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#1 2018-03-15 08:17:57

SunWukong
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Registered: 2018-03-15
Posts: 10

Trolling with seed

Hi folks, just a couple of less direct trolling methods I've observed while playing:

1.  Dirt seed-jacking - you've got your carrots going gangbusters and the right balance of mouths to plots.  your tilled row is ready to go but, WTF, someone's decided to throw down with a malicious gooseberry, or worse, milkweed seed.

Maybe someone's been inspired by Johnny Appleseed or maybe they're f*cking with you.


2.  Carrot seed sabotage - this one's a bit less obvious because it's so easy to have your farm gang going all over the place, or just newbies and starving folks scrabbling desperately for nourishment.  But sometimes despite repeated warnings that you're reserving seed rows, someone keeps targeting them and leaving only one or two carrots to seed inefficiently.  They're like those horrible people at buffets that decide to grab up the crab legs and only leave behind salmonella sushi.


All in all OHOL is great fun, but also a stark lesson in man's shitty behaviour to people and environment!  I can see sociologists writing papers up one day.

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#2 2018-03-15 11:01:34

Hiker170
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Registered: 2018-03-12
Posts: 28

Re: Trolling with seed

It's like you need a noob area in town where the population is constantly growing and waning and then all the experienced players are working together on the outside to actually keep themselves and the noobs in the middle alive.

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#3 2018-03-15 11:52:30

Helperguy
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Registered: 2018-03-15
Posts: 34

Re: Trolling with seed

milkweed seed is not that bad. i have got the feeling, that everyone is only into carrots. but clothes also decrease hunger and are very important for long-term playing for further generations. for about 8 rows of carrots, you have to farm one milkweed , because there are some areas, which are completely milkweed-free

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#4 2018-03-15 12:24:34

kamikazehighland
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Registered: 2018-03-14
Posts: 4

Re: Trolling with seed

You understand that milkweed is used to make thread, which is used to make clothes to keep warm, and that adequate warmth can cut down on food needs by I think 4x, meaning you need 1/4th the food to survive.

I know everyone just really looooves carrots but you need milkweed and you also need berries.  Berries are used to make compost.  I think you're under the assumption that berries and milkweed are wasting precious fertile soil, but if you have carrots AND berries you can make compost, i.e. infinite soil.  And with milkweed and rabbits you can make clothes so you only need 1/4 the precious carrots.

Maybe those "trolls" see you have a huge carrot farm and want to make it a viable colony.

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#5 2018-03-15 14:51:21

SunWukong
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Registered: 2018-03-15
Posts: 10

Re: Trolling with seed

kamikazehighland wrote:

You understand that milkweed is used to make thread, which is used to make clothes to keep warm, and that adequate warmth can cut down on food needs by I think 4x, meaning you need 1/4th the food to survive.

I know everyone just really looooves carrots but you need milkweed and you also need berries.  Berries are used to make compost.  I think you're under the assumption that berries and milkweed are wasting precious fertile soil, but if you have carrots AND berries you can make compost, i.e. infinite soil.  And with milkweed and rabbits you can make clothes so you only need 1/4 the precious carrots.

Maybe those "trolls" see you have a huge carrot farm and want to make it a viable colony.


Agreed that milkweed and gooseberries are important, but throwing them down randomly is disastrous.  Milkweed especially can be put in a separate plot with it's own space, especially since people like to start tailoring right near and create a god awful mess with their dead rabbits.  I find domestic gooseberries to be a pain since people don't seem to bother watering them.  Way better to set up near abundant wild bushes.

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#6 2018-03-15 14:52:50

EdwardGaddfree
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Registered: 2018-03-13
Posts: 5

Re: Trolling with seed

My biggest issue is when people water the carrots and we don't have enough baskets or other storage space to put them.  Ends up resulting in large numbers of farm plots going to seed and then the ground being even more cluttered up with all of these new seeds


Find me where the wild things are

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#7 2018-03-15 14:57:11

SunWukong
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Registered: 2018-03-15
Posts: 10

Re: Trolling with seed

EdwardGaddfree wrote:

My biggest issue is when people water the carrots and we don't have enough baskets or other storage space to put them.  Ends up resulting in large numbers of farm plots going to seed and then the ground being even more cluttered up with all of these new seeds

It reminds me of that old Disney cartoon "The Sorceror's Apprentice" -- everything just snowballs and gets way out of control.

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#8 2018-03-15 15:14:13

Matok
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Registered: 2018-03-04
Posts: 66

Re: Trolling with seed

There's some unintentional trolling going on with noobs just clicking on everything to see what it does. I caught one last night who emptied a forge of its charcoal, dumped it on the ground, then took a piece and was trying to throw it on a fire.

I stopped to ask him "What are you doing?"

He said "don't know"

He then promptly dropped the charcoal on the ground and ran off to go mess with something else. I think he ultimately created an adobe base in some random spot as well.

You gotta treat noobs like they're curious children. They're going to screw things up, just like a 2 year old would. If they find a seed, they'll probably try to plant it to see what happens.

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#9 2018-03-15 18:25:26

AsianKwok
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Registered: 2018-03-14
Posts: 6

Re: Trolling with seed

SunWukong wrote:

All in all OHOL is great fun, but also a stark lesson in man's shitty behaviour to people and environment!  I can see sociologists writing papers up one day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons, no?

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#10 2018-03-15 19:34:35

jakeinmn
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Registered: 2018-03-15
Posts: 15

Re: Trolling with seed

SunWukong wrote:

Hi folks, just a couple of less direct trolling methods I've observed while playing:

1.  Dirt seed-jacking - you've got your carrots going gangbusters and the right balance of mouths to plots.  your tilled row is ready to go but, WTF, someone's decided to throw down with a malicious gooseberry, or worse, milkweed seed.

Maybe someone's been inspired by Johnny Appleseed or maybe they're f*cking with you.


2.  Carrot seed sabotage - this one's a bit less obvious because it's so easy to have your farm gang going all over the place, or just newbies and starving folks scrabbling desperately for nourishment.  But sometimes despite repeated warnings that you're reserving seed rows, someone keeps targeting them and leaving only one or two carrots to seed inefficiently.  They're like those horrible people at buffets that decide to grab up the crab legs and only leave behind salmonella sushi.


All in all OHOL is great fun, but also a stark lesson in man's shitty behaviour to people and environment!  I can see sociologists writing papers up one day.

1. Introduce Fullness. If a person has eaten to full then they get fat or have a delay before eating again. People overate to build fat to satiate hunger, but that would cause people to destroy stockpiles just for an extra minute of foraging.

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