Which is the best pie?

nocatolie · 2018-03-21 20:05:27

so... i was looking at the crafting list and saw many kind of pie. which pie is the best to make? or are they the same?
Berry Pie
Carrot Pie
Rabbit Pie
Berry Rabbit Pie
Berry Carrot Pie
Rabbit Carrot Pie
Berry Carrot Rabbit Pie

Last edited by nocatolie (2018-03-21 20:19:11)

InSpace · 2018-03-21 20:23:01

carrot lowest stats, all three highest stats.

Babsy · 2018-03-21 20:28:07

Rabbit Carrot Pie is recommended because berries are used to make compost (needed to keep the farms running).

draequine · 2018-03-21 20:48:41

I'd recommend rabbit pie because rabbit carrot pie is kind of overkill, and I consider rabbit berry carrot pie a killing offence for it's sheer decadence.

Uncle Gus · 2018-03-21 23:56:39

Rabbit carrot pie is okay because carrots are plentiful, at least compared to rabbits, so you may as well be getting extra benefit from them if they're available.

ned · 2018-03-22 00:44:47

Rabbit berry carrot pie is overkill. You actually waste food making these, because each bite provides 18 food plus 3 bonus = 21 total food, while the max you can be fed is 19 food at one time. Rabbit carrot pie (16+3) takes perfect advantage of this.

EmmyGamba · 2018-03-22 03:09:00

the best pie is baby pie

Joriom · 2018-03-22 05:16:16

EmmyGamba wrote:

the best pie is baby pie

jasonrohrer 03/13/2018 wrote:

Yes... bury it!
Bearskin sandwich
with boards as bread.

jasonrohrer 03/10/2018 wrote:

Human pies?

Thexus · 2018-03-22 06:10:45

well, rabbit carrot berry is the best/food
rabbit carrot is the best/food/time/effort
rabbit is also good, if you don't have much carrots
carrot pies are a waste of wheat, which is a waste of soil

Mugatu86 · 2018-03-22 15:48:15

Legend

PIE: The name of the cooked pie
FPS: Amount of Food regenerated per serving
FPP: Amount of Food regenerated per pie (4 servings)

Pie Stats

PIE: Carrot
FPS: 5
FPP: 20

PIE: Berry
FPS: 10
FPP: 40

PIE: Rabbit
FPS: 12
FPP: 48

PIE: Berry Carrot
FPS: 13
FPP: 52

PIE: Rabbit Carrot
FPS: 16
FPP: 64

PIE: Berry Rabbit
FPS: 16
FPP: 64

PIE: Berry Carrot Rabbit
FPS: 18
FPP: 72

Final thoughts

Best is Carrot Rabbit, followed by Rabbit, and finally Carrot (to save space), with worst being Berry since it requires 6 berries per pie.

Last edited by Mugatu86 (2018-03-22 15:49:10)

Matok · 2018-03-22 17:32:39

Mugatu86,

You may want to include the +3 bonus food into your amounts. Your list makes the Berry Carrot Rabbit pie appear like the best at 18 per slice, but since you get +3 extra every time you eat anything, it's actually 21 per slice and an adult can only possibly get 19 from eating anything (max 20 food pips on your bar, and you have to eat when you're at 1 left or you starve).

This makes the food per serving of Berry Carrot Rabbit pie effectively 19, same as both the Berry Rabbit and Carrot Rabbit Pie, which means it isn't worth making.

Also, Carrot Rabbit is only worth it for full grown adults and only if you wait until you have just 1 food pip left, otherwise it is a waste. Carrot Pie is a better choice for children and elderly if you have to pick one or the other.

ned · 2018-03-23 03:24:15

Matok wrote:

Mugatu86,
You may want to include the +3 bonus food into your amounts. Your list makes the Berry Carrot Rabbit pie appear like the best at 18 per slice, but since you get +3 extra every time you eat anything, it's actually 21 per slice and an adult can only possibly get 19 from eating anything (max 20 food pips on your bar, and you have to eat when you're at 1 left or you starve).
This makes the food per serving of Berry Carrot Rabbit pie effectively 19, same as both the Berry Rabbit and Carrot Rabbit Pie, which means it isn't worth making.
Also, Carrot Rabbit is only worth it for full grown adults and only if you wait until you have just 1 food pip left, otherwise it is a waste. Carrot Pie is a better choice for children and elderly if you have to pick one or the other.

