Questions for Townies

Bob 101 · 2019-04-01 02:15:26

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How do you usually react to being murdered?

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

Do you ever get tired of farming?

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

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DestinyCall · 2019-04-01 02:23:58

Can we please stop asking people to reveal personal information on-line? It is unwise.

antking:]# · 2019-04-01 02:25:53

DestinyCall wrote:

Can we please stop asking people to reveal personal information on-line? It is unwise.

I second that! now we have to vote! how exiting!

Bob 101 · 2019-04-01 02:25:53

DestinyCall wrote:

Can we please stop asking people to reveal personal information on-line? It is unwise.

It is your choice to answer, This is mostly just a parody of another thread.

You can skip the first 3, Idc.

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pein · 2019-04-01 07:09:46

do strawpoll, more simple and is anonymous

Léonard · 2019-04-01 08:35:22

I actually kind of liked your post, the questions you ask can be interesting and might be worth talking about.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

Oh boy. Really now?
Well.. What's the point of playing the game at all if towns inevitably die anyways?
What's the point of living if everybody dies? Wait, don't tell me you're a serial killer in real life too and justify your murders by calling yourself an "agent of chaos".
Now where have I seen this before..

I know you're part of the "I kill big towns to help small Eve towns" bandwagon.

Bob 101 wrote:

Killing old towns redirects babies to greener pastures.

If that's your point for griefing, then I turn the same question to you.
Knowing Eve towns will inevitably die, why do you bother trying to help them in the first place by killing other towns?
Do you get what the problem is with this question?
Then, perhaps you might shift the argument into "well, if it's ultimately pointless, it's just to spice things up, you know".
Or you might rationalize it into "well there will always be griefers anyways, might as well join in on the fun" (as you have done in the past).
Too often do I see griefers try to sell me griefing as part of the game.
They say it's inevitable. And then get surprised when it turns out people dislike them.

This goes back to the problem of "what's the point"?
What's the point of playing if there are griefers in the game?
The piece that you're missing in order to see the bigger picture is exactly this.
"What's the point?" Having such a nihilistic view of things is not healthy nor is it useful.
The real answer is "there is no point". It's "the point is whatever you make it out to be".
It's what you want it to be.
And that's why people dislike griefers.

I recently saw someone actually make this point properly.
It was something along the lines of "I have no problem in playing the game knowing full well no towns last forever but playing the game while actively worrying about griefers is just not fun".
Yes. People KNOW everything they do will inevitably be useless and fall to dust.
But despite this fact, people live their lives. They make up their own goals. Maybe it's building/advancing technology. Maybe it's making sure your lineage survives in the present.
And griefers come and spit in their faces while trying to dictate to them what they should be doing and how they should enjoy playing this game.
They try to impose their nihilistic views on you. They want nothing to matter.
That's why we dislike griefers.

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you ever get tired of farming?

Absolutely. It is pretty much the most boring part of this game and sadly a big necessity.
Farming is the most repetitive activity out of all things. It is in DESPERATE NEED of variation in my opinion.
I'd say I farm in only about 1/8th of my lives.
I'm the builder type. I enjoy much more building things and progressing in technology.
Doing this makes the game that much more enjoyable to me as it's much more varied.
Towns don't need the exact same thing over and over again and everytime like they do for watering the berries or replanting the carrots...

I wonder if you have personally tried to build something complex like an engine or a radio. Or an oil rig.
You seem like an experienced player but even some veterans on here continuously admit how they've never tried x and y so you never know.
If you haven't I definitely recommend it.

Bob 101 wrote:

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

Yes. When people try to argue that I should be forced to play out lives I don't want to play.
It's usually an argument made against the /die command along the lines of "it hurts the Eve towns too much".
If I wasn't interested in helping your camp in the first place, forcing me to stay in it will do you no good.
If people who argue for such a thing ever get their way, then I will happily grief their precious Eve camps.
I mean, I'm literally being forced to play against my will here, the only non-boring thing left to do would be to start killing to protest.
I might as well take the town down with me to ensure I don't run into the same issue again.

