shepard/sheep/dirt/compost guide for new players

startafight · 2018-07-07 05:49:43

the cause of this was ppl constantly expanding the goddamn berry farm when we were in gen 6 with NO SHOVEL AND NO SHEEP NO WHEAT OR CARROT FARM AHHHHHHHHHH

this is going to be basic town life tutorial for all the noobs. if u want any in-depth stuff go check out some smart persons tutorial

ok. u need to understand that basic town life and functionality is based on DIRT MANAGEMENT. if theres no dirt or water, you die. you will run out of food and just die!

dont expand the berry farm to the point it needs 5 people constantly maintaining watering and dirting to keep it functional. thats just a waste of resources. you want to be putting most of that berry power into MAKING DIRT

you make dirt by threshing a wheat. threshing a wheat is done by cutting a ripe wheat plant, and then hitting it with a branch, a maple or poplar ones will do. it has to be NOT STRIPPED OF BRANCHES. if you see a branch by the wheat station dont fucking touch it! its the threshing branch!

https://onetech.info/226-Threshed-Wheat

you then take the straw and place it on the ground

next step is to get a bowl and fill it with berries. you pick a berry from a bush and click it onto the bowl. when u cant put any more in its full! then put a carrot in there and use a sharp stone to mash them together

then take that bowl of carrot and berry and click it onto the straw. thats dry compost. get some water and click that onto the dry compost. now its wet!

take a shovel, click onto a sheep poop and click that onto the wet compost. now its composting. this will turn into DIRT

there are other important steps to making dirt, its to get sheep and carrots and wheat going. without that you cant get dirt! without compost you will run out of wild dirt and die!

to get WHEAT you click on a wild wheat to get wheat seeds. you click that on a tilled row and water it. it will grow now! do the same with a carrot! youve planted wheat and carrots!

now itll get a lil complicated. we are going to get SHEEP.

to get sheep you need a rope and a bow. ok?

before you do anything get a bowl of berries and a carrot in it, like we did for composting. hide it behind a tree so nobody takes it and makes a fucking pie out of it.

ull need to make a pen before doing this, u can just dig a hole instead of making an actual fence n stuff. dont use graves cos someones not gonna like it n get rid of it. just use the shovel and dig in this pattern

EDIT: https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewt … 583#p23583 this is a more up to date pattern use this one

https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=729

to dig a hole you need a stake and a round rock. u put the stake on the ground where u want it and CLICK it with the rock. you hit it enough until its called "PIT STAKES"

https://onetech.info/622-Pit-Stakes <- itll look like this

then u take the shovel and click on the stake. you've made a hole now. do it again till uve made a pen

https://www.onehouronelife.com/forums/v … php?id=578 heres another forum post on sheep

now u need to kill a mouflon with a lamb. if ur not too sure about how to shoot its RIGHT CLICK on it. you have to click on a sheep with a baby

https://onetech.info/532-Mouflon-with-Lamb <- itll look like this

then you use the rope and click on the lamb with the rope and drag it back into the pen. then feed the carrot and berry mixture to it n itll grow up. itll become a mouflon but itll have a sheep lamb. u feed that and BOOM. uve got sheep

sheep only shit when they grow up. so u gotta feed a baby to get poop ok?

IF U THINK U CANT DO THIS HERES HOW U CAN HELP:

1. STOP EATING ALL THE CARROTS
2. STOP FILLING ALL THE BOWLS
3. STOP USING UP THE ENTIRE SHOVEL TO BURY THE ENTIRE FAMILY
4. STOP USING ALL THE DIRT ON ONLY BERRIES

if u do those above i (and probably others) WILL take you as a griefer. prevent being killed for not knowing by following the above rules

heres a random example of what a decent/smallish compost section should look like

SO WHAT SHOULD YOU DO IF UR IN A GEN 6 CAMP WITH A MASSIVE BERRY FARM AND NOTHING ELSE???

