that placebo would work fine, it would be silly not to utilize it too.

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