You yourself argue that you started griefing because the game became stale for you.
Well, imagine if you were forced to play out every single lives. How boring.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

There are two ways to interpret your question.
One is what I think about your playstyle specifically.
This would be because most griefers (you included) state that they don't grief every single lives and don't dedicate every single lives to griefing.
I don't really have an opinion on such a thing. I don't really get why griefers keep stating this over and over again.
It's almost like you want validation in some way.
It's not because you play nice in some lives that all of the sudden it's okay to grief in others in my book. This doesn't change people's opinion at all.
It doesn't change anything. It doesn't somehow "repair" the damage you've done in previous lives. It doesn't "absolve" you in any way.

The other interpretation I have of this is people who do nice things in a life but then later decide to grief in that same life.
The same logic applies here too.
It's not because you made a bunch of compost or made a bunch of pies which I even might have eaten that all of the sudden it's okay for you to murder that one guy who seemed a bit rude to you.
Yeah, no. Still griefing.
You're not entitled to anything. Doing a service doesn't grant you special powers.
Not in my opinion anyways.

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

No. No offence but I consider this a dumb question.
If I wasn't going to play in a certain town in the first place, do you really think forcing me to stay would change ANYTHING?
That would be perfectly pointless. I intended to not play in that town in the first place, why should I force myself to stay alive if I'm not even going to do anything there anyways?

As a counter-argument, you might say that people using /die has side-effects/consequences.
Such as not resetting the mother's cooldown.
Of course I don't condone people who purposefully do that.
I always make sure to wait for my mom to pick me up when I decide to try my luck elsewhere so that she may have another baby.
At times you don't have a choice however, if my mom doesn't want to pick me up at all or is running away from me, I'm left with no other choice.

Another counter-argument might be that as the only young female in your lineage I should stay to make sure your lineage survives.
But that's another discussion altogether.
If I'm born as your only surviving daughter and I decide I don't want to play in this town and you want me to stay despite that, then you're basically expecting me to stand there and be your baby tool while I do nothing and bore myself to death.
You're actually the one being selfish there. You're asking me to comply to your demands despite what I might feel about them.
If your reply to that is that it's me who's being selfish then we get into another kind of problem.
Saying I'm the one who's selfish in this case implies it's my fault, my bad if your lineage dies.
Which it clearly is not. And it's not because:
The sex is determined at birth, based completely on random chance, with a 50/50 chance at either sex.
As such it is impartial. It is not my fault if I'm born as your last surviving daughter.
It's no one's fault. I don't get to decide my sex. No one does.
This is why people hate being called Hope so much. It's fundamentally a burden.
You're trying to force a burden on someone who has nothing to do with what's happening to you and your lineage.
And you expect them to carry this burden for their entire lives.
It's not my fault! What if I was born as a boy instead? Would you have been okay with me dying? That's not fair!

ruanna · 2019-04-01 10:36:19

I'm answering these genuinely because I think you believe that what you do is somewhat acceptable, if a little naughty. I'm trying to explain why I don't feel the same way.

Age: over 30
Country: in asia

Bob 101 wrote:

How do you usually react to being murdered?

Random murder - curse the person, run around telling others who killed me. Move on to the next life.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

What's the point of any video game? I enjoy building and crafting games. I enjoy games which are hard to learn and master, and spend a lot of time reading forums/wikis/guides to learn to play well. I don't play any shooting games, or games that have combat (exception: games like rimworld and dwarf fortress, but the micro managing of combat doesn't interest me. Building traps is ok. Games like don't starve have too much combat and not enough camp building. Games like Minecraft were too scary with the dark and monsters, also boring because its mostly just digging and stacking shit up. Games like WoW also fun because of exploration and levelling up.) I don't play for conflict. I enjoy building and creating and managing in games.

Griefers purposely set out to ruin the time I put into something. I feel personally affected and upset if someone destroys something I created. It's like I planted a plant and it dies, I'm sad. If you stepped on my plant to kill it and said 'haha it's gonna die someday anyway" I would be angry at you.

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you ever get tired of farming?

Yes, I go do something else, like collect kindling, or make food, or tell stories to babies. If I'm tired of all that I quit the game and go watch Netflix.

Bob 101 wrote:

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

No.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

Doing a good deed doesn't mean you have some allowance to do bad deeds. If you are a doctor and save 10 lives it doesn't mean you have the right to take 1 life.

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

No. I do feel guilty enough to stay in a town I don't like when Im the only girl and they beg me too, when I would have otherwise suicided.

