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#1 2018-11-19 20:50:38

lionon
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Registered: 2018-11-19
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The last berry, fact or fiction

Yesterday, I have been told of not to pick the last berry from a domestic gooseberry bush, as that is supposed to give a free (or cheaper) respawn then.

True? I didn't find anything in the wiki, as if that would be a such an important fact, I suspected it to be mentioned there (like using family rabbit holes, or not shearing the last sheep)

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#2 2018-11-19 20:52:25

Booklat1
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

No, picking last berries actually helps berry farms as bushes will be able to be reset faster. In fact, reseting bushes is much better than growing more.

berry farming has changeed a lot since when th game waas first released but its been this way for a while now.

(also feel free to empty wells and ponds. Wells can also become more efficient if you build cisterns close so you can always empty wells all at once in them - to prevent well refills being reset every time water is taken)

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#3 2018-11-19 20:55:27

Tarr
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

You never leave the last berry on a domestic berry bush. They take two minutes to be resoiled and rewatered once you remove the last berry then require another eight minutes before they regrow all their berries.

The only time you leave a berry on a bush is for wild berry bushes where it is more a courtesy thing than it is a rule of thumb. This has been a myth that keeps getting passed around with each round of new players we get in game.


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#4 2018-11-19 21:05:39

lionon
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

So by itself a domestic bush would never regrow, unless it gets soiled and watered when empty?

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#5 2018-11-19 21:11:33

VioletLily
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

lionon wrote:

So by itself a domestic bush would never regrow, unless it gets soiled and watered when empty?

Yes, that is correct smile

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#6 2018-11-19 21:12:31

lionon
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

Thanks for clearing this up smile

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#7 2018-11-19 21:43:11

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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

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Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
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#8 2018-11-19 22:56:38

arkajalka
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

There is a time for not picking the last berry, it's when your village has run out of soil and will be out of soil for while. Berry bushes don't wither while they still got berries on.


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#9 2018-11-19 23:41:08

pein
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

fixing a bush needs 8 minutes to regrow
plantign new requires a seed, tilling, soil and 12 minutes


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#10 2018-11-20 00:44:34

CrazyEddie
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

arkajalka wrote:

There is a time for not picking the last berry, it's when your village has run out of soil and will be out of soil for while.

It needs to be a LONG while for that to be true.

It takes two minutes to go from Empty to Languishing, then thirty minutes to go from Languishing to Dying, and then another sixty minutes to go from Dying to Dead. You can bring it back to Vigorous from either Languishing or Dying for the same price (one soil one water), so you have 92 minutes from the time you pick the last berry until the time where you've wasted resources.

But in the meantime, if you don't pick the last berry, then when you do have soil and water close at hand you'll have to wait an extra two minutes before it can feed you (the two minutes it takes to go from Empty to Languishing). Those two minutes can be critical. So go ahead and pick the last berry, even if you don't know where the new soil and water is coming from! You've got one and a half lifetimes to solve that problem!

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#11 2018-11-20 04:37:37

Auner
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

Pick that last berry.

Wild Berry == will replenish itself
Domestic Berry== It will not.

therefore: pick it at home, not in the wild.

However- if you are the last one in town and you need a bowl of berries before you abandon ship-- do leave one berry there to help a a possible eve out. Leaving one berry on the tree will insure it wont die out


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#12 2018-11-20 04:38:10

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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

I was just told by a vet today to never take the last berry, because it makes them start dying. A different vet contradicted that. They argued for a bit, then walked away. It was a good use of everyone's time.

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#13 2018-11-20 04:43:25

CrazyEddie
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

Truth wrote:

I was just told by a vet today to never take the last berry, because it makes them start dying.

Not every vet has the sense that God gave a burdock root.

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#14 2018-11-20 08:48:01

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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

Also, there are plenty of players who call themselves vets, but don't know anything - you see them bouncing next to many items as they try and figure out how to do things. Offering to help explain only makes them say, "I know." before running off.
New players scared of admitting that if they say they are new, they'll be abandoned I reckon.


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#15 2018-11-20 19:30:05

Psykout
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Re: The last berry, fact or fiction

You leave a berry on a wild bush in case someone needs it to save their life. If you feel you need it, ask yourself, if I don't eat that berry am I 100% going to die? Also I commonly see new Eve's eating all the food close by, leaving nothing left in the radius kids can work in with their small hunger bars. This in my book is a no-no and is similar to cleaning a bush that does not need to be cleaned out at the moment. If possible fill up far from camp before coming back in, so you aren't eating all the food on your way in or when you get home.

The confusing thing is this logic is for Wild bushes and not domestic. Bush looks the same but how you manage them is completely different, which new players get confused on. The myth that wild berry bushes don't regrow if cleaned out, or regrow faster if not cleaned, was started on purpose because it was the only way to stop new players from effectively drowning each other by eating the last berries when it wasn't necessary for survival.

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