The couple of food pips wasted in the carrot rabbit pie by not waiting until starvation is a pittance compared to the bonus you get from incorporating a rabbit into a carrot pie. A rabbit alone gives you 11, and since a carrot pie is 8 per serving, you'd have to waste almost two whole servings of that carrot rabbit pie in order to lose that 33 extra food you gained.

Carrot rabbit pie is the best. No argument. Carrot pie can be quick and easy, sure, but the soil demands make it pretty unsustainable. Just have kids work the fields until they're old.

NBonaparte_BG · 2018-03-23 09:29:16

Welp, as wot @Sammoh(Babsy) said, berries are more likely to be used for compost making, because its really hard to get a full gooseberry tree, and farms needs to as big as possible for the expanding population in the next generations. Because of the recent updates that made gooseberries more valuable now,(full berries to make compost pile instead of 4) berries worth as gold and milkweed stalk, so u pretty much want to keep those full ones, and rather to starve to death than eating all of them, carrot rabbit pie is the best, if u are near a desert biome, where u can get the resources of carrots and rabbits, this will be useful, especially because the meat and vegetable are balanced, so u won't get that much obesity. LOL

Matok · 2018-03-23 15:09:17

ned wrote:

The couple of food pips wasted in the carrot rabbit pie by not waiting until starvation is a pittance compared to the bonus you get from incorporating a rabbit into a carrot pie. A rabbit alone gives you 11, and since a carrot pie is 8 per serving, you'd have to waste almost two whole servings of that carrot rabbit pie in order to lose that 33 extra food you gained.
Carrot rabbit pie is the best. No argument. Carrot pie can be quick and easy, sure, but the soil demands make it pretty unsustainable. Just have kids work the fields until they're old.

I actually looked at it from the opposite way around, meaning you're adding a carrot to a rabbit pie.

In that case, adding the carrot only increases the pie's overall value by 16 over what a rabbit pie gives you. If you aren't going to eat the slices when you're at 1 pip left, then the effect of adding the carrot is diminished. If it reaches the point that adding the carrot is effectively less than 8 food due to inefficient eating of the pie slices, then you wasted the carrot.

Rabbit Pie is 60 food total
Carrot Rabbit Pie is 76 total
Carrot is 8 food total

Rabbit Pie and Carrot eaten separately are 68 food total.
Carrot Rabbit Pie is 76 food, which is only 8 more.

But let's say you eat slices of the Carrot Rabbit Pie early. If you always eat when you see the 'starving' thing pop up, which shows up when you have 3 food pips left, you're getting effectively 17 food per slice. That's 17 x 4 = 68. Exactly the same as eating a Rabbit Pie and Carrot separately. Any more inefficient than that and you're wasting food.

You should always make rabbits into pies rather than cooking them over a campfire no questions asked. The increase in food value from 11 to 60 is quite amazing. However, adding a carrot to the mix is only effective if you eat the pie efficiently.

I tend to not bother with the carrot. As soon as you start losing food pips going into old age, the efficiency starts to drop. Rabbit pies are still alright until you drop below 16 food pips.

To be honest I feel like we need 25 food pips to fix this weirdness with the pies. Why shouldn't the one that takes the most ingredients be the best to make? Did Jason just put it in to be a troll pie and see how many people waste food on it?

KRN · 2018-03-23 17:23:39

Matok wrote:

Why shouldn't the one that takes the most ingredients be the best to make? Did Jason just put it in to be a troll pie and see how many people waste food on it?

I rather think (looking at his previous games) that he is quite "new" to this kind of size/scale of games, soo he doesnt know (for exaple) to put numbers into things like Excell, and ballance them out properly (and shape them) how he wants them to be. Rather then just randomly typing them in from head while adding things into the game XD

draequine · 2018-03-23 21:05:20

KRN wrote:

I rather think (looking at his previous games) that he is quite "new" to this kind of size/scale of games, soo he doesnt know (for exaple) to put numbers into things like Excell, and ballance them out properly (and shape them) how he wants them to be. Rather then just randomly typing them in from head while adding things into the game XD

I think it works well with the theme of progression and teaching in this game. Some actions, craftables , systems are either challenges you need to overcome, learn about, avoid, or wait til they are more developed to be practical.

Its about learning overtime that just because you can put everything in the pie doesn't mean you shouldn't, or just because wool takes so much tech to make doesn't mean its warmer to wear.

These kinds of pies are really just a decadent status symbol to have in bourgeoisie full wool villages before their snob town crumbles around its ears.

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