Potjeh · 2019-04-01 10:43:53

How do you usually react to being murdered?
- Go play something else.

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?
- I don't understand the question.

Do you ever get tired of farming?
- Yeah.

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?
- No.

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?
- The world would still be a better place if you got hit by a bus IRL.

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?
- No.

Starknight_One · 2019-04-01 12:27:13

Bob 101 wrote:

Age
Country
Race

mid-50s/USA/Human

How do you usually react to being murdered?

I die, generally. Unless there's someone around and supplies to heal me.

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

What's the point of eating if you're just going to get hungry again later?

Do you ever get tired of farming?

I love it! I'm having spam, spam, spam, spam... sorry, wrong bit. Yes, I get tired of farming. But I get more tired of not eating.

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

Ha. Ha. Muah-ha-ha. MUAHH-HAHA-HA-HA!

I run tabletop RPGs. This game offers very tame evil over what I unleash on my players. But yes, occasionally.

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

That you've proven that the system can be gamed to minimize time in DT for recidivist griefers. Congratulations.

You're not being noble during those lives in which you don't grief, you're being self-serving to avoid a justified exile. The people who don't grief in the first place, especially the ones that keep coming back after they've been repeatedly griefed? They're the noble ones.

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

No. It's a personal choice. Griefing is imposed on you from outside. Forcing someone to stay in a situation they don't want would be griefing, just like locking people inside a building (with or without angry pit bull).

Bob 101 · 2019-04-01 12:46:38

Léonard wrote:

I actually kind of liked your post, the questions you ask can be interesting and might be worth talking about.
Bob 101 wrote:
What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?
Oh boy. Really now?
Well.. What's the point of playing the game at all if towns inevitably die anyways?
What's the point of living if everybody dies? Wait, don't tell me you're a serial killer in real life too and justify your murders by calling yourself an "agent of chaos".
Now where have I seen this before..
I know you're part of the "I kill big towns to help small Eve towns" bandwagon.
Bob 101 wrote:
Killing old towns redirects babies to greener pastures.
If that's your point for griefing, then I turn the same question to you.
Knowing Eve towns will inevitably die, why do you bother trying to help them in the first place by killing other towns?
Do you get what the problem is with this question?
Then, perhaps you might shift the argument into "well, if it's ultimately pointless, it's just to spice things up, you know".
Or you might rationalize it into "well there will always be griefers anyways, might as well join in on the fun" (as you have done in the past).
Too often do I see griefers try to sell me griefing as part of the game.
They say it's inevitable. And then get surprised when it turns out people dislike them.
This goes back to the problem of "what's the point"?
What's the point of playing if there are griefers in the game?
The piece that you're missing in order to see the bigger picture is exactly this.
"What's the point?" Having such a nihilistic view of things is not healthy nor is it useful.
The real answer is "there is no point". It's "the point is whatever you make it out to be".
It's what you want it to be.
And that's why people dislike griefers.
I recently saw someone actually make this point properly.
It was something along the lines of "I have no problem in playing the game knowing full well no towns last forever but playing the game while actively worrying about griefers is just not fun".
Yes. People KNOW everything they do will inevitably be useless and fall to dust.
But despite this fact, people live their lives. They make up their own goals. Maybe it's building/advancing technology. Maybe it's making sure your lineage survives in the present.
And griefers come and spit in their faces while trying to dictate to them what they should be doing and how they should enjoy playing this game.
They try to impose their nihilistic views on you. They want nothing to matter.
That's why we dislike griefers.
Bob 101 wrote:
Do you ever get tired of farming?
Absolutely. It is pretty much the most boring part of this game and sadly a big necessity.
Farming is the most repetitive activity out of all things. It is in DESPERATE NEED of variation in my opinion.
I'd say I farm in only about 1/8th of my lives.
I'm the builder type. I enjoy much more building things and progressing in technology.
Doing this makes the game that much more enjoyable to me as it's much more varied.
Towns don't need the exact same thing over and over again and everytime like they do for watering the berries or replanting the carrots...
I wonder if you have personally tried to build something complex like an engine or a radio. Or an oil rig.
You seem like an experienced player but even some veterans on here continuously admit how they've never tried x and y so you never know.
If you haven't I definitely recommend it.
Bob 101 wrote:
Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?
Yes. When people try to argue that I should be forced to play out lives I don't want to play.
It's usually an argument made against the /die command along the lines of "it hurts the Eve towns too much".
If I wasn't interested in helping your camp in the first place, forcing me to stay in it will do you no good.
If people who argue for such a thing ever get their way, then I will happily grief their precious Eve camps.
I mean, I'm literally being forced to play against my will here, the only non-boring thing left to do would be to start killing to protest.
I might as well take the town down with me to ensure I don't run into the same issue again.
You yourself argue that you started griefing because the game became stale for you.
Well, imagine if you were forced to play out every single lives. How boring.
Bob 101 wrote:
What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?
There are two ways to interpret your question.
One is what I think about your playstyle specifically.
This would be because most griefers (you included) state that they don't grief every single lives and don't dedicate every single lives to griefing.
I don't really have an opinion on such a thing. I don't really get why griefers keep stating this over and over again.
It's almost like you want validation in some way.
It's not because you play nice in some lives that all of the sudden it's okay to grief in others in my book. This doesn't change people's opinion at all.
It doesn't change anything. It doesn't somehow "repair" the damage you've done in previous lives. It doesn't "absolve" you in any way.
The other interpretation I have of this is people who do nice things in a life but then later decide to grief in that same life.
The same logic applies here too.
It's not because you made a bunch of compost or made a bunch of pies which I even might have eaten that all of the sudden it's okay for you to murder that one guy who seemed a bit rude to you.
Yeah, no. Still griefing.
You're not entitled to anything. Doing a service doesn't grant you special powers.
Not in my opinion anyways.
Bob 101 wrote:
Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?
No. No offence but I consider this a dumb question.
If I wasn't going to play in a certain town in the first place, do you really think forcing me to stay would change ANYTHING?
That would be perfectly pointless. I intended to not play in that town in the first place, why should I force myself to stay alive if I'm not even going to do anything there anyways?
As a counter-argument, you might say that people using /die has side-effects/consequences.
Such as not resetting the mother's cooldown.
Of course I don't condone people who purposefully do that.
I always make sure to wait for my mom to pick me up when I decide to try my luck elsewhere so that she may have another baby.
At times you don't have a choice however, if my mom doesn't want to pick me up at all or is running away from me, I'm left with no other choice.
Another counter-argument might be that as the only young female in your lineage I should stay to make sure your lineage survives.
But that's another discussion altogether.
If I'm born as your only surviving daughter and I decide I don't want to play in this town and you want me to stay despite that, then you're basically expecting me to stand there and be your baby tool while I do nothing and bore myself to death.
You're actually the one being selfish there. You're asking me to comply to your demands despite what I might feel about them.
If your reply to that is that it's me who's being selfish then we get into another kind of problem.
Saying I'm the one who's selfish in this case implies it's my fault, my bad if your lineage dies.
Which it clearly is not. And it's not because:
The sex is determined at birth, based completely on random chance, with a 50/50 chance at either sex.
As such it is impartial. It is not my fault if I'm born as your last surviving daughter.
It's no one's fault. I don't get to decide my sex. No one does.
This is why people hate being called Hope so much. It's fundamentally a burden.
You're trying to force a burden on someone who has nothing to do with what's happening to you and your lineage.
And you expect them to carry this burden for their entire lives.
It's not my fault! What if I was born as a boy instead? Would you have been okay with me dying? That's not fair!

I'm sorry but I'm not reading all that. Can you maybe get to the point rather then writing me a novel.

Bob 101 · 2019-04-01 12:47:48

I appreciate everybody who answered even if they mostly came to insult me.

It dosnt bother me that you think what I do is wrong. People are right that I should stop trying to explain it as non-griefers do not understand.

I have noticed that alot of my fellow griefers also play normally, However Townies have ever griefed. I challenge the goody two shoes here to be evil for at least one life. It will at the very least help you learn how griefers think and operate.

It's all just fun and games, You won't goto hell for taking a few virtual lives.

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Potjeh · 2019-04-01 14:37:52

r/iamverysmart

Guppy · 2019-04-01 14:45:42

Says alot about you if you ask people for their imput but are too entitled to read what they respond, lol

Tea · 2019-04-01 14:55:20

o How do you usually react to being murdered?