1. DO NOT EXPAND THE BERRY FARM
2. MAKE THE CARROT/ WHEAT FARM

new? any more questions? i will do literally everything in my power to help you understand what to do next. please, i will make another shitty diagram if you need it

Last edited by startafight (2018-07-14 18:59:16)

startafight · 2018-07-07 05:52:05

also DONT RELY ON BERRIES AS BIGGEST SOURCE OF FOOD. go directly into pies and soup. for my sake if not yours

heres some food recipes:

https://onetech.info/1293-Stack-of-Bean-Burritos

https://onetech.info/1308-Stack-of-Bean-Tacos-just-made

https://onetech.info/1285-Omelette

https://onetech.info/1249-Three-Sister-s-Stew

https://onetech.info/1242-Bowl-of-Sauerkraut

https://onetech.info/1148-Baked-Potato

https://onetech.info/570-Cooked-Mutton

https://onetech.info/518-Cooked-Goose

https://onetech.info/277-Cooked-Rabbit-Carrot-Pie

https://onetech.info/274-Cooked-Rabbit-Pie

edit: also, cousin/nephew/i didnt get to see ur name cos i was busy lagging

i saw u asked me not to kms but honestly, id spent my entire childhood bringing dirt so we wouldnt have a dirt crisis like at my birth, but then that fucking girl came and hoed up every dirt pile!!! to plant more berries!!!!! i couldnt take it anymore!!!!!! i thought i was finally done bringing dirt so i could set up the carrot farm and go get a sheep but no!!! teaching didnt work, threats didnt work, pleading didnt work!!! it was me or the girl cousin, i had to die to preserve the peace of the town.

Last edited by startafight (2018-07-07 06:13:00)

Verte · 2018-07-07 07:35:54

Below the enigmatic title, here you have an effective tutorial.
(I mean enigmatic for people who do not master slang expressions. I had to check out your "kms", for "kilometers" didn't make any sense. We foreigners learn another english!)
I wish new players read this tutorial.
Thank you startafight. I felt the same frustration so many times...

FounderOne · 2018-07-07 09:14:14

Don't cut all wheat otherwise no seeds.
You are walking from the sheep pen to the doc and on the way is a Smith, then look for broken steel tools and take them to the Smith. Or take some mutton to the bakery. Never ever walk with empty hands! Keep the city clean and nice.

startafight · 2018-07-07 18:39:57

Verte wrote:

Below the enigmatic title, here you have an effective tutorial.
(I mean enigmatic for people who do not master slang expressions. I had to check out your "kms", for "kilometers" didn't make any sense. We foreigners learn another english!)
I wish new players read this tutorial.
Thank you startafight. I felt the same frustration so many times...

lol thanks verte im glad it helps in some measure. hopefully it helps at least one person out

Tarr · 2018-07-07 19:04:20

I actually had two different family lines die out today due to NOT expanding the berry farm. I don't know if it was based on them being new (large carrot farm in gen six with four berry bushes.) Or just people trying to get away from being berry people. Berry farms are crucial in the early generations to supporting a growing population but if used the entire time instead of a crutch to real food (Stew, Pie, Burrito.) you just kill everyone with the amount of sustaining the field requires.

The problem lies in the fact that hoes are awful presteel. I stopped even using stone hoes because they're much more effort and I just seem to have terrible ass luck with them.

Never EVER grow carrots before sheep. They give the same or less (depending if you alternate between berry then bowl of gooseberry) per tilled row. The hoe maintenance is not worth faster food time and the general abundance of soil/water. Once you have enough berry bushes transition farming to stew/burritos. Excess straw at early game can be made to use extra baskets if you aren't at the point of composting. Hell you can have sheep in early generations without a sheep pen people. Free range sheep aren't the worst thing in the world, just drag it north/west/east/south of town and remember the general area you set the domestic mouflon.

The biggest mistake people make is just eating berries their whole lives. I cannot tell you how many times I've set pies/kraut/stew next to a berry farm with bowls and told people to eat from the crock and just watched people eat the berries.