Recently, the first thing I do when I am born, is to check where the pads are or make some. That helped me numerous times when I got stabbed and I haven't died that way for a long time now. But if I get killed and no one can heal me, I tell everyone who it was, wish them good luck and enjoying the next life.

o What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

Why not ? Why bother making rooms, plant trees, making an Arena or a church when one day that town will be forgotten and disappear ? Because it's fun. We all know that the point of this game is that nothing will last forever. So why not protect a town to enjoy it a little bit longer ?

o Do you ever get tired of farming?

Hell yea ! Especially when people come and ruin it or take stuff and don't want to help you to fix it. But I like to combine farming with something else, like feeding the sheep or making compost or even making burritos. Trying out new designs. If I'm completely bored of it, I'll do something else.

o Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

Many times. Every time when I get so frustrated at a town's IQ. But also when I'm in big towns and there is everything there and I see a lot of idle townspeople. That's when I have an idea in my head, to start a little bit of drama. To give them something exciting in their boring big city. I wouldn't hide any pads, needles and weapons and wouldn't kill any fertile female.
But I've never done it and don't think I will ever do it. Even if the idea is there.

o What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

Helpful ? How is griefing helpful ? ^^

If you are griefing in a smaller town who are still trying to survive, shame on you. If you are griefing in a bigger town however and are trying to add a little bit of drama in the town, not trying to kill everyone or hiding the most important things then yea go ahead. I'd gladly try to find you, kill you and congratulate you on your mission.

I had once a guy who kept stealing kids and killing old people. Not many of the kids tried to jump out of his arms, so he just did the town a favor if that kid is not smart enough to save itself. It took me a while but eventually I killed him. He said something like "You got me, they made me do it", still playing his role. I answered that he was very good but that his mission had to come to an end and the town had to recover. We had a nice chat.

Later on people were more excited to live in a town that just had defeated a griefer. They told their kids and Grand-kids the story telling them to curse him later on.

So yea if you are that kind of griefer, I don't mind ^^ Sometimes a little bit of drama is needed. But not to the point killing of a whole town.

o Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

I consider it annoying and rude when people die the moment they are born. If they die later on, after they have had a look at the town, that's okay. At least say your good byes and strip naked before you run into the wild.

MultiLife · 2019-04-01 15:14:36

Bob 101 wrote:

Age
Country
Race

- 25
- A country in northern Europe
- Caucasian

Bob 101 wrote:

How do you usually react to being murdered?

In-game: I curse the person if I am more than 50% sure they didn't do it accidentally. I usually wait for their reactions to check and then start running and spreading the name if I deem them deserving of curses.
IRL: I sigh in disappointment, wonder briefly why, think about things left undone in this life and then move to next life or go to play another game.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's the point of protecting if towns die on there own?

Their own*
Protecting against killers and griefers you mean, or...? I protect people's gaming sessions (lives); if someone committed to stay in a town to live in it to develop it, I support that, and would protect their life so they can continue their gaming session until the game cuts it short. I do not want players cutting other players' sessions short for their own amusement, against the victim's will. I just want to keep people who don't want to be killed out of the harm's way. I don't want their mood, in-game environments or projects to be ruined during their gaming session. I want them to be able to play in peace with me.

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you ever get tired of farming?

Yeah, glad this game isn't only about farming. But I enjoy simple things. Life is complex and stressful for me, so simple tasks and simple interactions are nice variation in my weeks. OHOL's in-game environment adds a good amount of eustress (PvE), in-game griefers add a bad amount of distress (PvP).

Bob 101 wrote:

Have you ever been tempted by the darkside even if just for a moment?

No. There is nothing for me. "Dark side" sparks 0 emotion for me except disappointment.

Bob 101 wrote:

What's your opinion on griefers who are helpful in some lives?

Never seen a helpful griefer. The definition is that they hinder their teammates, and that never helps.
Maybe you hint at things like killing people during overpopulation? Why not let the famine kill them? Or why not just leave the place?

Bob 101 wrote:

Do you consider suiciding to be a form of griefing as it can kill towns?

No. I rather have a suiciding baby as my last child than have her stay and ruin the place and stab her babies. And nobody should stay in a life against their will.

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