Alleria · 2018-07-07 19:34:55

Tarr wrote:

Never EVER grow carrots before sheep. They give the same or less (depending if you alternate between berry then bowl of gooseberry) per tilled row.

Wrong. Typically I'd agree, but this is a sub-optimal strat since you're not considering yum-factor. I've done the maths and yum-factor can make up 50-75% (depending on how well you've optimised temp) of your caloric intake if you know what you're doing and you're in the sheep/pie phase. This means good players only need 80-200 calories instead of the previous 150-400.

You can easily get 4+ yum factor in a pre-sheep civ, so carrots are optimal early game in most circumstances so long as people are making use of the yum-factor.

NB. I'm not advocating carrots as a sole food source. They are very valuable in maximising yum-factor.

Last edited by Alleria (2018-07-07 19:45:04)

startafight · 2018-07-07 19:58:51

Tarr wrote:

I actually had two different family lines die out today due to NOT expanding the berry farm. I don't know if it was based on them being new (large carrot farm in gen six with four berry bushes.) Or just people trying to get away from being berry people. Berry farms are crucial in the early generations to supporting a growing population but if used the entire time instead of a crutch to real food (Stew, Pie, Burrito.) you just kill everyone with the amount of sustaining the field requires.
The problem lies in the fact that hoes are awful presteel. I stopped even using stone hoes because they're much more effort and I just seem to have terrible ass luck with them.
Never EVER grow carrots before sheep. They give the same or less (depending if you alternate between berry then bowl of gooseberry) per tilled row. The hoe maintenance is not worth faster food time and the general abundance of soil/water. Once you have enough berry bushes transition farming to stew/burritos. Excess straw at early game can be made to use extra baskets if you aren't at the point of composting. Hell you can have sheep in early generations without a sheep pen people. Free range sheep aren't the worst thing in the world, just drag it north/west/east/south of town and remember the general area you set the domestic mouflon.
The biggest mistake people make is just eating berries their whole lives. I cannot tell you how many times I've set pies/kraut/stew next to a berry farm with bowls and told people to eat from the crock and just watched people eat the berries.

the problem is that the civ i was born into had 0 idea how to continue on from the berry farm. it was MASSIVE and we had no other food source! someone was trying to make pies but we didnt even have an oven! nobody was working on the pen because they didnt know how to start. the yum factor and other food stuff is a lot more advanced thinking than most the ppl in my civ were doing. they only knew how to berry and that was IT and all the smart ppl were dwindling from old age or were living away from camp till things calmed down so the civ was basically stuck in a loop of starving and rebounding

we didnt even have someone bringing rabbits or iron to make tools. and when we did finally calm down the new players started planting more berries even though we were basically out of water!

i get the balance between berries n the rest but we couldnt even begin to start other projects because the massive berry farm was using up all our man power and resources. there was no transition to refined food happening because we were in a constant water shortage because of the big ass farm.

also u need to plant at least one row of carrots in order to even get sheep, but we didnt even have a single row of carrots. only squash!

basically, i have no idea what was going on with that camp. this was the only instance where ive suicided from too many new ppl. or maybe they were all griefers. who knows the difference

WomanWizard · 2018-07-07 20:21:28

Yeah, this can be frustrating. It's not so bad when you're in one of the first gens and you can gently boss people around and tell them what to do next, but later on in civs people just run around and do the only job they know how to do. People in civs just don't communicate as well because they're so focused on their task I guess. The newbies get lost in the cracks and tend/expand the berry farm, because that's what their mom told them to do as a baby.

I've kinda enjoyed my Eve (or child of Eve runs) more lately than living in civs, because it becomes pretty obvious that most of my kids don't know what they really need and I can teach them. In two of my most recent games I had kids coming up to me asking me to make a shovel before we even had a forge. I explained to them what we needed to do to get the shovel and now they know a little more.

I'd like to add that carrots can be a good first crop because they grow fast and you might need some food while you wait for the berries. But realistically you need to make sure you have enough milkweed if you're going to be planting carrots before you start smithing, because that hoe's gonna break. A lot.

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